Where would I put the OpenLibrary ID in the MARC record
Gentlefolk I'm using the Openlibrary cover facility to display covers in my OPAC and it generally works very well (in the case where the cover doesn't exist in Openlibrary I scan and upload it). However, if the Biblio record doesn't have an ISBN or LCCN the cover lookup fails (obviously). Is there any way of recording the Openlibrary ID (OLID) in a Biblio record so that the cover lookup will work, even if there is no ISBN or LCCN? I've done a (fairly cursory) scan of the documentation but can't find and reference to where I should put the OLID so that Koha will look up the cover even if there is no ISBN or LCCN. Of course the facility may not exist, in which case I'd be grateful for confirmation from Someone Who Knows. Many thanks Nigel Titley
Just to give an example of an OpenLibrary record that I created earlier today https://openlibrary.org/books/OL49198571M/Analogue_Men#details If at all possible I'd like to be able to display the cover using the OLID (OL49198571M) but I'm not sure where to put it. Thanks Nigel On 20/07/2023 22:43, Nigel Titley wrote:
Gentlefolk
I'm using the Openlibrary cover facility to display covers in my OPAC and it generally works very well (in the case where the cover doesn't exist in Openlibrary I scan and upload it). However, if the Biblio record doesn't have an ISBN or LCCN the cover lookup fails (obviously). Is there any way of recording the Openlibrary ID (OLID) in a Biblio record so that the cover lookup will work, even if there is no ISBN or LCCN?
I've done a (fairly cursory) scan of the documentation but can't find and reference to where I should put the OLID so that Koha will look up the cover even if there is no ISBN or LCCN. Of course the facility may not exist, in which case I'd be grateful for confirmation from Someone Who Knows.
Many thanks
Nigel Titley
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Dear Good Morning If you know the method that how to import books data from open library please let me know. Regards Dr. Jan On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 3:21 PM Nigel Titley <nigel@titley.com> wrote:
Just to give an example of an OpenLibrary record that I created earlier today
https://openlibrary.org/books/OL49198571M/Analogue_Men#details
If at all possible I'd like to be able to display the cover using the OLID (OL49198571M) but I'm not sure where to put it.
Thanks
Nigel
On 20/07/2023 22:43, Nigel Titley wrote:
Gentlefolk
I'm using the Openlibrary cover facility to display covers in my OPAC and it generally works very well (in the case where the cover doesn't exist in Openlibrary I scan and upload it). However, if the Biblio record doesn't have an ISBN or LCCN the cover lookup fails (obviously). Is there any way of recording the Openlibrary ID (OLID) in a Biblio record so that the cover lookup will work, even if there is no ISBN or LCCN?
I've done a (fairly cursory) scan of the documentation but can't find and reference to where I should put the OLID so that Koha will look up the cover even if there is no ISBN or LCCN. Of course the facility may not exist, in which case I'd be grateful for confirmation from Someone Who Knows.
Many thanks
Nigel Titley
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There doesn't appear to be any method to import books from OpenLibrary and nor would I use it if it was available as the data is not reliable. However for book covers it's quite useful. If you want to import books data then why not use one of the very many free, reliable Z39.50 sources available. We use the British Library, the Bodlean and the Library of Congress. Best regards Nigel On 21/07/2023 04:21, Tahir Jan, Assistant Librarian, Central Library, UoP wrote:
Dear Good Morning If you know the method that how to import books data from open library please let me know.
Regards Dr. Jan
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 3:21 PM Nigel Titley <nigel@titley.com> wrote:
Just to give an example of an OpenLibrary record that I created earlier today
https://openlibrary.org/books/OL49198571M/Analogue_Men#details
If at all possible I'd like to be able to display the cover using the OLID (OL49198571M) but I'm not sure where to put it.
Thanks
Nigel
On 20/07/2023 22:43, Nigel Titley wrote:
Gentlefolk
I'm using the Openlibrary cover facility to display covers in my OPAC and it generally works very well (in the case where the cover doesn't exist in Openlibrary I scan and upload it). However, if the Biblio record doesn't have an ISBN or LCCN the cover lookup fails (obviously). Is there any way of recording the Openlibrary ID (OLID) in a Biblio record so that the cover lookup will work, even if there is no ISBN or LCCN?
