Re: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH
Hi Florence, I'm afraid that I don't understand your question. What do you mean by "Can Koha be used to manage a digital library"? Are you asking if Koha can show metadata records from a digital library? Or are you asking if Koha can add/update/delete records in a digital library? Or both? Or something else? I'm currently working on an OAI-PMH harvester for Koha, but the sole intent at the moment is to harvest metadata records from other systems and import them into Koha. David Cook Systems Librarian Prosentient Systems 72/330 Wattle St, Ultimo, NSW 2007
-----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:08:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Florence <flo.pouyenne@gmail.com> To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH Message-ID: <loom.20160126T160510-456@post.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hello,
Can Koha be used to manage a digital library ? With a OAI-PMH harvester ?
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It sounds like she's talking about using a program that acts kind of like a web search crawler, similar to how Googlebot operates, to push information into Koha. If that's the case, I don't think Koha would be a good solution for this right now, though you might get something working via a z39.50 connection. It may be that she's asking if Koha can store and serve/circulate harvested digital content directly. Again, I don't believe Koha in it's current form would be good at this. Koha does not currently provide any place to store binary files for circulation. It may also be that she's asking if she can use Koha as a front end into something like DSpace <http://www.dspace.org/> or Greenstone <http://www.greenstone.org/>. If that's the case, I believe Koha can do this right now, but the setup is not yet easy or straightforward. In a nutshell, you would want to enter marc records for each item in the repository, just like you do for current materials, but you would want to use item types and a custom framework so that the material is presented well. I would welcome improvements in Koha to support any of those scenarios. Ultimately, I think Koha needs to evolve to have better support for digital materials. At a minimum, this means a first-class framework for URL-only item types along with first-class integration into systems like DSpace, where a user might end up checking-out some digital content stored there (a record is created in the issues table) that doesn't need to check back in. As distasteful as it may be, this probably needs to also include some kind of copyright enforcement mechanism, to allow libraries to easily comply with external licensing requirements. Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology 402.363.5603 *jcoehoorn@york.edu <jcoehoorn@york.edu>* The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and society On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:04 PM, David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> wrote:
Hi Florence,
I'm afraid that I don't understand your question.
What do you mean by "Can Koha be used to manage a digital library"?
Are you asking if Koha can show metadata records from a digital library? Or are you asking if Koha can add/update/delete records in a digital library? Or both? Or something else?
I'm currently working on an OAI-PMH harvester for Koha, but the sole intent at the moment is to harvest metadata records from other systems and import them into Koha.
David Cook Systems Librarian Prosentient Systems 72/330 Wattle St, Ultimo, NSW 2007
-----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:08:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Florence <flo.pouyenne@gmail.com> To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH Message-ID: <loom.20160126T160510-456@post.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hello,
Can Koha be used to manage a digital library ? With a OAI-PMH harvester ?
------------------------------
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I have a digital library (metadatas + documents, mostly images). My question is : can I manage this collection in my koha ILS, mixed with my traditional lending library collection. And produce a OAI harvester with that collection. For example, can koha be used as greenstone ? Or do I need to use koha WITH greenstone for my purpose ? I still don't know if my question is understandable... On mer., janv. 27, 2016 at 12:04 AM, David Cook < dcook@prosentient.com.au [dcook@prosentient.com.au] > wrote: Hi Florence, I'm afraid that I don't understand your question. What do you mean by "Can Koha be used to manage a digital library"? Are you asking if Koha can show metadata records from a digital library? Or are you asking if Koha can add/update/delete records in a digital library? Or both? Or something else? I'm currently working on an OAI-PMH harvester for Koha, but the sole intent at the moment is to harvest metadata records from other systems and import them into Koha. David Cook Systems Librarian Prosentient Systems 72/330 Wattle St, Ultimo, NSW 2007
-----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:08:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Florence <flo.pouyenne@gmail.com> To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH Message-ID: <loom.20160126T160510-456@post.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hello,
Can Koha be used to manage a digital library ? With a OAI-PMH harvester ?
