Hi all Over the weekend (NZ time) PTFS/Liblime posted a blog post on their company blog directly aimed at Nicole Engard. http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728 Most of you know Nicole as the Koha documentation manager, who has spent 1000's of hours of her life, some paid, some unpaid, working on Koha. You can see from the currently first comment on that blog, that PTFS/Liblime's version of events does not tally with the recollection of the president of the Illinois chapter of SLA, who were running the webinar. Nicole also responded on her own blog http://www.web2learning.net/archives/4177 Where she has received much support as well as hostile comments from people who believe this kind of behaviour from PTFS/Liblime is perfectly ok. Well I don't. I would just like to state publicly here that I stand behind Nicole and I don't think her being attacked by a corporation is right. I encourage others to also support Nicole. Chris
On 2010-10-12, at 6:44 AM, Chris Cormack wrote:
Hi all
Over the weekend (NZ time) PTFS/Liblime posted a blog post on their company blog directly aimed at Nicole Engard. http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728
Most of you know Nicole as the Koha documentation manager, who has spent 1000's of hours of her life, some paid, some unpaid, working on Koha.
You can see from the currently first comment on that blog, that PTFS/Liblime's version of events does not tally with the recollection of the president of the Illinois chapter of SLA, who were running the webinar.
Nicole also responded on her own blog http://www.web2learning.net/archives/4177
Where she has received much support as well as hostile comments from people who believe this kind of behaviour from PTFS/Liblime is perfectly ok.
Well I don't. I would just like to state publicly here that I stand behind Nicole and I don't think her being attacked by a corporation is right. I encourage others to also support Nicole.
Chris _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Hi all, i feel strongly enough about this incident to comment too. I have also added my support to Nicole's blog too simply put (with the exception of Chris.C) Nicole plays the most crucial role in the *entire* Koha project why?? because no-one else can be bothered to do that role... except Nicole As a fellow ex-employee of LibLime (auspicious alumni indeed!), i wish to express my disgust against the personal (and refuted) attack against Nicole by PTFS/Liblime, and to offer my support to Nicole PTFS/LibLime owe both Nicole and Dianna a public apology for this incident Cheers, Mason -- Mason JAMES www.kohaaloha.com KohaAloha Ltd. NZ TEL: (+64) 4 889 0966
Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz> wrote:
Over the weekend (NZ time) PTFS/Liblime posted a blog post on their company blog directly aimed at Nicole Engard. http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728
Two things about that: 1. Anyone else find it amusing to see blogs.liblime.com criticising Liblime's past actions? If anyone was in any doubt about that the new Liblime is even odder than the old Liblime, there you see it. 2. who is kas0220 and why do they lack the decency to put their name to this post?
[...] I would just like to state publicly here that I stand behind Nicole and I don't think her being attacked by a corporation is right. I encourage others to also support Nicole.
I support Nicole and look forward to meeting her at Kohacon10. Perhaps "I support Nicole" should become the conference motto? If Nicole doesn't mind, that is. Regards, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. Past Koha Release Manager (2.0), LMS programmer, statistician, webmaster. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire for Koha work http://www.software.coop/products/koha
Its unfortunate that this would happen. At least we have all seen Nicole's work and benefiited from it. Nicole, keep up the good work! Kind regards, Beatrice Adera Amollo Head Librarian Australian Studies Institute Centro House, off Ring Road, opp. The Mall,Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya P.O. Box 25520-00603, Nairobi, Kenya P: +254 (0) 20 444 11 10 or +254 (0) 20 444 87 42 | F: +254 (0) 20 444 1120 or +254 (0) 20 444 87 43 M:+254 (0) 722 208768or+254 (0) 722 208769 | W: www.ausied.com Skype: ausi_beatricea ________________________________ From: MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop> To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 1:37:52 AM Subject: Re: [Koha] Support for Nicole Engard Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz> wrote:
Over the weekend (NZ time) PTFS/Liblime posted a blog post on their company blog directly aimed at Nicole Engard. http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728
Two things about that: 1. Anyone else find it amusing to see blogs.liblime.com criticising Liblime's past actions? If anyone was in any doubt about that the new Liblime is even odder than the old Liblime, there you see it. 2. who is kas0220 and why do they lack the decency to put their name to this post?
[...] I would just like to state publicly here that I stand behind Nicole and I don't think her being attacked by a corporation is right. I encourage others to also support Nicole.
I support Nicole and look forward to meeting her at Kohacon10. Perhaps "I support Nicole" should become the conference motto? If Nicole doesn't mind, that is. Regards, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. Past Koha Release Manager (2.0), LMS programmer, statistician, webmaster. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire for Koha work http://www.software.coop/products/koha _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
I do also support Nicole, good job nicole, all the best Regards Rohit Singh rohit.singh@rsg.co.in On October 12, 2010 at 6:50 AM Beatrice Adera <bt_am2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
Its unfortunate that this would happen. At least we have all seen Nicole's work and benefiited from it. Nicole, keep up the good work!
