Re: [Koha] Going completely on-line with Koha
Saturday, November 29, 2003 17:22 CST Hi, David, Good luck with going online. Just from what other library folk have experienced in the past, it may be wise to keep at least one set of your card catalogue (I assumed that was what you meant by "on-paper", although if it is a book catalogue, that is even easier) for the first year or so as staff transition to relying on the Koha ILS. Don't know about generating new acq reports, but as for your other question
[...]is there a way to add jacket cover photos or Web-based links relevant to a book or its author? I had asked this question earlier this year. The answer at the time was "no, not yet"
In responding, Paul indicated what would be needed to be added to do it, which was well beyond me. I can dig his answer up if you want. Otherwise, as Paul stated at the time, it was *not* a high priority for the developers, although I still think it would be a great little bell & whistle for Koha to consider adding soon. Cheers, Steven F. Baljkas library tech at large Koha neophyte Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA
Steve and David, This is a very important feature to add to Koha. It is something that librarians look for when comparing products. I missed Paul's message on this, but I'll go back and check. Anne Zarinnia On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 05:28 PM, baljkas@mb.sympatico.ca wrote:
Saturday, November 29, 2003 17:22 CST
Hi, David,
Good luck with going online.
Just from what other library folk have experienced in the past, it may be wise to keep at least one set of your card catalogue (I assumed that was what you meant by "on-paper", although if it is a book catalogue, that is even easier) for the first year or so as staff transition to relying on the Koha ILS.
Don't know about generating new acq reports, but as for your other question
[...]is there a way to add jacket cover photos or Web-based links relevant to a book or its author? I had asked this question earlier this year. The answer at the time was "no, not yet"
In responding, Paul indicated what would be needed to be added to do it, which was well beyond me. I can dig his answer up if you want. Otherwise, as Paul stated at the time, it was *not* a high priority for the developers, although I still think it would be a great little bell & whistle for Koha to consider adding soon.
Cheers, Steven F. Baljkas library tech at large Koha neophyte Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA
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yea I vote for this feature also.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Zarinnia" <zarinnie@uww.edu> To: <baljkas@mb.sympatico.ca> Cc: <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Koha] Going completely on-line with Koha
Steve and David, This is a very important feature to add to Koha. It is something that librarians look for when comparing products. I missed Paul's message on this, but I'll go back and check. Anne Zarinnia
On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 05:28 PM, baljkas@mb.sympatico.ca wrote:
Saturday, November 29, 2003 17:22 CST
Hi, David,
Good luck with going online.
Just from what other library folk have experienced in the past, it may be wise to keep at least one set of your card catalogue (I assumed that was what you meant by "on-paper", although if it is a book catalogue, that is even easier) for the first year or so as staff transition to relying on the Koha ILS.
Don't know about generating new acq reports, but as for your other question
[...]is there a way to add jacket cover photos or Web-based links relevant to a book or its author? I had asked this question earlier this year. The answer at the time was "no, not yet"
In responding, Paul indicated what would be needed to be added to do it, which was well beyond me. I can dig his answer up if you want. Otherwise, as Paul stated at the time, it was *not* a high priority for the developers, although I still think it would be a great little bell & whistle for Koha to consider adding soon.
Cheers, Steven F. Baljkas library tech at large Koha neophyte Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA
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Anne Zarinnia a écrit :
I missed Paul's message on this, but I'll go back and check.
I missed this message too :-D So, i please remind me when I said that. -- Paul POULAIN Consultant indépendant en logiciels libres responsable francophone de koha (SIGB libre http://www.koha-fr.org)
Adding an aquisition report will be trivial. The basic code for doing it is already in the rssKoha package, and would only need a template put together and date checking added (the current code lists the 15 most recent acquisitions. -pate Pat Eyler Kaitiaki/manager migrant Linux sys admin the Koha project ruby, shell, and perl geek http://www.koha.org http://pate.eylerfamily.org On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Anne Zarinnia wrote:
Steve and David, This is a very important feature to add to Koha. It is something that librarians look for when comparing products. I missed Paul's message on this, but I'll go back and check. Anne Zarinnia
On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 05:28 PM, baljkas@mb.sympatico.ca wrote:
Saturday, November 29, 2003 17:22 CST
Hi, David,
Good luck with going online.