I've done a (fairly cursory) scan of the documentation but can't find and reference to where I should put the OLID so that Koha will look up the cover even if there is no ISBN or LCCN. Of course the facility may not exist, in which case I'd be grateful for confirmation from Someone Who Knows.
Many thanks
Nigel Titley
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Furthur on this and reading a bit more into MARC it looks like the information would go into MARC Field 024 with a source of 8. If there was a defined Standard Identifier for Openlibrary then the source would be 7 with the defined Standard Identifier for Openlibrary, but there isn't. I'm straying into Real Librarian Territory here and I'm starting to feel a little lost (I'm really just a programmer). If the person who wrote the code for fetching covers from Openlibrary is around I'd be grateful if they could confirm/deny what their code does (or even point me to where I could look it up myself). To this end I've copied in the Koha Development community. Or I may be barking up an entirely wrong tree. In which case feel free to say "Down boy, down". Nigel On 20/07/2023 23:20, Nigel Titley wrote:
Just to give an example of an OpenLibrary record that I created earlier today
https://openlibrary.org/books/OL49198571M/Analogue_Men#details
If at all possible I'd like to be able to display the cover using the OLID (OL49198571M) but I'm not sure where to put it.
Thanks
Nigel
On 20/07/2023 22:43, Nigel Titley wrote:
Gentlefolk
I'm using the Openlibrary cover facility to display covers in my OPAC and it generally works very well (in the case where the cover doesn't exist in Openlibrary I scan and upload it). However, if the Biblio record doesn't have an ISBN or LCCN the cover lookup fails (obviously). Is there any way of recording the Openlibrary ID (OLID) in a Biblio record so that the cover lookup will work, even if there is no ISBN or LCCN?
I've done a (fairly cursory) scan of the documentation but can't find and reference to where I should put the OLID so that Koha will look up the cover even if there is no ISBN or LCCN. Of course the facility may not exist, in which case I'd be grateful for confirmation from Someone Who Knows.
Many thanks
Nigel Titley
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Looks like it's only using the ISBN. The code is in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/js/openlibrary.js https://gitlab.com/koha-community/Koha/-/blob/master/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/boo... and opac-results: 899 [% IF OpenLibraryCovers %]KOHA.OpenLibrary.GetCoverFromIsbn();[% END %] Le ven. 21 juil. 2023 à 13:03, Nigel Titley <nigel@titley.com> a écrit :
Furthur on this and reading a bit more into MARC it looks like the information would go into MARC Field 024 with a source of 8. If there was a defined Standard Identifier for Openlibrary then the source would be 7 with the defined Standard Identifier for Openlibrary, but there isn't.
I'm straying into Real Librarian Territory here and I'm starting to feel a little lost (I'm really just a programmer). If the person who wrote the code for fetching covers from Openlibrary is around I'd be grateful if they could confirm/deny what their code does (or even point me to where I could look it up myself). To this end I've copied in the Koha Development community.
Or I may be barking up an entirely wrong tree. In which case feel free to say "Down boy, down".
Nigel
On 20/07/2023 23:20, Nigel Titley wrote:
Just to give an example of an OpenLibrary record that I created earlier today
https://openlibrary.org/books/OL49198571M/Analogue_Men#details
If at all possible I'd like to be able to display the cover using the OLID (OL49198571M) but I'm not sure where to put it.
Thanks
Nigel
On 20/07/2023 22:43, Nigel Titley wrote:
Gentlefolk
I'm using the Openlibrary cover facility to display covers in my OPAC and it generally works very well (in the case where the cover doesn't exist in Openlibrary I scan and upload it). However, if the Biblio record doesn't have an ISBN or LCCN the cover lookup fails (obviously). Is there any way of recording the Openlibrary ID (OLID) in a Biblio record so that the cover lookup will work, even if there is no ISBN or LCCN?
