I am very interested in an ILL module for Koha. Is anyone working on this module? And my library even has money to contribute. Lenora Lenora A. Oftedahl StreamNet Regional Librarian Columbia River Inter-Tribal Fish Commission http://www.fishlib.org
Hi, Lenora et al! I am very interested in an ILL module too - having worked as an ILL librarian for several years it's one of the very few things that stand out as "missing" in Koha, in my eyes. I also think that Norwegian librarians are used to having this functionality integrated into their ILS, as opposed to et least some other countries, where I understand that the norm is to deal with this functionality outside of the ILS. Unfortunately, here in Norway we have our very own ILL standard or protocol, called NILL, which is documented, in Norwegian only, here: http://www.biblev.no/nill/ Basically the protocol consists of a set of XML messages that are passed between systems over e-mail(!). Now, NILL may or may not be of interest to libraries outside Norway, but I am thinking that at least some functionality will be of common interest, and that there could be a choice of different protocols, or an easy way to adapt the core functionality to different protocols. I am but a tiny vendor trying to attract my first customers, but I certainly hope to be able to find a library that could be interested enough in Koha to be willing to sponsor some work on ILL and NILL. In the meantime I am more than willing to contribute time and any knowledge on the subject that I may have, in order to help Koha get an ILL module up and running. Regards, Magnus Enger libriotech.no On 9 February 2010 18:45, Lenora Oftedahl <OFTL@critfc.org> wrote:
I am very interested in an ILL module for Koha. Is anyone working on this module? And my library even has money to contribute.
Lenora
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Hi all, We have been thinking about developing Interlibrary loans for Koha. We have a couple of prospective customers that are currently using ILL on their existing systems and a few customers who are likely to be interested. We have not worked out a spec yet or the funding, but have been discussing doing so. Folks here developed the Interlibrary Loans for Unicorn in the UK so we have some experience of developing this and understanding the workflow. That was done with the Unicorn API and without access to the source code, so it can only be easier on Koha. The UK libraries make much use of the British Library Document Supply Service but also often interlend between institutions. Both of these are often required or highly desirable by UK libraries. Is there any more interest out there? All the best. Ian On 10/02/2010 09:15, Magnus Enger wrote:
Hi, Lenora et al!
I am very interested in an ILL module too - having worked as an ILL librarian for several years it's one of the very few things that stand out as "missing" in Koha, in my eyes. I also think that Norwegian librarians are used to having this functionality integrated into their ILS, as opposed to et least some other countries, where I understand that the norm is to deal with this functionality outside of the ILS.
Unfortunately, here in Norway we have our very own ILL standard or protocol, called NILL, which is documented, in Norwegian only, here: http://www.biblev.no/nill/ Basically the protocol consists of a set of XML messages that are passed between systems over e-mail(!).
Now, NILL may or may not be of interest to libraries outside Norway, but I am thinking that at least some functionality will be of common interest, and that there could be a choice of different protocols, or an easy way to adapt the core functionality to different protocols.
I am but a tiny vendor trying to attract my first customers, but I certainly hope to be able to find a library that could be interested enough in Koha to be willing to sponsor some work on ILL and NILL. In the meantime I am more than willing to contribute time and any knowledge on the subject that I may have, in order to help Koha get an ILL module up and running.
Regards, Magnus Enger libriotech.no
On 9 February 2010 18:45, Lenora Oftedahl<OFTL@critfc.org> wrote:
I am very interested in an ILL module for Koha. Is anyone working on this module? And my library even has money to contribute.
Lenora
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On 10 February 2010 11:13, Ian Bays <ian.bays@ptfs-europe.com> wrote: [snip]
The UK libraries make much use of the British Library Document Supply Service but also often interlend between institutions. Both of these are often required or highly desirable by UK libraries.
Just curious: what kind of protocol or other means of communication do they use for the interlending between institutions? Regards, Magnus Enger libriotech.no
In the UK, about 80-90% of requests go via the British Library. They use a format called ARTTel (it's a plain text format, pretty basic). There is a call for some other formats though, mainly a generic type letter and also the BMA (British Medical Association). ISOILL never really kicked off and we don't really hear of any call for this. I think, ideally, something where you could plugin extra formats would be ideal so that they could be added to on a regional basis or as the need arose. I know Spain and Denmark have regional formats. Jonathan On 10/02/2010 10:17, Magnus Enger wrote:
On 10 February 2010 11:13, Ian Bays<ian.bays@ptfs-europe.com> wrote: [snip]
The UK libraries make much use of the British Library Document Supply Service but also often interlend between institutions. Both of these are often required or highly desirable by UK libraries.
Just curious: what kind of protocol or other means of communication do they use for the interlending between institutions?
