Patron Cards and Book labels: 3.06 -- How are people printing them?
Hello Everyone, Printing Spine label and patron cards: I started working on this in May and 3.06 is still the preferred stable version. I've seen two posts that say to wait for 3.2. I've installed in various configurations (now have Thai lang with marc-21; strange, but it seems to work for input and searching).d I can't get any of the label options to work (English lang mostly) for books or patrons (at least not more than minimally -- I can get a barcode graphically and as text, but that's it. (Oh, and a nice red box around the items. Nothing I do to customize (choose what's on the label) has any effect. Finally, I can't get the export to csv to work to try it. Apologies for not seeing it if it's obvious, but now I would like to ask for suggestions. Am I wrong or is this just not working? How are people getting their labels and patron cards done in 3.06? -- *http://iteachnet.org *http://flossed.org *http://ischoolnet.org *Web Ideas, Tools and Sites for Teachers, Schools, and You. *Cell: +66(0*)84 329 1183; Office: +66(0*)2 980 9464 (*No "0" if calling from overseas.) ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Hi David, On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:24 PM, David M. Bucknell <dbucknell@iteachnet.org
wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Printing Spine label and patron cards: I started working on this in May and 3.06 is still the preferred stable version. I've seen two posts that say to wait for 3.2.
3.2 includes a complete re-write of the label and card creator code. So waiting is probably the thing to do.
I've installed in various configurations (now have Thai lang with marc-21; strange, but it seems to work for input and searching).d
I can't get any of the label options to work (English lang mostly) for books or patrons (at least not more than minimally -- I can get a barcode graphically and as text, but that's it. (Oh, and a nice red box around the items. Nothing I do to customize (choose what's on the label) has any effect.
Label printing is pretty broken when it comes to unicode support. The short of it is that the pdf standard is not unicode friendly. This is true of 3.2 as well. Having said that, we printed several thousand English (and a few Spanish) labels with the 3.0.x labels code. So it will work for English and probably some other Latin based alphabets.
Finally, I can't get the export to csv to work to try it.
I'm not sure what might be going on here.
Apologies for not seeing it if it's obvious, but now I would like to ask for suggestions. Am I wrong or is this just not working? How are people getting their labels and patron cards done in 3.06?
The patron card code in 3.0.x is basically inflexible as many of the settings are hard coded. You will have to wait for 3.2 stable or go ahead and grab 3.2 alpha2 or the latest development master from http://git.koha-community.org/koha.git Kind Regards, Chris
Hi Chris, Many thanks for this careful reply. I can only get barcodes and numbers to print -- no titles. As you say, it is hard-coded. In that it is hard-coded, I'm wondering what you or anyone else in real-working libraries, who have already upgraded to this version (3.06), are doing as work-arounds. After all a sheet of bar codes without book titles or patron names (as the case may be) is not as useful as it could be. I appreciate your help very much. Sincerely, David ----- Message from cnighswonger@foundations.edu --------- Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:27:26 -0400 From: Chris Nighswonger <cnighswonger@foundations.edu> Reply-To: Chris Nighswonger <cnighswonger@foundations.edu> Subject: Re: [Koha] Patron Cards and Book labels: 3.06 -- How are people printing them? To: david@intknowledge.com Cc: koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz>
Hi David,
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:24 PM, David M. Bucknell <dbucknell@iteachnet.org
wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Printing Spine label and patron cards: I started working on this in May and 3.06 is still the preferred stable version. I've seen two posts that say to wait for 3.2.
3.2 includes a complete re-write of the label and card creator code. So waiting is probably the thing to do.
I've installed in various configurations (now have Thai lang with marc-21; strange, but it seems to work for input and searching).d
I can't get any of the label options to work (English lang mostly) for books or patrons (at least not more than minimally -- I can get a barcode graphically and as text, but that's it. (Oh, and a nice red box around the items. Nothing I do to customize (choose what's on the label) has any effect.
Label printing is pretty broken when it comes to unicode support. The short of it is that the pdf standard is not unicode friendly. This is true of 3.2 as well.
