cross-links in analytics
Hi, when a "Link to host item" is added to a constituent record, the appropriate 773 Marc datafield is created in the constituent record, and populated with the appropriate subfields referring to the host item. Then, the OPAC for the constituent record does show the link to the host record. The converse seems not to be the case, i.e. no corresponding 774 Marc datafield is created in the host record, and no link appears in the host record's OPAC. Is this a feature, is it my mistake, or a bug? Many thanks and best regards, Giuseppe. P.S. I am aware that this issue has been issued before (also in this mailing list), but I could not find an answer.
We manually input our 774 fields. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:13 AM, Giuseppe Angilella < Giuseppe.Angilella@ct.infn.it> wrote:
Hi,
when a "Link to host item" is added to a constituent record, the appropriate 773 Marc datafield is created in the constituent record, and populated with the appropriate subfields referring to the host item. Then, the OPAC for the constituent record does show the link to the host record.
The converse seems not to be the case, i.e. no corresponding 774 Marc datafield is created in the host record, and no link appears in the host record's OPAC.
Is this a feature, is it my mistake, or a bug?
Many thanks and best regards,
Giuseppe.
P.S. I am aware that this issue has been issued before (also in this mailing list), but I could not find an answer. _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Elaine Bradtke Data Wrangler VWML English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registered Company No. 297142 Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
Perhaps I misunderstood the question. Our 773 links (from child /constituent part record to parent/host work in the OPAC The 774 links don't (from parent/host to child/constituent part) do not work in the OPAC, (or staff interface). In fact, they won't even display, even with the subfield settings set to display in OPAC and staff interface. In our case, this doesn't matter too much because the link from constituent part to host is more important - at least for our users. The host record gives information on location and availability, etc. and has a 520 field to list all the constituent parts. But it would be nice if the 774 fields worked as they should. On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:30 AM, Giuseppe Angilella < Giuseppe.Angilella@ct.infn.it> wrote:
Dear Elaine,
thank you very much for your kind feedback.
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014, Elaine Bradtke wrote:
We manually input our 774 fields.
That's ok, but does it result in cross-links to the constituent parts in the host item's OPAC?
Many thanks!
Giuseppe.
-- Elaine Bradtke Data Wrangler VWML English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registered Company No. 297142 Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
Dear Elaine, I think I figured out. I've explicitly found out that "Currently Koha doesn't support 774 fields for display." See: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Analytics However, it should amount to changing the XSLT stylesheet for displaying OPAC details. This is defined in Koha system's preference variable: OPACXSLTResultsDisplay, which is normally set to "default". I gather that Koha uses /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl as its default XSL stylesheet for displaying OPAC details of a record ("Normal" view). I could indeed locate the section in that file dealing with a 773 MARC datafield, if present, and it shouldn't be too difficult to clone that section for 774 datafields. This would only solve the "display" part of the cross-links issue, as the "easy" procedure to add analytics (773 datafield) to a constituent item would not automatically add analytics (774 datafield) to the corresponding host item. That should be presently done manually, as you said. Many thanks and best regards, Giuseppe. On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, Elaine Bradtke wrote:
Perhaps I misunderstood the question.Our 773 links (from child /constituent part record to parent/host work in the OPAC The 774 links don't (from parent/host to child/constituent part) do not work in the OPAC, (or staff interface). In fact, they won't even display, even with the subfield settings set to display in OPAC and staff interface.
In our case, this doesn't matter too much because the link from constituent part to host is more important - at least for our users. The host record gives information on location and availability, etc. and has a 520 field to list all the constituent parts. But it would be nice if the 774 fields worked as they should.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:30 AM, Giuseppe Angilella <Giuseppe.Angilella@ct.infn.it> wrote: Dear Elaine,
thank you very much for your kind feedback.
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014, Elaine Bradtke wrote:
We manually input our 774 fields.
That's ok, but does it result in cross-links to the constituent parts in the host item's OPAC?
Many thanks!
Giuseppe.
-- Elaine Bradtke Data Wrangler VWML English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registered Company No. 297142 Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
Hi-- I am probably misunderstanding something here, but our "parent" records do link to the "children" in both our staff client and in our opac. E.g., our record for Sea Stories Magazine: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=27... Has as part of this display, "Analytics: Show analytics <http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=Host-item:Sea%20stories%20magazine.> " And if you click on "Show analytics," a browse list of all the analytic/child records is displayed. The parent record does not contain links to the children in the MARC record--there are no 774's in the parent record--they don't seem necessary. We're on 3.16 supported by ByWater Solutions, and I'm sorry but I don't remember if this is a customization on their part, or if it's tied to some standard feature. We do love this linking, though! Cheerio! heather ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center heather_hernandez@nps.gov 415-561-7032 (voice) 415-556-3540 (fax) http://www.nps.gov/safr/historyculture/museum-collections.htm "The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail."--Gustaf Lindborg
Show Analytics works fine for our serials. It doesn't work for our bound volumes of pamphlets, etc. Maybe because it's a different format / Itemtype? Elaine On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Hernandez, Heather < heather_hernandez@nps.gov> wrote:
Hi--
I am probably misunderstanding something here, but our "parent" records do link to the "children" in both our staff client and in our opac. E.g., our record for Sea Stories Magazine:
http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=27...
Has as part of this display, "Analytics: Show analytics < http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=Host-item:Sea... .> "
And if you click on "Show analytics," a browse list of all the analytic/child records is displayed. The parent record does not contain links to the children in the MARC record--there are no 774's in the parent record--they don't seem necessary. We're on 3.16 supported by ByWater Solutions, and I'm sorry but I don't remember if this is a customization on their part, or if it's tied to some standard feature. We do love this linking, though!
Cheerio! heather ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center heather_hernandez@nps.gov 415-561-7032 (voice) 415-556-3540 (fax) http://www.nps.gov/safr/historyculture/museum-collections.htm
"The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail."--Gustaf Lindborg _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Elaine Bradtke Data Wrangler VWML English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registered Company No. 297142 Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
Hi Elaine, you are right - it's the material type. Currently the link will only show up on all serial records. Katrin Am 04.08.2014 um 21:13 schrieb Elaine Bradtke:
Show Analytics works fine for our serials. It doesn't work for our bound volumes of pamphlets, etc. Maybe because it's a different format / Itemtype? Elaine
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Hernandez, Heather < heather_hernandez@nps.gov> wrote:
Hi--
I am probably misunderstanding something here, but our "parent" records do link to the "children" in both our staff client and in our opac. E.g., our record for Sea Stories Magazine:
http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=27...
Has as part of this display, "Analytics: Show analytics < http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=Host-item:Sea... .> "
And if you click on "Show analytics," a browse list of all the analytic/child records is displayed. The parent record does not contain links to the children in the MARC record--there are no 774's in the parent record--they don't seem necessary. We're on 3.16 supported by ByWater Solutions, and I'm sorry but I don't remember if this is a customization on their part, or if it's tied to some standard feature. We do love this linking, though!
Cheerio! heather ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center heather_hernandez@nps.gov 415-561-7032 (voice) 415-556-3540 (fax) http://www.nps.gov/safr/historyculture/museum-collections.htm
"The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail."--Gustaf Lindborg _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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Katrin Fischer