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There are NISO standards also for interchange - NCIP - SIP... Texas has just adopted a new ILL system based on OCLC which can allow independant USER ILL initiated requests, but it requires NCIP to do so. openncip.org - was a project that started at one time. I know for libraries in Texas to be completely self reliant and not require "batch uploads to OCLC if they are not members" they must have NCIP. Evergreen also is lacking this functionality - a great opportunity for two FOSS Systems to work together... David Schuster Jonathan Field wrote:
In the UK, about 80-90% of requests go via the British Library. They use a format called ARTTel (it's a plain text format, pretty basic). There is a call for some other formats though, mainly a generic type letter and also the BMA (British Medical Association). ISOILL never really kicked off and we don't really hear of any call for this.
I think, ideally, something where you could plugin extra formats would be ideal so that they could be added to on a regional basis or as the need arose. I know Spain and Denmark have regional formats.
Jonathan
On 10/02/2010 10:17, Magnus Enger wrote:
On 10 February 2010 11:13, Ian Bays<ian.bays@ptfs-europe.com> wrote: [snip]
The UK libraries make much use of the British Library Document Supply Service but also often interlend between institutions. Both of these are often required or highly desirable by UK libraries.
Just curious: what kind of protocol or other means of communication do they use for the interlending between institutions?
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On 11/02/10 15:05, David Schuster wrote:
There are NISO standards also for interchange - NCIP - SIP... Texas has just adopted a new ILL system based on OCLC which can allow independant USER ILL initiated requests, but it requires NCIP to do so.
openncip.org - was a project that started at one time.
(never lived up to its name) There is an opensource ncip toolkit
Might be worth a look for interfacing to. (I saw it mentioned on the Evergreen lists) Cheers Colin -- Colin Campbell Chief Software Engineer, PTFS Europe Limited Content Management and Library Solutions +44 (0) 208 366 1295 (phone) +44 (0) 7759 633626 (mobile) colin.campbell@ptfs-europe.com skype: colin_campbell2 http://www.ptfs-europe.com
The two who know this best are away for a couple of days on business but the simplest way was by use of emails with templates between institutions. The British Library have their own ARTEL service which has its own online protocol or you can communicate with it using emails formatted according to their rules. I understand that the implementation of ISO10160/1 never really took off. Ian On 10/02/2010 10:17, Magnus Enger wrote:
On 10 February 2010 11:13, Ian Bays<ian.bays@ptfs-europe.com> wrote: [snip]
The UK libraries make much use of the British Library Document Supply Service but also often interlend between institutions. Both of these are often required or highly desirable by UK libraries.
Just curious: what kind of protocol or other means of communication do they use for the interlending between institutions?
Regards, Magnus Enger libriotech.no
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Hi! I have taken the liberty of starting an RFC for 3.4 on the subject of ILL. Please add any relevant info! http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:inter_library_loan Regards, Magnus Enger libriotech.no On 10 February 2010 12:05, Ian Bays <ian.bays@ptfs-europe.com> wrote:
The two who know this best are away for a couple of days on business but the simplest way was by use of emails with templates between institutions. The British Library have their own ARTEL service which has its own online protocol or you can communicate with it using emails formatted according to their rules. I understand that the implementation of ISO10160/1 never really took off.
Ian On 10/02/2010 10:17, Magnus Enger wrote:
On 10 February 2010 11:13, Ian Bays<ian.bays@ptfs-europe.com> wrote: [snip]
The UK libraries make much use of the British Library Document Supply Service but also often interlend between institutions. Both of these are often required or highly desirable by UK libraries.
Just curious: what kind of protocol or other means of communication do they use for the interlending between institutions?
Regards, Magnus Enger libriotech.no
-- Ian Bays Director of Projects PTFS Europe.com mobile: +44 (0) 7774995297 phone: +44 (0) 800 756 6803 skype: ian.bays email: ian.bays@ptfs-europe.com
Salvete! http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnum... http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnum... Just sayin'. Brooke ----- Original Message ---- From: Ian Bays <ian.bays@ptfs-europe.com> To: Magnus Enger <magnus@enger.priv.no> Cc: KOHA <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz>; Lenora Oftedahl <OFTL@critfc.org> Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 6:05:31 AM Subject: Re: [Koha] Interlibrary loan module The two who know this best are away for a couple of days on business but the simplest way was by use of emails with templates between institutions. The British Library have their own ARTEL service which has its own online protocol or you can communicate with it using emails formatted according to their rules. I understand that the implementation of ISO10160/1 never really took off. Ian On 10/02/2010 10:17, Magnus Enger wrote:
On 10 February 2010 11:13, Ian Bays<ian.bays@ptfs-europe.com> wrote: [snip]
The UK libraries make much use of the British Library Document Supply Service but also often interlend between institutions. Both of these are often required or highly desirable by UK libraries.
Just curious: what kind of protocol or other means of communication do they use for the interlending between institutions?
Regards, Magnus Enger libriotech.no
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