Re: [Koha] KohaCon 2017 Online Registration Form
Dear Paul and to our fellow Koha Community, Forgive us for the modification. Yes, to your surprise we will have a registration fee ($100) for KohaCon2017. We are doing our best to make it registration free. We are talking to the stakeholders of the venue and looking for other sponsors to help us. Again, we hope that you will understand us and everyone will register online https://goo.gl/forms/BSZz8NT46u4pBqT23. Salamat, Manny Ø ------------------------------ Ø Message: 4 Ø Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 17:30:07 +0100 Ø From: Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> Ø To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Ø Subject: Re: [Koha] KohaCon 2017 Online Registration Form Ø Message-ID: <b9c5816d-9093-4368-d535-2d1864141f58@biblibre.com> Ø Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Ø Hello Manny, Ø I'm a little bit surprised, with the reg fee as Ø https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon17_Proposals says: Ø "proposed cost: no registration fee". Ø Le 30/10/2016 à 16:20, Manny Tamayao a écrit : Ø Good day Koha community, Ø > Ø Here's the link to our KohaCon 2017 online registration form: Ø https://goo.gl/forms/BSZz8NT46u4pBqT23. We will waive the registration fee Ø of the first 100 participants who will register early. Ø > Ø Kindly help us to disseminate this information. Ø > Ø Salamat, Ø Manny Ø > Ø > Ø > Ø -- Ø Paul Poulain, Associé-gérant / co-owner Ø BibLibre, Services en logiciels libres pour les bibliothèques Ø BibLibre, Open Source software and services for libraries
Hi, from the IRC meeting I understand the fee and the registration is there to avoid having locals attend the conference. Is that correct? A very important point of Kohacon as I understand it is to give locals a chance to participate in something they could otherwise not be part of. Free of charge. We switch the location every year and have rules to avoid it going back and forth between Europe and the USA most of the time. Rules that lead to the Philippines winning the bid by default, because a European location was automatically ruled out this time. As I understand, we do that so there is a small chance for people to attend a Kohacon even if they can't travel to distant places. I'd like people in the Philippines to have that chance next year. I would like some clarification on this please. -- Mirko Manny Tamayao schrieb am 03.11.2016
Dear Paul and to our fellow Koha Community,
Forgive us for the modification.
Yes, to your surprise we will have a registration fee ($100) for KohaCon2017. We are doing our best to make it registration free.
We are talking to the stakeholders of the venue and looking for other sponsors to help us.
Again, we hope that you will understand us and everyone will register online https://goo.gl/forms/BSZz8NT46u4pBqT23.
Salamat,
Manny
Ø ------------------------------
Ø Message: 4
Ø Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 17:30:07 +0100
Ø From: Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com>
Ø To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
Ø Subject: Re: [Koha] KohaCon 2017 Online Registration Form
Ø Message-ID: <b9c5816d-9093-4368-d535-2d1864141f58@biblibre.com>
Ø Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Ø Hello Manny,
Ø I'm a little bit surprised, with the reg fee as
Ø https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon17_Proposals says:
Ø "proposed cost: no registration fee".
Ø Le 30/10/2016 à 16:20, Manny Tamayao a écrit :
Ø Good day Koha community,
Ø >
Ø Here's the link to our KohaCon 2017 online registration form:
Ø https://goo.gl/forms/BSZz8NT46u4pBqT23. We will waive the registration fee
Ø of the first 100 participants who will register early.
Ø >
Ø Kindly help us to disseminate this information.
Ø >
Ø Salamat,
Ø Manny
Ø >
Ø >
Ø >
Ø --
Ø Paul Poulain, Associé-gérant / co-owner
Ø BibLibre, Services en logiciels libres pour les bibliothèques
Ø BibLibre, Open Source software and services for libraries _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Hi Manny, I pretty much agree with Mirko. I think the concern that is being expressed by Paul and others is that the proposal (https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon17_Proposals) was submitted and accepted on the basis of no registration fee. As was raised in the meeting (https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_2_November_2016) a suggestion is to develop a budget for the conference. You can then ascertain whether the funding you have is adequate and if not you can come back to an IRC meeting or to this list to canvass possible solutions. So far there has been no call out to Listed Support Companies for sponsorship but previous conferences have done that. Not having a registration fee does not prevent you putting a limit on the number of attendees, or even categories of attendees. Although as Mirko argues, locals are good. I hope this helps. Bob On 04/11/16 17:53, Mirko Tietgen wrote:
Hi,
from the IRC meeting I understand the fee and the registration is there to avoid having locals attend the conference. Is that correct?
