Nonfiling characters and sorting
I'm not sure if it's just our catalogue, so would ask for confirmation (or denial) by others before exploring further. In both OPAC and staff interface, the "sort" drop-down defaults to 'relevance', but for longer pages users and staff sort by 'title A-Z'. Normally a biblio with a 245 second indicator set to, say, 4 drops 'the ' (3 chars and space), but we are finding that it does *not* drop German articles such as 'der ' and 'die ' Example: <http://opac.navalmarinearchive.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=au&q=nowarra&sort_by=title_az:> which has both English and German usage. Has anyone else noticed this? Thanks -- Paul
Hi, Paul-- Our catalog does the same thing! I confirmed that all the titles sorting on "Die..." have a second indicator of "4" in the 245 field, so should be sorting on the second word of those titles, but they are not--they're sorting on that first character of the definite article: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=ccl%3Dti%252Cphr%253Aschiffe&sort_by=title_az&addto= Thanks for calling this to our attention! I looked, but couldn't find anything about it in the Bugzilla--maybe someone else with better search skills can find something? Best, heather ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez Technical Services Librarian Cultural Resources and Museum Management Division San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park heather_hernandez@nps.gov 415-561-7032 (voice) 415-556-3540 (fax) http://www.nps.gov/safr/historyculture/library-collections.htm "The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail."--Gustaf Lindborg
I'm guessing this is due to the Zebra sorting definition file, etc/zebradb/lang_defs/en/sort-string-utf.chr in the Koha source. The English language one maps "The ", "A " and "An " into a non-sorting tokens, but does nothing to anything else. Mapping "Die " away is a bit problematic... -- Ystävällisin terveisin Pasi Kallinen ICT-asiantuntija p. 0400-139747 pasi.kallinen@pttk.fi Pohjois-Karjalan Tietotekniikkakeskus Oy - www.pttk.fi ________________________________________ From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] on behalf of Paul A [paul.a@navalmarinearchive.com] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 23:47 To: Koha list Subject: [Koha] Nonfiling characters and sorting I'm not sure if it's just our catalogue, so would ask for confirmation (or denial) by others before exploring further. In both OPAC and staff interface, the "sort" drop-down defaults to 'relevance', but for longer pages users and staff sort by 'title A-Z'. Normally a biblio with a 245 second indicator set to, say, 4 drops 'the ' (3 chars and space), but we are finding that it does *not* drop German articles such as 'der ' and 'die ' Example: <http://opac.navalmarinearchive.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=au&q=nowarra&sort_by=title_az:> which has both English and German usage. Has anyone else noticed this? Thanks -- Paul _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Kallinen Pasi <Pasi.Kallinen@pttk.fi>wrote: I'm guessing this is due to the Zebra sorting definition file, etc/zebradb/lang_defs/en/sort-
string-utf.chr in the Koha source. The English language one maps "The ", "A " and "An " into a non-sorting tokens, but does nothing to anything else. Mapping "Die " away is a bit problematic...
Well, it's also problematic if you have French books about tea (thé)! Cheerio, heather ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez Technical Services Librarian Cultural Resources and Museum Management Division San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park heather_hernandez@nps.gov 415-561-7032 (voice) 415-556-3540 (fax) http://www.nps.gov/safr/historyculture/library-collections.htm "The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail."--Gustaf Lindborg
Why not mapping "Die " away ? It is only for sorting, not for searching. Le 18/03/2014 07:31, Kallinen Pasi a écrit :
I'm guessing this is due to the Zebra sorting definition file, etc/zebradb/lang_defs/en/sort-string-utf.chr in the Koha source. The English language one maps "The ", "A " and "An " into a non-sorting tokens, but does nothing to anything else. Mapping "Die " away is a bit problematic...
-- Ystävällisin terveisin
Pasi Kallinen ICT-asiantuntija
p. 0400-139747 pasi.kallinen@pttk.fi
Pohjois-Karjalan Tietotekniikkakeskus Oy - www.pttk.fi
________________________________________ From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] on behalf of Paul A [paul.a@navalmarinearchive.com] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 23:47 To: Koha list Subject: [Koha] Nonfiling characters and sorting
I'm not sure if it's just our catalogue, so would ask for confirmation (or denial) by others before exploring further.
In both OPAC and staff interface, the "sort" drop-down defaults to 'relevance', but for longer pages users and staff sort by 'title A-Z'. Normally a biblio with a 245 second indicator set to, say, 4 drops 'the ' (3 chars and space), but we are finding that it does *not* drop German articles such as 'der ' and 'die '
Example: <http://opac.navalmarinearchive.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=au&q=nowarra&sort_by=title_az:> which has both English and German usage.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Thanks -- Paul
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