Google Talk via FaceBook for KUDOS meetings
As many of you know, I've been looking for a way to have online KUDOS chat meetings via FaceBook. Well, we tried Google Talk in the FaceBook application. It's very cumbersome and will not work for online chat meetings. However, we could utilize Google Talk via Google. Google Talk is great--you can have either a chat with one person or a group. How's it work? All you need to do is: a. Have a google acct. b. Have an email acct. Then, if any of us wants to talk/chat realtime we can hook up via Google Talk. What do you think? Other options are: a. building a moodle with chat function. (Moodle has a chat function built in.) b. email via the Koha list or FaceBook c. meet in person d. other ideas? Deb -- Deb Bergeron <mailto:bergeron@macalester.edu> System Admin: User Support CLIC Consortium <http://clic.edu> 1619 Dayton Avenue, Suite 204A Saint Paul, MN 55104 O:*651.644.3878* C:*651.487.7609* F:651.644.6258
Deb Bergeron wrote:
d. other ideas?
irc cheers rickw -- _________________________________ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Say what you will about the miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile. -- Howard W Campbell in Kurt Vonnegut Jr's "Mother Night"
Hi Deb, Information on the Koha IRC channel can be found here: http://www.koha.org/community/irc.html Cheers, Russel On 2/4/08, Rick Welykochy <rick@praxis.com.au> wrote:
Deb Bergeron wrote:
d. other ideas?
irc
cheers rickw
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Russel, Yes, I thought of the IRC also, but didn't want to intrude upon the developers. I, of course thought of that AFTER I sent the message, so thanks for being so swift with your suggestion. Deb Russel Garlick wrote:
Hi Deb,
Information on the Koha IRC channel can be found here:
http://www.koha.org/community/irc.html
Cheers, Russel
On 2/4/08, Rick Welykochy <rick@praxis.com.au> wrote:
Deb Bergeron wrote:
d. other ideas?
irc
cheers rickw
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irc works for me. I have Google email, so that would work too. I've not had cause to use it before. Cheers Rosalie On Feb 4, 2008 1:34 PM, Rick Welykochy <rick@praxis.com.au> wrote:
Deb Bergeron wrote:
d. other ideas?
irc
cheers rickw
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Deb Bergeron <bergeron@macalester.edu> wrote: [...]
utilize Google Talk via Google. Google Talk is great--you can have either a chat with one person or a group. How's it work?
All you need to do is: a. Have a google acct. b. Have an email acct.
Erm, isn't Google Talk just a branded version of Jabber/XMPP? So, there is no need to give Google your personal details and you can use any Jabber server. Even your own. I'm mjr at jabber.ttllp.co.uk and I can set up group conferences if anyone wants (but why not just use the current #koha IRC?). Why doesn't KUDOS's name mention that it's Free Software? Hope that helps, -- MJ Ray http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html tel:+44-844-4437-237 - Webmaster-developer, statistician, sysadmin, online shop builder, consumer and workers co-operative member http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ - Writing on koha, debian, sat TV, Kewstoke http://mjr.towers.org.uk/
Moodle might be a very reasonable option. I have had some experience with this, and it seems to work well. The difficulty would be administrating it - this takes time. I cannot recall, however, how well their chat application works. That being said, it would be an appropriate partnership given that Moodle is to educational software what Koha is to library software. Moodle would also enable a document repository and forum for ongoing conversation. It would establish a Koha community. Van Preparing the next generation of servant leaders for great commission living <http://www.nbbc.edu> Van Carpenter Director of Library Services, Bible Faculty Northland Baptist Bible College W10085 Pike Plains Road Dunbar, WI 54119 <http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=W10085+Pike+Plains+Road& csz=Dunbar%2C+WI++54119&country=us> vcarpenter@nbbc.edu <mailto:vcarpenter@nbbc.edu> http://www.synodos.net <http://www.synodos.net> tel: 715-324-6900 x5502 <http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?src=jj_signature&To=715-324-6900+x55 02&Email=vcarpenter@nbbc.edu> Always have my latest info <https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=47244882147&v0=483817&k0=1772553082&src= client_sig_212_1_card_join&invite=1> Want a signature like this? <http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig> From: Deb Bergeron [mailto:bergeron@macalester.edu] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 5:48 PM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz; kudos-list@ccfls.org Subject: [KUDOS] Google Talk via FaceBook for KUDOS meetings As many of you know, I've been looking for a way to have online KUDOS chat meetings via FaceBook. Well, we tried Google Talk in the FaceBook application. It's very cumbersome and will not work for online chat meetings. However, we could utilize Google Talk via Google. Google Talk is great--you can have either a chat with one person or a group. How's it work? All you need to do is: a. Have a google acct. b. Have an email acct. Then, if any of us wants to talk/chat realtime we can hook up via Google Talk. What do you think? Other options are: a. building a moodle with chat function. (Moodle has a chat function built in.) b. email via the Koha list or FaceBook c. meet in person d. other ideas? Deb -- Deb Bergeron <mailto:bergeron@macalester.edu> System Admin: User Support CLIC Consortium <http://clic.edu> 1619 Dayton Avenue, Suite 204A Saint Paul, MN 55104 O:651.644.3878 C:651.487.7609 F:651.644.6258