A very important point of Kohacon as I understand it is to give locals a chance to participate in something they could otherwise not be part of. Free of charge.
We switch the location every year and have rules to avoid it going back and forth between Europe and the USA most of the time. Rules that lead to the Philippines winning the bid by default, because a European location was automatically ruled out this time.
As I understand, we do that so there is a small chance for people to attend a Kohacon even if they can't travel to distant places. I'd like people in the Philippines to have that chance next year.
I would like some clarification on this please.
-- Mirko
Manny Tamayao schrieb am 03.11.2016
Dear Paul and to our fellow Koha Community,
Forgive us for the modification.
Yes, to your surprise we will have a registration fee ($100) for KohaCon2017. We are doing our best to make it registration free.
We are talking to the stakeholders of the venue and looking for other sponsors to help us.
Again, we hope that you will understand us and everyone will register online https://goo.gl/forms/BSZz8NT46u4pBqT23.
Salamat,
Manny
Ø ------------------------------
Ø Message: 4
Ø Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 17:30:07 +0100
Ø From: Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com>
Ø To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
Ø Subject: Re: [Koha] KohaCon 2017 Online Registration Form
Ø Message-ID: <b9c5816d-9093-4368-d535-2d1864141f58@biblibre.com>
Ø Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Ø Hello Manny,
Ø I'm a little bit surprised, with the reg fee as
Ø https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon17_Proposals says:
Ø "proposed cost: no registration fee".
Ø Le 30/10/2016 à 16:20, Manny Tamayao a écrit :
Ø Good day Koha community,
Ø >
Ø Here's the link to our KohaCon 2017 online registration form:
Ø https://goo.gl/forms/BSZz8NT46u4pBqT23. We will waive the registration fee
Ø of the first 100 participants who will register early.
Ø >
Ø Kindly help us to disseminate this information.
Ø >
Ø Salamat,
Ø Manny
Ø >
Ø >
Ø >
Ø --
Ø Paul Poulain, Associé-gérant / co-owner
Ø BibLibre, Services en logiciels libres pour les bibliothèques
Ø BibLibre, Open Source software and services for libraries _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Hi, If the reason for adding some fees was to avoid having locals attending, there's something going wrong... 80% of attendees are local people. And that's why we're moving from countries to countries. In India, IIRC, there were "all" students from the local librarian school. And that was *great*. The audience of the KohaCon usually consist in 20-30 "usual attendees", that come every year, it (almost) doesn't depend on where it takes place, some "close countries" people, that take profit of a "short" trip, a few coming from a long distance, and all others are local ! + : the 1st part of the KohaCon is usually dedicated to "discover what Koha can do for you", so it's made for local ! Le 04/11/2016 à 07:53, Mirko Tietgen a écrit :
Hi,
from the IRC meeting I understand the fee and the registration is there to avoid having locals attend the conference. Is that correct?
A very important point of Kohacon as I understand it is to give locals a chance to participate in something they could otherwise not be part of. Free of charge.
We switch the location every year and have rules to avoid it going back and forth between Europe and the USA most of the time. Rules that lead to the Philippines winning the bid by default, because a European location was automatically ruled out this time.
As I understand, we do that so there is a small chance for people to attend a Kohacon even if they can't travel to distant places. I'd like people in the Philippines to have that chance next year.
I would like some clarification on this please.
-- Mirko
Manny Tamayao schrieb am 03.11.2016
Dear Paul and to our fellow Koha Community,
Forgive us for the modification.
Yes, to your surprise we will have a registration fee ($100) for KohaCon2017. We are doing our best to make it registration free.
We are talking to the stakeholders of the venue and looking for other sponsors to help us.
Again, we hope that you will understand us and everyone will register online https://goo.gl/forms/BSZz8NT46u4pBqT23.
Salamat,
Manny
Ø ------------------------------
Ø Message: 4
Ø Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 17:30:07 +0100
Ø From: Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com>
Ø To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
Ø Subject: Re: [Koha] KohaCon 2017 Online Registration Form
Ø Message-ID: <b9c5816d-9093-4368-d535-2d1864141f58@biblibre.com>
Ø Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Ø Hello Manny,
Ø I'm a little bit surprised, with the reg fee as
Ø https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon17_Proposals says:
Ø "proposed cost: no registration fee".
