Hi All -- Greetings from ByWater Solutions! I hope everyone had a great weekend and mother’s day. I love the passion I have seen on this post over the past few days. Although we are relatively new in the community we are completely dedicated to Koha and wanted to weigh in on the conversation. In regards to the pay-for-support listing page; I vote that the companies be listed by location, which can either be implemented by a linkable map or just listed by region. However, I also truly believe that this should not be solely decided by the vendors and developers of Koha, but by the users as well. They are the ones whom are going through the arduous task of deciding which company, if any, to choose to lead them through the task of migrating to a new ILS. Another reason for this belief is that as per human nature, whomever controls that page will have self (company)- interest in mind, whether intended or not. I also have a question about the Koha-manage list. What are the qualifications to be on this list? I've sent several requests to join, to no avail, and I have never received an answer as to why? My company is listed as a pay-for-support option and we are heavily invested in supporting the community. To me, having exclusivity to a list where many of the decisions being made for the community are done seems against the whole community/ open-source ideal. For example, the discussion of how to list the pay-for-support companies was completed and decided on that chain and then changed on the community koha.org website. The escalation surrounding this issue may have been prevented if all of the members in the community, some of whom this directly affected, were allowed to be part of the discussion. I think many of us in the Koha community will be interested to see if any of these discussions, suggestions and ideas actually yield any results. As of right now it seems to be self-serving, as we have yet to see any changes. Every community feels growing pains when it comes to evolution and change, but only the successful ones foster open discussion, hold each member in esteem, and have leaders who can chose the path of humility when change is needed. I sincerely hope we can take that path and look back at the issues we have now, and will have in the future, as inevitable speed bumps on the road to success. ByWater Solutions has not yet had the opportunity to contribute major developments or groundbreaking answers to problems in the community, but I hope my comments will still be taken seriously regardless. Thanks, merci, gracias, tēnā rawa atu koutou. -Brendan --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brendan A. Gallagher ByWater Solutions CEO, Director of Innovation Support and Consulting for Open Source Software Installation, Data Migration, Training, Customization, Hosting, Complete Support Packages Headquarters: Santa Barbara, CA - Office: West Haven, CT Phone # (203)823-5847 http://bywatersolutions.com info@bywatersolutions.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------