Van, Thanks for the feedback. I haven't worked with Moodle, but some of our libraries have. What we currently have for the Koha Community is: * A website * Listserv * FaceBook presence * bit of a presence on the Koha dev wiki What the users want is: * a place for online meetings o a simple solution would be an IRC channel and a few of the Koha developers suggested the Koha IRC. This would be perfect, but I'm not sure how many regular staff librarians would be comfortable with this. We could give it a try. What do you think? * updates of any user group meetings * a user group that is not company sponsored (at the moment that would be LibLime) * a set of bylaws and an actual non-profit group established Have said all of this, the biggest issue is that staff librarians (i.e. non-technical librarians want to participate in the Koha User Group (KUDOS)). And to have them participate sort of requires that all the components of the the user group is confined in one area. So, that's the quandry. With moodle, everyone can have a login, it has the chat capability, including archiving. Documentation archiving. It would also provide a method for tutorials and providing real-time help to anyone who wants it. This could work. I can try setting up a Moodle instance sometime in the next week. I'll let you know when I've completed it. Would you be willing to help test? Other stuff: I believe there may be a meeting at PLA in Minneapolis. Are you coming to PLA? If so, there may be an opportunity to be involved in the establishment of the user group bylaws and non-profit group. I'm not organizing this one due to other commitments. Additionally, I am on the planning committee for the Midwest Technology Conference that will be held in May/June timeframe. Part of that track could include setting up user groups and how they help the OSS community. I don't think this has been done. Thanks, Deb Van Carpenter wrote:
Moodle might be a very reasonable option. I have had some experience with this, and it seems to work well. The difficulty would be administrating it -- this takes time. I cannot recall, however, how well their chat application works.
That being said, it would be an appropriate partnership given that Moodle is to educational software what Koha is to library software. Moodle would also enable a document repository and forum for ongoing conversation. It would establish a Koha community.
Van
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*From:* Deb Bergeron [mailto:bergeron@macalester.edu] *Sent:* Sunday, February 03, 2008 5:48 PM *To:* koha@lists.katipo.co.nz; kudos-list@ccfls.org *Subject:* [KUDOS] Google Talk via FaceBook for KUDOS meetings
As many of you know, I've been looking for a way to have online KUDOS chat meetings via FaceBook.
Well, we tried Google Talk in the FaceBook application. It's very cumbersome and will not work for online chat meetings. However, we could utilize Google Talk via Google. Google Talk is great--you can have either a chat with one person or a group. How's it work?
All you need to do is: a. Have a google acct. b. Have an email acct.
Then, if any of us wants to talk/chat realtime we can hook up via Google Talk.
What do you think?
Other options are: a. building a moodle with chat function. (Moodle has a chat function built in.) b. email via the Koha list or FaceBook c. meet in person d. other ideas?
Deb
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-- Deb Bergeron <mailto:bergeron@macalester.edu> System Admin: User Support CLIC Consortium <http://clic.edu> 1619 Dayton Avenue, Suite 204A Saint Paul, MN 55104 O:*651.644.3878* C:*651.487.7609* F:651.644.6258
I just thought I'd throw in that Google Talk is a standard implementation of the Jabber protocol, so any jabber client can be used as well. Kyle On Feb 4, 2008 2:38 PM, Van Carpenter <VCarpenter@nbbc.edu> wrote:
Moodle might be a very reasonable option. I have had some experience with this, and it seems to work well. The difficulty would be administrating it – this takes time. I cannot recall, however, how well their chat application works.
That being said, it would be an appropriate partnership given that Moodle is to educational software what Koha is to library software. Moodle would also enable a document repository and forum for ongoing conversation. It would establish a Koha community.
Van
Preparing the next generation of servant leaders for great commission living
Van Carpenter Director of Library Services, Bible Faculty
Northland Baptist Bible College W10085 Pike Plains Road Dunbar, WI 54119
vcarpenter@nbbc.edu http://www.synodos.net
tel:
715-324-6900 x5502
Always have my latest info
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From: Deb Bergeron [mailto:bergeron@macalester.edu] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 5:48 PM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz; kudos-list@ccfls.org Subject: [KUDOS] Google Talk via FaceBook for KUDOS meetings
As many of you know, I've been looking for a way to have online KUDOS chat meetings via FaceBook.
Well, we tried Google Talk in the FaceBook application. It's very cumbersome and will not work for online chat meetings. However, we could utilize Google Talk via Google. Google Talk is great--you can have either a chat with one person or a group. How's it work?
All you need to do is: a. Have a google acct. b. Have an email acct.
Then, if any of us wants to talk/chat realtime we can hook up via Google Talk.
What do you think?
Other options are: a. building a moodle with chat function. (Moodle has a chat function built in.) b. email via the Koha list or FaceBook c. meet in person d. other ideas?
Deb
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