------------------------------
Thanks for clarifying. In practice, I think most people use Koha with a separate digital library (e.g. Greenstone), and use various methods to import the digital library's metadata into Koha. Since Koha 3.22, you are able to upload files in Koha and attach them to metadata records via the 856$u. If you go into the MARC Bibliographic Frameworks and change the 856$u plugin to "upload.pl" for your desired framework, you'll notice a "tag editor" when you're cataloguing with that framework. If you click on that, it will let you upload files. You may need to set the "upload_path" in koha-conf.xml, but I'm not sure. That might already be provided with your particular Koha installation. The files you upload will be stored in that "upload_path" directory on your Koha server. A link will be added to your MARCXML record, and people will be able to download the file using that link. It's not as full featured as an actual digital library, but it could theoretically work. If you set up Koha to be an OAI-PMH repository, that link to the file would be in the metadata. David Cook Systems Librarian Prosentient Systems 72/330 Wattle St, Ultimo, NSW 2007 From: Flo Pouyenne [mailto:flo.pouyenne@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 27 January 2016 6:37 PM To: David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH I have a digital library (metadatas + documents, mostly images). My question is : can I manage this collection in my koha ILS, mixed with my traditional lending library collection. And produce a OAI harvester with that collection. For example, can koha be used as greenstone ? Or do I need to use koha WITH greenstone for my purpose ? I still don't know if my question is understandable... On mer., janv. 27, 2016 at 12:04 AM, David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au <mailto:dcook@prosentient.com.au> > wrote: Hi Florence, I'm afraid that I don't understand your question. What do you mean by "Can Koha be used to manage a digital library"? Are you asking if Koha can show metadata records from a digital library? Or are you asking if Koha can add/update/delete records in a digital library? Or both? Or something else? I'm currently working on an OAI-PMH harvester for Koha, but the sole intent at the moment is to harvest metadata records from other systems and import them into Koha. David Cook Systems Librarian Prosentient Systems 72/330 Wattle St, Ultimo, NSW 2007
-----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:08:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Florence <flo.pouyenne@gmail.com <mailto:flo.pouyenne@gmail.com> > To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Subject: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH Message-ID: <loom.20160126T160510-456@post.gmane.org <mailto:loom.20160126T160510-456@post.gmane.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hello,
Can Koha be used to manage a digital library ? With a OAI-PMH harvester ?
------------------------------
All right, thank you for your answer David. I understand better. So it could work but it’s more usual to use de separate digital library. Is there any examples of libraries which use koha with a 856$u to manage a digital collection ? De : David Cook Envoyé le :jeudi 28 janvier 2016 00:19 À : 'Flo Pouyenne' Cc : koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Objet :RE: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH Thanks for clarifying. In practice, I think most people use Koha with a separate digital library (e.g. Greenstone), and use various methods to import the digital library’s metadata into Koha. Since Koha 3.22, you are able to upload files in Koha and attach them to metadata records via the 856$u. If you go into the MARC Bibliographic Frameworks and change the 856$u plugin to “upload.pl” for your desired framework, you’ll notice a “tag editor” when you’re cataloguing with that framework. If you click on that, it will let you upload files. You may need to set the “upload_path” in koha-conf.xml, but I’m not sure. That might already be provided with your particular Koha installation. The files you upload will be stored in that “upload_path” directory on your Koha server. A link will be added to your MARCXML record, and people will be able to download the file using that link. It’s not as full featured as an actual digital library, but it could theoretically work. If you set up Koha to be an OAI-PMH repository, that link to the file would be in the metadata. David Cook Systems Librarian Prosentient Systems 72/330 Wattle St, Ultimo, NSW 2007 From: Flo Pouyenne [mailto:flo.pouyenne@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 27 January 2016 6:37 PM To: David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH I have a digital library (metadatas + documents, mostly images). My question is : can I manage this collection in my koha ILS, mixed with my traditional lending library collection. And produce a OAI harvester with that collection. For example, can koha be used as greenstone ? Or do I need to use koha WITH greenstone for my purpose ? I still don't know if my question is understandable... On mer., janv. 27, 2016 at 12:04 AM, David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> wrote: Hi Florence, I'm afraid that I don't understand your question. What do you mean by "Can Koha be used to manage a digital library"? Are you asking if Koha can show metadata records from a digital library? Or are you asking if Koha can add/update/delete records in a digital library? Or both? Or something else? I'm currently working on an OAI-PMH harvester for Koha, but the sole intent at the moment is to harvest metadata records from other systems and import them into Koha. David Cook Systems Librarian Prosentient Systems 72/330 Wattle St, Ultimo, NSW 2007
-----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:08:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Florence <flo.pouyenne@gmail.com> To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH Message-ID: <loom.20160126T160510-456@post.gmane.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hello,
Can Koha be used to manage a digital library ? With a OAI-PMH harvester ?