I've done a (fairly cursory) scan of the documentation but can't find and reference to where I should put the OLID so that Koha will look up the cover even if there is no ISBN or LCCN. Of course the facility may not exist, in which case I'd be grateful for confirmation from Someone Who Knows.
Many thanks
Nigel Titley
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Thanks for the response... makes sense to use the ISBN and it explains the observed behaviour. I've had a look at the code. One of these days I'll blow the dust off my JS manuals and see if I can do something to extend the code (JS isn't my favourite language and I've probably not written any for about 15 years). Is my supposition about where it would go in the MARC record correct? Thanks Nigel On 21/07/2023 12:29, Jonathan Druart wrote:
Looks like it's only using the ISBN. The code is in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/js/openlibrary.js
https://gitlab.com/koha-community/Koha/-/blob/master/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/boo...
and opac-results: 899 [% IF OpenLibraryCovers %]KOHA.OpenLibrary.GetCoverFromIsbn();[% END %]
Le ven. 21 juil. 2023 à 13:03, Nigel Titley <nigel@titley.com> a écrit :
Furthur on this and reading a bit more into MARC it looks like the information would go into MARC Field 024 with a source of 8. If there was a defined Standard Identifier for Openlibrary then the source would be 7 with the defined Standard Identifier for Openlibrary, but there isn't.
I'm straying into Real Librarian Territory here and I'm starting to feel a little lost (I'm really just a programmer). If the person who wrote the code for fetching covers from Openlibrary is around I'd be grateful if they could confirm/deny what their code does (or even point me to where I could look it up myself). To this end I've copied in the Koha Development community.
Or I may be barking up an entirely wrong tree. In which case feel free to say "Down boy, down".
Nigel
On 20/07/2023 23:20, Nigel Titley wrote:
Just to give an example of an OpenLibrary record that I created earlier today
https://openlibrary.org/books/OL49198571M/Analogue_Men#details
If at all possible I'd like to be able to display the cover using the OLID (OL49198571M) but I'm not sure where to put it.
Thanks
Nigel
On 20/07/2023 22:43, Nigel Titley wrote:
Gentlefolk
I'm using the Openlibrary cover facility to display covers in my OPAC and it generally works very well (in the case where the cover doesn't exist in Openlibrary I scan and upload it). However, if the Biblio record doesn't have an ISBN or LCCN the cover lookup fails (obviously). Is there any way of recording the Openlibrary ID (OLID) in a Biblio record so that the cover lookup will work, even if there is no ISBN or LCCN?
I've done a (fairly cursory) scan of the documentation but can't find and reference to where I should put the OLID so that Koha will look up the cover even if there is no ISBN or LCCN. Of course the facility may not exist, in which case I'd be grateful for confirmation from Someone Who Knows.
Many thanks
Nigel Titley
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No idea, I'm really just a programmer ;) Le ven. 21 juil. 2023 à 14:06, Nigel Titley <nigel@titley.com> a écrit :
Thanks for the response... makes sense to use the ISBN and it explains the observed behaviour.
I've had a look at the code. One of these days I'll blow the dust off my JS manuals and see if I can do something to extend the code (JS isn't my favourite language and I've probably not written any for about 15 years).
Is my supposition about where it would go in the MARC record correct?
Thanks
Nigel
On 21/07/2023 12:29, Jonathan Druart wrote:
Looks like it's only using the ISBN. The code is in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/js/openlibrary.js
https://gitlab.com/koha-community/Koha/-/blob/master/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/boo...
and opac-results: 899 [% IF OpenLibraryCovers %]KOHA.OpenLibrary.GetCoverFromIsbn();[% END %]
Le ven. 21 juil. 2023 à 13:03, Nigel Titley <nigel@titley.com> a écrit :
Furthur on this and reading a bit more into MARC it looks like the information would go into MARC Field 024 with a source of 8. If there was a defined Standard Identifier for Openlibrary then the source would be 7 with the defined Standard Identifier for Openlibrary, but there isn't.
I'm straying into Real Librarian Territory here and I'm starting to feel a little lost (I'm really just a programmer). If the person who wrote the code for fetching covers from Openlibrary is around I'd be grateful if they could confirm/deny what their code does (or even point me to where I could look it up myself). To this end I've copied in the Koha Development community.