Having said that, we printed several thousand English (and a few Spanish) labels with the 3.0.x labels code. So it will work for English and probably some other Latin based alphabets.
Finally, I can't get the export to csv to work to try it.
I'm not sure what might be going on here.
Apologies for not seeing it if it's obvious, but now I would like to ask for suggestions. Am I wrong or is this just not working? How are people getting their labels and patron cards done in 3.06?
The patron card code in 3.0.x is basically inflexible as many of the settings are hard coded. You will have to wait for 3.2 stable or go ahead and grab 3.2 alpha2 or the latest development master from http://git.koha-community.org/koha.git
Kind Regards, Chris
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If there is someone who would be willing to jury-rig patron card and spine label printing ... write a script ... I'd be willing to compensate hourly costs. I haven't heard from anyone except Chris, who is a contributing programmer, I take it, so I guess everyone else has either an on-site team or is paying a provider. 3.06 seems pretty cool and there is really no alternative, so if anyone is willing to help for some cash via paypal, it would be worth it to me. I have three installations that need this, none of which have a budget, but all of them hell-bent on Koha because of me. Let me know if you can help, please. Thank you, David ----- Message from cnighswonger@foundations.edu --------- Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:27:26 -0400 From: Chris Nighswonger <cnighswonger@foundations.edu> Reply-To: Chris Nighswonger <cnighswonger@foundations.edu> Subject: Re: [Koha] Patron Cards and Book labels: 3.06 -- How are people printing them? To: david@intknowledge.com Cc: koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz>
Hi David,
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:24 PM, David M. Bucknell <dbucknell@iteachnet.org
wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Printing Spine label and patron cards: I started working on this in May and 3.06 is still the preferred stable version. I've seen two posts that say to wait for 3.2.
3.2 includes a complete re-write of the label and card creator code. So waiting is probably the thing to do.
I've installed in various configurations (now have Thai lang with marc-21; strange, but it seems to work for input and searching).d
I can't get any of the label options to work (English lang mostly) for books or patrons (at least not more than minimally -- I can get a barcode graphically and as text, but that's it. (Oh, and a nice red box around the items. Nothing I do to customize (choose what's on the label) has any effect.
Label printing is pretty broken when it comes to unicode support. The short of it is that the pdf standard is not unicode friendly. This is true of 3.2 as well.
Having said that, we printed several thousand English (and a few Spanish) labels with the 3.0.x labels code. So it will work for English and probably some other Latin based alphabets.
Finally, I can't get the export to csv to work to try it.
I'm not sure what might be going on here.
Apologies for not seeing it if it's obvious, but now I would like to ask for suggestions. Am I wrong or is this just not working? How are people getting their labels and patron cards done in 3.06?
The patron card code in 3.0.x is basically inflexible as many of the settings are hard coded. You will have to wait for 3.2 stable or go ahead and grab 3.2 alpha2 or the latest development master from http://git.koha-community.org/koha.git
Kind Regards, Chris
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* David M. Bucknell (dbucknell@iteachnet.org) wrote:
If there is someone who would be willing to jury-rig patron card and spine label printing ... write a script ... I'd be willing to compensate hourly costs.
I haven't heard from anyone except Chris, who is a contributing programmer, I take it, so I guess everyone else has either an on-site team or is paying a provider. 3.06 seems pretty cool and there is really no alternative, so if anyone is willing to help for some cash via paypal, it would be worth it to me. I have three installations that need this, none of which have a budget, but all of them hell-bent on Koha because of me.
Let me know if you can help, please.
Hi David If these are new Koha installs, I would strongly suggest installing from either the debian packages, or the git master branch. As Chris Nighswonger (who wrote the labels code) has said, it has been totally rewritten for 3.2.0 (it's 3.0.6 btw) so you are much better off installing that. Quite a few libraries, including Horowhenua Library Trust the original Koha library, are running what is very soon to be 3.2.0 in production. So I would class that as a real alternative, and in fact a better alternative to installing 3.0.6 and having some one off customised and not reusable work done. Chris -- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand
Dear Chris, (Sorry moderator. I sent previous version from the wrong username. Resending.) Ok, that's very clear. You're saying 3.2, despite not being stable, is safe-enough. Thank you. David ----- Message from chrisc@catalyst.net.nz --------- Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:25:44 +1200 From: Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz> Reply-To: Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz> Subject: Re: [Koha] Seeking programmer: Patron Cards and Book labels: 3.06 -- How are people printing them? To: david@intknowledge.com Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz, koha-devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org>
* David M. Bucknell (dbucknell@iteachnet.org) wrote:
If there is someone who would be willing to jury-rig patron card and spine label printing ... write a script ... I'd be willing to compensate hourly costs.