Kind regards, Beatrice Adera Amollo Head Librarian Australian Studies Institute Centro House, off Ring Road, opp. The Mall,Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya
P.O. Box 25520-00603, Nairobi, Kenya
P: +254 (0) 20 444 11 10 or +254 (0) 20 444 87 42 | F: +254 (0) 20 444 1120 or +254 (0) 20 444 87 43 M:+254 (0) 722 208768or+254 (0) 722 208769 | W: www.ausied.com Skype: ausi_beatricea
________________________________ From: MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop> To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 1:37:52 AM Subject: Re: [Koha] Support for Nicole Engard
Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz> wrote:
Over the weekend (NZ time) PTFS/Liblime posted a blog post on their company blog directly aimed at Nicole Engard. http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728
Two things about that:
1. Anyone else find it amusing to see blogs.liblime.com criticising Liblime's past actions? If anyone was in any doubt about that the new Liblime is even odder than the old Liblime, there you see it.
2. who is kas0220 and why do they lack the decency to put their name to this post?
[...] I would just like to state publicly here that I stand behind Nicole and I don't think her being attacked by a corporation is right. I encourage others to also support Nicole.
I support Nicole and look forward to meeting her at Kohacon10. Perhaps "I support Nicole" should become the conference motto? If Nicole doesn't mind, that is.
Regards, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. Past Koha Release Manager (2.0), LMS programmer, statistician, webmaster. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire for Koha work http://www.software.coop/products/koha _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
While I've not been following the politics behind all this, I will say Nicole has been extremely kind and helpful to me personally, and I have a feeling that this is the case with many, many others. Elaine 2010/10/12 rohit.singh <rohit.singh@rsg.co.in>:
I do also support Nicole, good job nicole, all the best
Regards
Rohit Singh
rohit.singh@rsg.co.in
On October 12, 2010 at 6:50 AM Beatrice Adera <bt_am2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
Its unfortunate that this would happen. At least we have all seen Nicole's work and benefiited from it. Nicole, keep up the good work!
Kind regards,
Beatrice Adera Amollo Head Librarian Australian Studies Institute Centro House, off Ring Road, opp. The Mall,Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya
P.O. Box 25520-00603, Nairobi, Kenya
P: +254 (0) 20 444 11 10 or +254 (0) 20 444 87 42 | F: +254 (0) 20 444 1120 or +254 (0) 20 444 87 43 M:+254 (0) 722 208768or+254 (0) 722 208769 | W: www.ausied.com Skype: ausi_beatricea
________________________________ From: MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop> To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 1:37:52 AM Subject: Re: [Koha] Support for Nicole Engard
Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz> wrote:
Over the weekend (NZ time) PTFS/Liblime posted a blog post on their company blog directly aimed at Nicole Engard. http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728
Two things about that:
1. Anyone else find it amusing to see blogs.liblime.com criticising Liblime's past actions? If anyone was in any doubt about that the new Liblime is even odder than the old Liblime, there you see it.
2. who is kas0220 and why do they lack the decency to put their name to this post?
[...] I would just like to state publicly here that I stand behind Nicole and I don't think her being attacked by a corporation is right. I encourage others to also support Nicole.
I support Nicole and look forward to meeting her at Kohacon10. Perhaps "I support Nicole" should become the conference motto? If Nicole doesn't mind, that is.
Regards, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. Past Koha Release Manager (2.0), LMS programmer, statistician, webmaster. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire for Koha work http://www.software.coop/products/koha _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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2. who is kas0220 and why do they lack the decency to put their name to this post?
The coward's path of secrecy would seem rather in keeping for an entity that has an unchivalrous record of attacking women, wouldn't you think?
[...] I would just like to state publicly here that I stand behind Nicole and I don't think her being attacked by a corporation is right. I encourage others to also support Nicole.
I support Nicole and look forward to meeting her at Kohacon10. Perhaps "I support Nicole" should become the conference motto? If Nicole doesn't mind, that is.
I confess I was rather hoping that the motto would be summat like "Tonight Chris will party like it's 1999 and he wasn't programming Koha." I'd like to state publicly that I look forward to hearing PTFS' rationale for assailing a community member at Conference. I've tried rather hard to remain neutral towards them as they learn the ropes, but I would hope for some sort of in person explanation of this convenient wrong. Kia Haka Nicole, and thank you for your years of service to the community. Cheers, Brooke
I would just like to state publicly here that I stand behind Nicole and I don't think her being attacked by a corporation is right.
And so do I, publicly and loudly. -- Frédéric DEMIANS http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html
Thanks you Christ! I do support Nicole as she is open and speaks the truth! Yohannes Mulugeta On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Frederic Demians <frederic@tamil.fr>wrote:
I would just like to state publicly here that I stand behind Nicole and I don't think her being attacked by a corporation is right.
And so do I, publicly and loudly.
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Le 11/10/2010 19:44, Chris Cormack a écrit :
Hi all
Over the weekend (NZ time) PTFS/Liblime posted a blog post on their company blog directly aimed at Nicole Engard.
My (and BibLibre) answer : http://www.biblibre.com/en/blog/entry/when-what-you-say-is-not-consistent-wi... It's not related to this personal attack only, but in french, we say it's "the cherry on the top of the cake"[1] (or it's "the straw that broke the camel") [1] this is usually used in a positive way, but, of course, in this case, it's very negative. The cake is poisonous ;-) -- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08
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