------------------------------
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I’ll leave that question for other people on the listserv. I don’t know of any examples, but I’m sure there probably are some out in the world. David Cook Systems Librarian Prosentient Systems 72/330 Wattle St, Ultimo, NSW 2007 From: Flo Pouyenne [mailto:flo.pouyenne@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2016 6:36 PM To: David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: RE : [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH All right, thank you for your answer David. I understand better. So it could work but it’s more usual to use de separate digital library. Is there any examples of libraries which use koha with a 856$u to manage a digital collection ? De : David Cook <mailto:dcook@prosentient.com.au> Envoyé le :jeudi 28 janvier 2016 00:19 À : 'Flo Pouyenne' <mailto:flo.pouyenne@gmail.com> Cc : koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Objet :RE: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH Thanks for clarifying. In practice, I think most people use Koha with a separate digital library (e.g. Greenstone), and use various methods to import the digital library’s metadata into Koha. Since Koha 3.22, you are able to upload files in Koha and attach them to metadata records via the 856$u. If you go into the MARC Bibliographic Frameworks and change the 856$u plugin to “upload.pl” for your desired framework, you’ll notice a “tag editor” when you’re cataloguing with that framework. If you click on that, it will let you upload files. You may need to set the “upload_path” in koha-conf.xml, but I’m not sure. That might already be provided with your particular Koha installation. The files you upload will be stored in that “upload_path” directory on your Koha server. A link will be added to your MARCXML record, and people will be able to download the file using that link. It’s not as full featured as an actual digital library, but it could theoretically work. If you set up Koha to be an OAI-PMH repository, that link to the file would be in the metadata. David Cook Systems Librarian Prosentient Systems 72/330 Wattle St, Ultimo, NSW 2007 From: Flo Pouyenne [mailto:flo.pouyenne@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 27 January 2016 6:37 PM To: David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au <mailto:dcook@prosentient.com.au> > Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH I have a digital library (metadatas + documents, mostly images). My question is : can I manage this collection in my koha ILS, mixed with my traditional lending library collection. And produce a OAI harvester with that collection. For example, can koha be used as greenstone ? Or do I need to use koha WITH greenstone for my purpose ? I still don't know if my question is understandable... On mer., janv. 27, 2016 at 12:04 AM, David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au <mailto:dcook@prosentient.com.au> > wrote: Hi Florence, I'm afraid that I don't understand your question. What do you mean by "Can Koha be used to manage a digital library"? Are you asking if Koha can show metadata records from a digital library? Or are you asking if Koha can add/update/delete records in a digital library? Or both? Or something else? I'm currently working on an OAI-PMH harvester for Koha, but the sole intent at the moment is to harvest metadata records from other systems and import them into Koha. David Cook Systems Librarian Prosentient Systems 72/330 Wattle St, Ultimo, NSW 2007
-----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:08:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Florence <flo.pouyenne@gmail.com <mailto:flo.pouyenne@gmail.com> > To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Subject: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH Message-ID: <loom.20160126T160510-456@post.gmane.org <mailto:loom.20160126T160510-456@post.gmane.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hello,
Can Koha be used to manage a digital library ? With a OAI-PMH harvester ?
------------------------------
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Florence asked Is there any examples of libraries which use koha with a 856$u to manage a digital collection ? We use 856$u for a couple serials which are electronic only (we link to their sites, not to our local copies of them). We also link to digital versions of some of our 19th century books that are available in archive.org We have an entirely separate system for our digitized archival material http://www.vwml.org.uk/vwml-projects/vwml-the-full-english . The 'joys' of grant funded projects. On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:15 PM, David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> wrote:
I’ll leave that question for other people on the listserv. I don’t know of any examples, but I’m sure there probably are some out in the world.