Just from what other library folk have experienced in the past, it may be wise to keep at least one set of your card catalogue (I assumed that was what you meant by "on-paper", although if it is a book catalogue, that is even easier) for the first year or so as staff transition to relying on the Koha ILS.
Don't know about generating new acq reports, but as for your other question
[...]is there a way to add jacket cover photos or Web-based links relevant to a book or its author? I had asked this question earlier this year. The answer at the time was "no, not yet"
In responding, Paul indicated what would be needed to be added to do it, which was well beyond me. I can dig his answer up if you want. Otherwise, as Paul stated at the time, it was *not* a high priority for the developers, although I still think it would be a great little bell & whistle for Koha to consider adding soon.
Cheers, Steven F. Baljkas library tech at large Koha neophyte Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA
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Dear Pat, Thank you for answering re. acquisition repots. Apparently, our library would like to have reports the last 24 hours, the last week, the month and perhaps the year. Possible? David Quoting Pat Eyler <pate@eylerfamily.org>:
Adding an aquisition report will be trivial. The basic code for doing it is already in the rssKoha package, and would only need a template put together and date checking added (the current code lists the 15 most recent acquisitions.
-pate
Pat Eyler Kaitiaki/manager migrant Linux sys admin the Koha project ruby, shell, and perl geek http://www.koha.org http://pate.eylerfamily.org On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Anne Zarinnia wrote:
Steve and David, This is a very important feature to add to Koha. It is something that librarians look for when comparing products. I missed Paul's message on this, but I'll go back and check. Anne Zarinnia
On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 05:28 PM, baljkas@mb.sympatico.ca wrote:
Saturday, November 29, 2003 17:22 CST
Hi, David,
Good luck with going online.
Just from what other library folk have experienced in the past, it may be wise to keep at least one set of your card catalogue (I assumed that was what you meant by "on-paper", although if it is a book catalogue, that is even easier) for the first year or so as staff transition to relying on the Koha ILS.
Don't know about generating new acq reports, but as for your other question
[...]is there a way to add jacket cover photos or Web-based links relevant to a book or its author? I had asked this question earlier this year. The answer at the time was "no, not yet"
In responding, Paul indicated what would be needed to be added to do it, which was well beyond me. I can dig his answer up if you want. Otherwise, as Paul stated at the time, it was *not* a high priority for the developers, although I still think it would be a great little bell & whistle for Koha to consider adding soon.
Cheers, Steven F. Baljkas library tech at large Koha neophyte Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, David M. Bucknell wrote:
Dear Pat,
Thank you for answering re. acquisition repots. Apparently, our library would like to have reports the last 24 hours, the last week, the month and perhaps the year. Possible?
It would be fairly easy to do. I think you've got a couple of options at this point: you can wait for them to show up (sometime after 2.0.0 is released), you could have someone on your staff write them, or you could try to entice someone to write them for you. I'd like to take a minute to talk about the last idea, because I think it's some low hanging fruit that we often overlook. Most of the time when we think about enticing someone to write code for us, we think of spending big $$$s and hiring a programmer. The free software community opens your options up though. Here are some alternatives: - Contact a local high school/community college/university and see if you can't work out a project with an instructor and student (or team of students). In fact, this doesn't just need to be a local school. There are at least three Universities hanging out on this mailing list, perhaps one of them has a student or three who'd be interested in a task like this. - See if there's a local Linux/Unix/Perl users group. Maybe you can work out a deal for meeting space/pizza (or the local equivalent)/publicity in return for some light programming work. - Talk to city, county, provincial, state, etc. governemnt or NGOs about what you're doing and why. They may have some resources to help. The city of Amparo in Brazil translated Koha into Portuguese for use in their local library, Finland is putting money into an effort to localize Koha for use there. - Look to other libraries to team up with. It may be that the very things you want are things another library wants as well. What may be an unsurmountable list for a single library could be quite doable by a group of three or five or ten. I'm sure that someone will pop up with a couple of more low cost/no cost means of 'hiring' out the work. (Hmmm, how about naming rights for PAC terminals -- naah, that's just a bit too silly.) Anyway, I think your request is valid. I know other libraries are looking for similar stuff. I don't think we'll see it until after 2.0.0 unless someone decides to put a quick package together outside the normal distribution. If anybody does do this *please* share it with the wider community so that it can be incorporated into 2.0.1. thanks, -pate
David
Quoting Pat Eyler <pate@eylerfamily.org>:
Adding an aquisition report will be trivial. The basic code for doing it is already in the rssKoha package, and would only need a template put together and date checking added (the current code lists the 15 most recent acquisitions.
