Hi all, These last couple of hours, i've been trying to access different *.mysql.com sites (for my non-Koha work). None of them responding to a http request. I'm not being a fear-monger or crystal gazer here, but I'm dependent on MySQL for several apps that i commercially support, which includes Koha. I wonder just how ready or MySQL dependent are we (Koha users) as a community, just in case, Oracle decides to stop further work on MySQL? I'm aware of efforts like Drizzle. But how are we positioned w.r.t MySQL deps and what could hypothetically could be a possible life after MySQL (if it ever comes to that) -indra
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Indranil Das Gupta <indradg@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi all,
These last couple of hours, i've been trying to access different *.mysql.com sites (for my non-Koha work). None of them responding to a http request. I'm not being a fear-monger or crystal gazer here, but I'm dependent on MySQL for several apps that i commercially support, which includes Koha.
I wonder just how ready or MySQL dependent are we (Koha users) as a community, just in case, Oracle decides to stop further work on MySQL? I'm aware of efforts like Drizzle. But how are we positioned w.r.t MySQL deps and what could hypothetically could be a possible life after MySQL (if it ever comes to that)
-indra
The servers are indeed unreachable at present. I think that is unrelated to the larger question. It doesn't matter if Oracle stops working on mysql, the open source community will still develop it. Maybe it would fork into a different project, but there is no risk of mysql "going away". That being said, the best move towards DB agnosticism for Koha is to implement an abstraction layer like DBIx::Class. We are pretty far from that right now. In fact, we may be reaching a point where this kind of of work is so overdue that it is inordinately more difficult to accomplish it. All the new work is being done without it adds to the task. And no entity is yet willing to sponsor this kind of rewrite because it adds no user-visible features, yet will take literally dozens if not hundreds of manhours. -- Joe Atzberger LibLime - Open Source Library Solutions
Indranil Das Gupta a écrit :
Hi all,
These last couple of hours, i've been trying to access different *.mysql.com sites (for my non-Koha work). None of them responding to a http request. I'm not being a fear-monger or crystal gazer here, but I'm dependent on MySQL for several apps that i commercially support, which includes Koha.
I wonder just how ready or MySQL dependent are we (Koha users) as a community, just in case, Oracle decides to stop further work on MySQL? I'm aware of efforts like Drizzle. But how are we positioned w.r.t MySQL deps and what could hypothetically could be a possible life after MySQL (if it ever comes to that)
yes, of course, there is a possible life after mySQL, and it's called PostgreSQL. Someone worked on porting koha here some months ago, with some success. Although it's not heavily tested, if we had to switch here, that should not be a deadly thing. But i don't think that it will be necessary. And I'm sure mysql.com will be up again tomorrow morning and we will learn that the DNS or Apache or whatever-you-want had a major problem today -- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08
Linux for you magazine published an article about the merger of Oracle and Sun, which included a candid discussion by Monty Widenius (the creator of MySQL) about what might happen to MySQL. Of the scenarios that he considered (including a few bleak ones) Monty thinks that since there are already branches off the main release, these will continue to keep MySQL viable. regards, krishnan --- On Wed, 22/7/09, paul POULAIN <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> wrote: From: paul POULAIN <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> Subject: Re: [Koha] What if mysql stops being around? To: "Indranil Das Gupta" <indradg@gmail.com> Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Date: Wednesday, 22 July, 2009, 3:46 PM Indranil Das Gupta a écrit :
Hi all,
These last couple of hours, i've been trying to access different *.mysql.com sites (for my non-Koha work). None of them responding to a http request. I'm not being a fear-monger or crystal gazer here, but I'm dependent on MySQL for several apps that i commercially support, which includes Koha.
I wonder just how ready or MySQL dependent are we (Koha users) as a community, just in case, Oracle decides to stop further work on MySQL? I'm aware of efforts like Drizzle. But how are we positioned w.r.t MySQL deps and what could hypothetically could be a possible life after MySQL (if it ever comes to that) yes, of course, there is a possible life after mySQL, and it's called PostgreSQL. Someone worked on porting koha here some months ago, with some success. Although it's not heavily tested, if we had to switch here, that should not be a deadly thing. But i don't think that it will be necessary. And I'm sure mysql.com will be up again tomorrow morning and we will learn that the DNS or Apache or whatever-you-want had a major problem today
-- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08 _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Yahoo! Buzz. http://in.buzz.yahoo.com/
Indranil Das Gupta a écrit :
Hi all,
These last couple of hours, i've been trying to access different *.mysql.com sites (for my non-Koha work). None of them responding to a http request. I'm not being a fear-monger or crystal gazer here, but I'm dependent on MySQL for several apps that i commercially support, which includes Koha.
http://twitter.com/mysql : "Power outage at MySQL data center in Sweden. We're working to get the #mysql <http://twitter.com/search?q=%23mysql> website up & running soon." -- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08
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