Or I may be barking up an entirely wrong tree. In which case feel free to say "Down boy, down".
Nigel
On 20/07/2023 23:20, Nigel Titley wrote:
Just to give an example of an OpenLibrary record that I created earlier today
https://openlibrary.org/books/OL49198571M/Analogue_Men#details
If at all possible I'd like to be able to display the cover using the OLID (OL49198571M) but I'm not sure where to put it.
Thanks
Nigel
On 20/07/2023 22:43, Nigel Titley wrote:
Gentlefolk
I'm using the Openlibrary cover facility to display covers in my OPAC and it generally works very well (in the case where the cover doesn't exist in Openlibrary I scan and upload it). However, if the Biblio record doesn't have an ISBN or LCCN the cover lookup fails (obviously). Is there any way of recording the Openlibrary ID (OLID) in a Biblio record so that the cover lookup will work, even if there is no ISBN or LCCN?
I've done a (fairly cursory) scan of the documentation but can't find and reference to where I should put the OLID so that Koha will look up the cover even if there is no ISBN or LCCN. Of course the facility may not exist, in which case I'd be grateful for confirmation from Someone Who Knows.
Many thanks
Nigel Titley
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Understood. I'm sure that a Real Librarian (tm) will answer at some point. Thanks anyway Nigel On 21/07/2023 13:20, Jonathan Druart wrote:
No idea, I'm really just a programmer ;)
Le ven. 21 juil. 2023 à 14:06, Nigel Titley <nigel@titley.com> a écrit :
Thanks for the response... makes sense to use the ISBN and it explains the observed behaviour.
I've had a look at the code. One of these days I'll blow the dust off my JS manuals and see if I can do something to extend the code (JS isn't my favourite language and I've probably not written any for about 15 years).
Is my supposition about where it would go in the MARC record correct?
Thanks
Nigel
On 21/07/2023 12:29, Jonathan Druart wrote:
Looks like it's only using the ISBN. The code is in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/js/openlibrary.js
https://gitlab.com/koha-community/Koha/-/blob/master/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/boo...
and opac-results: 899 [% IF OpenLibraryCovers %]KOHA.OpenLibrary.GetCoverFromIsbn();[% END %]
Le ven. 21 juil. 2023 à 13:03, Nigel Titley <nigel@titley.com> a écrit :
Furthur on this and reading a bit more into MARC it looks like the information would go into MARC Field 024 with a source of 8. If there was a defined Standard Identifier for Openlibrary then the source would be 7 with the defined Standard Identifier for Openlibrary, but there isn't.
I'm straying into Real Librarian Territory here and I'm starting to feel a little lost (I'm really just a programmer). If the person who wrote the code for fetching covers from Openlibrary is around I'd be grateful if they could confirm/deny what their code does (or even point me to where I could look it up myself). To this end I've copied in the Koha Development community.
Or I may be barking up an entirely wrong tree. In which case feel free to say "Down boy, down".
Nigel
On 20/07/2023 23:20, Nigel Titley wrote:
Just to give an example of an OpenLibrary record that I created earlier today
https://openlibrary.org/books/OL49198571M/Analogue_Men#details
If at all possible I'd like to be able to display the cover using the OLID (OL49198571M) but I'm not sure where to put it.
Thanks
Nigel
On 20/07/2023 22:43, Nigel Titley wrote:
Gentlefolk
I'm using the Openlibrary cover facility to display covers in my OPAC and it generally works very well (in the case where the cover doesn't exist in Openlibrary I scan and upload it). However, if the Biblio record doesn't have an ISBN or LCCN the cover lookup fails (obviously). Is there any way of recording the Openlibrary ID (OLID) in a Biblio record so that the cover lookup will work, even if there is no ISBN or LCCN?
I've done a (fairly cursory) scan of the documentation but can't find and reference to where I should put the OLID so that Koha will look up the cover even if there is no ISBN or LCCN. Of course the facility may not exist, in which case I'd be grateful for confirmation from Someone Who Knows.
Many thanks
Nigel Titley
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