-pate
Pat Eyler Kaitiaki/manager migrant Linux sys admin the Koha project ruby, shell, and perl geek http://www.koha.org http://pate.eylerfamily.org On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Anne Zarinnia wrote:
Steve and David, This is a very important feature to add to Koha. It is something that librarians look for when comparing products. I missed Paul's message on this, but I'll go back and check. Anne Zarinnia
On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 05:28 PM, baljkas@mb.sympatico.ca wrote:
Saturday, November 29, 2003 17:22 CST
Hi, David,
Good luck with going online.
Just from what other library folk have experienced in the past, it may be wise to keep at least one set of your card catalogue (I assumed that was what you meant by "on-paper", although if it is a book catalogue, that is even easier) for the first year or so as staff transition to relying on the Koha ILS.
Don't know about generating new acq reports, but as for your other question
[...]is there a way to add jacket cover photos or Web-based links relevant to a book or its author? I had asked this question earlier this year. The answer at the time was "no, not yet"
In responding, Paul indicated what would be needed to be added to do it, which was well beyond me. I can dig his answer up if you want. Otherwise, as Paul stated at the time, it was *not* a high priority for the developers, although I still think it would be a great little bell & whistle for Koha to consider adding soon.
Cheers, Steven F. Baljkas library tech at large Koha neophyte Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA
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Hello David We have a report that we run in SQL. It is <bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,0000</param><FontFamily><param>Courier New</param><bigger>select</bold> <color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>barcode<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>,</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>title<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>,</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>author<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>,</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>classification<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>,</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>itemtype<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>, </bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>dewey<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>,</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,0000</param> <color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>dateaccessioned<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>,</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>price<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>,</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>replacementprice<color><param>FF00,FF00,0000</param> <bold>from</bold> <color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>items<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>,</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>biblio<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>,</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>biblioitems<color><param>FF00,FF00,0000</param> <bold>where</bold> <color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>dateaccessioned<color><param>FF00,FF00,0000</param> <bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>>=</bold><color><param>0000,FF00,F000</param>'2003-11-01'<color><param>FF00,FF00,0000</param> <bold>and</bold> <color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>dateaccessioned<color><param>FF00,FF00,0000</param> <bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param><<=</bold><color><param>0000,FF00,F000</param>'2003-11-30'<color><param>FF00,FF00,0000</param> <bold>and</bold> <color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>items<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>.</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>biblioitemnumber<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>=</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>biblioitems<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>.</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>biblioitem number<color><param>FF00,FF00,0000</param> <bold>and</bold> <color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>items<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>.</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>biblionumber<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>=</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>biblio<bold><color><param>FF00,0000,0000</param>.</bold><color><param>FF00,FF00,F000</param>biblionumber</color><FontFamily><param>Arial</param><smaller> This is the report for the month of November 2003. You can change the dates as you wish, or add different fields to the display. Rosalie Blaske Horowhenua Library Trust <color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>> On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, David M. Bucknell wrote:
Dear Pat,
Thank you for answering re. acquisition repots. Apparently, our
library would like to have reports the last 24 hours, the last week,
the month and perhaps the year. Possible?