I haven't heard from anyone except Chris, who is a contributing programmer, I take it, so I guess everyone else has either an on-site team or is paying a provider. 3.06 seems pretty cool and there is really no alternative, so if anyone is willing to help for some cash via paypal, it would be worth it to me. I have three installations that need this, none of which have a budget, but all of them hell-bent on Koha because of me.
Let me know if you can help, please.
Hi David
If these are new Koha installs, I would strongly suggest installing from either the debian packages, or the git master branch.
As Chris Nighswonger (who wrote the labels code) has said, it has been totally rewritten for 3.2.0 (it's 3.0.6 btw) so you are much better off installing that.
Quite a few libraries, including Horowhenua Library Trust the original Koha library, are running what is very soon to be 3.2.0 in production.
So I would class that as a real alternative, and in fact a better alternative to installing 3.0.6 and having some one off customised and not reusable work done.
Chris
-- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand
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Hi David, On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:02 AM, David M. Bucknell <dbucknell@iteachnet.org>wrote:
If there is someone who would be willing to jury-rig patron card and spine label printing ... write a script ... I'd be willing to compensate hourly costs.
I haven't heard from anyone except Chris, who is a contributing programmer, I take it, so I guess everyone else has either an on-site team or is paying a provider. 3.06 seems pretty cool and there is really no alternative, so if anyone is willing to help for some cash via paypal, it would be worth it to me. I have three installations that need this, none of which have a budget, but all of them hell-bent on Koha because of me.
Why don't you just upgrade to the current beta of Koha 3.2? There are several libraries, including ours, that have been running over this code for months now. It seems a bit counter productive to pay money for a feature that will die in a couple of weeks anyway. Kind Regards, Chris
----- Message from cnighswonger@foundations.edu --------- Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:27:26 -0400 From: Chris Nighswonger <cnighswonger@foundations.edu> Reply-To: Chris Nighswonger <cnighswonger@foundations.edu> Subject: Re: [Koha] Patron Cards and Book labels: 3.06 -- How are people printing them? To: david@intknowledge.com Cc: koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz>
Hi David,
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:24 PM, David M. Bucknell < dbucknell@iteachnet.org
wrote:
Hello Everyone,
Printing Spine label and patron cards: I started working on this in May and 3.06 is still the preferred stable version. I've seen two posts that say to wait for 3.2.
3.2 includes a complete re-write of the label and card creator code. So waiting is probably the thing to do.
I've installed in various configurations (now have Thai lang with marc-21; strange, but it seems to work for input and searching).d
I can't get any of the label options to work (English lang mostly) for books or patrons (at least not more than minimally -- I can get a barcode graphically and as text, but that's it. (Oh, and a nice red box around the items. Nothing I do to customize (choose what's on the label) has any effect.
Label printing is pretty broken when it comes to unicode support. The short of it is that the pdf standard is not unicode friendly. This is true of 3.2 as well.
Having said that, we printed several thousand English (and a few Spanish) labels with the 3.0.x labels code. So it will work for English and probably some other Latin based alphabets.
Finally, I can't get the export to csv to work to try it.
I'm not sure what might be going on here.
Apologies for not seeing it if it's obvious, but now I would like to ask for suggestions. Am I wrong or is this just not working? How are people getting their labels and patron cards done in 3.06?
The patron card code in 3.0.x is basically inflexible as many of the settings are hard coded. You will have to wait for 3.2 stable or go ahead and grab 3.2 alpha2 or the latest development master from http://git.koha-community.org/koha.git
Kind Regards, Chris
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