Ø Le 30/10/2016 à 16:20, Manny Tamayao a écrit :
Ø Good day Koha community,
Ø >
Ø Here's the link to our KohaCon 2017 online registration form:
Ø https://goo.gl/forms/BSZz8NT46u4pBqT23. We will waive the registration fee
Ø of the first 100 participants who will register early.
Ø >
Ø Kindly help us to disseminate this information.
Ø >
Ø Salamat,
Ø Manny
Ø >
Ø >
Ø >
Ø --
Ø Paul Poulain, Associé-gérant / co-owner
Ø BibLibre, Services en logiciels libres pour les bibliothèques
Ø BibLibre, Open Source software and services for libraries _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Paul Poulain, Associé-gérant / co-owner BibLibre, Services en logiciels libres pour les bibliothèques BibLibre, Open Source software and services for libraries
I completely endorse Paul's sentiments. Having high local participation is a key point of KohaCon and is the very reason it circulates around the globe. I urge the organisors to issue a statement clarifying why the registration was imposed and what the view is towards local participation. Jo. On 16/11/2016 4:49 AM, "Paul Poulain" <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> wrote:
Hi, If the reason for adding some fees was to avoid having locals attending, there's something going wrong... 80% of attendees are local people. And that's why we're moving from countries to countries. In India, IIRC, there were "all" students from the local librarian school. And that was *great*. The audience of the KohaCon usually consist in 20-30 "usual attendees", that come every year, it (almost) doesn't depend on where it takes place, some "close countries" people, that take profit of a "short" trip, a few coming from a long distance, and all others are local ! + : the 1st part of the KohaCon is usually dedicated to "discover what Koha can do for you", so it's made for local !
Le 04/11/2016 à 07:53, Mirko Tietgen a écrit :
Hi,
from the IRC meeting I understand the fee and the registration is there to avoid having locals attend the conference. Is that correct?
A very important point of Kohacon as I understand it is to give locals a chance to participate in something they could otherwise not be part of. Free of charge.
We switch the location every year and have rules to avoid it going back and forth between Europe and the USA most of the time. Rules that lead to the Philippines winning the bid by default, because a European location was automatically ruled out this time.
As I understand, we do that so there is a small chance for people to attend a Kohacon even if they can't travel to distant places. I'd like people in the Philippines to have that chance next year.
I would like some clarification on this please.
-- Mirko
Manny Tamayao schrieb am 03.11.2016
Dear Paul and to our fellow Koha Community,
Forgive us for the modification.
Yes, to your surprise we will have a registration fee ($100) for KohaCon2017. We are doing our best to make it registration free.
We are talking to the stakeholders of the venue and looking for other sponsors to help us.
Again, we hope that you will understand us and everyone will register online https://goo.gl/forms/BSZz8NT46u4pBqT23.
Salamat,
Manny
Ø ------------------------------
Ø Message: 4
Ø Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 17:30:07 +0100
Ø From: Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com>
Ø To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
Ø Subject: Re: [Koha] KohaCon 2017 Online Registration Form
Ø Message-ID: <b9c5816d-9093-4368-d535-2d1864141f58@biblibre.com>
Ø Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Ø Hello Manny,
Ø I'm a little bit surprised, with the reg fee as
Ø https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon17_Proposals says:
Ø "proposed cost: no registration fee".
Ø Le 30/10/2016 à 16:20, Manny Tamayao a écrit :
Ø Good day Koha community,
Ø >
Ø Here's the link to our KohaCon 2017 online registration form:
Ø https://goo.gl/forms/BSZz8NT46u4pBqT23. We will waive the registration fee
Ø of the first 100 participants who will register early.
Ø >
Ø Kindly help us to disseminate this information.
Ø >
Ø Salamat,
Ø Manny
Ø >
Ø >
Ø >
Ø --
Ø Paul Poulain, Associé-gérant / co-owner
Ø BibLibre, Services en logiciels libres pour les bibliothèques
Ø BibLibre, Open Source software and services for libraries _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Paul Poulain, Associé-gérant / co-owner BibLibre, Services en logiciels libres pour les bibliothèques BibLibre, Open Source software and services for libraries
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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