<nofill> Rosalie Blake Head of Libraries, Horowhenua Library Trust
On 2003-12-02 16:35:54 +0000 Pat Eyler <pate@eylerfamily.org> wrote:
Most of the time when we think about enticing someone to write code for us, we think of spending big $$$s and hiring a programmer.
Not necessarily that big $$$s. Don't write off the fine upstanding programmers on the koha site's support page if you haven't asked them. Even if their price is too high for your institution, you could probably find other libraries who want it and make a consortium bid. If the programmers can't take the whole job, they may be able to suggest ways of dividing it into smaller ones, or combining some small linked jobs into a larger one. Endless possibilities. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef@jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/
perhaps we could also hope that there are some programmers on this project for purely altruistic reasons and not trying to milk $$ from each line of code.... sometimes things need to get done just for the pure reason they need to get done.... (remember folks to make it print out the library of congress catalog number instead of the Dewey number it is just one field you are dealing with! ) ed sharpe archivist for smecc ----- Original Message ----- From: "MJ Ray" <mjr@dsl.pipex.com> To: <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Koha] Going completely on-line with Koha
On 2003-12-02 16:35:54 +0000 Pat Eyler <pate@eylerfamily.org> wrote:
Most of the time when we think about enticing someone to write code for us, we think of spending big $$$s and hiring a programmer.
Not necessarily that big $$$s. Don't write off the fine upstanding programmers on the koha site's support page if you haven't asked them. Even if their price is too high for your institution, you could probably find other libraries who want it and make a consortium bid. If the programmers can't take the whole job, they may be able to suggest ways of dividing it into smaller ones, or combining some small linked jobs into a larger one. Endless possibilities.
-- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef@jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
On 2003-12-23 02:04:53 +0000 ed sharpe <esharpe@uswest.net> wrote:
perhaps we could also hope that there are some programmers on this project for purely altruistic reasons and not trying to milk $$ from each line of code.... sometimes things need to get done just for the pure reason they need to get done....
I am quite uphappy about this email. I may as well write that "we could also hope that there are some librarians who work for purely altruistic reasons and not trying to milk $$ from each collection". We all know that programmers need money to live, just like librarians, so why be so hostile to the idea? Library free software interests me. There are some libraries which are real assets to their communities and could benefit from it, but I have no grant funding any more. I have to make money to live and koha-based projects are part of that. There is a lot of koha work that I do for free, including things that "need to get done" but no-one will pay for. I cannot afford to help everyone for free, so I pick a few things at a time which look like fun, good ideas and worthwhile. I hope that someone appreciates it, even if you don't. The paid work is on top of that, extra to the time that I would spend on koha anyway. If we've no paid work on koha, that time gets filled with other paid work because it has to be. Payment brings extra programmer time to koha. (Don't worry about my email writing: I type very quickly.) Those priorities are determined by what the payer wants, so if your idea doesn't get worked on for free and it's important to you, consider trying it commercially. Maybe smecc can't afford to do that. I can't find details about staff or funding on its web site. Off the top of my head, I can't recall what they contributed or offered to koha. A quick search for smecc on the lists gives the LoC request many times, including some BLOCK CAPS SHOUTING, links to other projects, and an unhelpful "we're not using koha" reply to a survey, cc'd to the developers (to annoy them?). I think people wanting free help need to be more open about their institution and reasons, and nicer to potential helpers. I suspect it will be the same with any of Pat's suggested groups. No-one donates to people who offend them, even a charity.
(remember folks to make it print out the library of congress catalog number instead of the Dewey number it is just one field you are dealing with! )
I don't know/remember what's required for this. I probably won't do it unless I need it, because I've other things to do and it now makes me think of this unhappy exchange. I think you should reconsider your methods of motivating people. Maybe you can find out what has to be done and record it on bug report 498. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef@jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/
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Pat Eyler -
paul POULAIN -
Rosalie Blake