David Cook
Systems Librarian
Prosentient Systems
72/330 Wattle St, Ultimo, NSW 2007
From: Flo Pouyenne [mailto:flo.pouyenne@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2016 6:36 PM To: David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: RE : [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH
All right, thank you for your answer David. I understand better. So it could work but it’s more usual to use de separate digital library.
Is there any examples of libraries which use koha with a 856$u to manage a digital collection ?
De : David Cook <mailto:dcook@prosentient.com.au> Envoyé le :jeudi 28 janvier 2016 00:19 À : 'Flo Pouyenne' <mailto:flo.pouyenne@gmail.com> Cc : koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Objet :RE: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH
Thanks for clarifying.
In practice, I think most people use Koha with a separate digital library (e.g. Greenstone), and use various methods to import the digital library’s metadata into Koha.
Since Koha 3.22, you are able to upload files in Koha and attach them to metadata records via the 856$u. If you go into the MARC Bibliographic Frameworks and change the 856$u plugin to “upload.pl” for your desired framework, you’ll notice a “tag editor” when you’re cataloguing with that framework. If you click on that, it will let you upload files.
You may need to set the “upload_path” in koha-conf.xml, but I’m not sure. That might already be provided with your particular Koha installation. The files you upload will be stored in that “upload_path” directory on your Koha server. A link will be added to your MARCXML record, and people will be able to download the file using that link.
It’s not as full featured as an actual digital library, but it could theoretically work.
If you set up Koha to be an OAI-PMH repository, that link to the file would be in the metadata.
David Cook
Systems Librarian
Prosentient Systems
72/330 Wattle St, Ultimo, NSW 2007
From: Flo Pouyenne [mailto:flo.pouyenne@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 27 January 2016 6:37 PM To: David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au <mailto:dcook@prosentient.com.au>
Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH
I have a digital library (metadatas + documents, mostly images). My question is : can I manage this collection in my koha ILS, mixed with my traditional lending library collection. And produce a OAI harvester with that collection. For example, can koha be used as greenstone ? Or do I need to use koha WITH greenstone for my purpose ?
I still don't know if my question is understandable...
On mer., janv. 27, 2016 at 12:04 AM, David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au <mailto:dcook@prosentient.com.au> > wrote:
Hi Florence,
I'm afraid that I don't understand your question.
What do you mean by "Can Koha be used to manage a digital library"?
Are you asking if Koha can show metadata records from a digital library? Or are you asking if Koha can add/update/delete records in a digital library? Or both? Or something else?
I'm currently working on an OAI-PMH harvester for Koha, but the sole intent at the moment is to harvest metadata records from other systems and import them into Koha.
David Cook Systems Librarian Prosentient Systems 72/330 Wattle St, Ultimo, NSW 2007
-----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:08:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Florence <flo.pouyenne@gmail.com <mailto:flo.pouyenne@gmail.com> > To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Subject: [Koha] Koha and OAI-PMH Message-ID: <loom.20160126T160510-456@post.gmane.org <mailto: loom.20160126T160510-456@post.gmane.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hello,
Can Koha be used to manage a digital library ? With a OAI-PMH harvester ?
------------------------------
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Hi-- Elaine wrote:
We use 856$u for a couple serials which are electronic only (we link to their sites, not to our local copies of them). We also link to digital versions of some of our 19th century books that are available in archive.org
We do the same. We thought of investigating the option in upcoming versions to upload a .pdf of our digitized texts to Koha (we're currently on v.3.18, but I can not wait for 3.22!), but are now thinking that we will continue to upload our digitized books to archive.org since they offer automatic conversion to so many different formats, including kindle, and also a really nice interface for online reading. Also, Elaine, I use y'all's Full English site often for cataloging sea chanteys--the materials made available are so helpful! Cheerio! h2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center 2 Marina Blvd., Bldg. E, 3rd floor, San Francisco, CA 94123 415-561-7032, heather_hernandez@nps.gov http://www.nps.gov/safr/learn/historyculture/museum-collections.htm "The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail."--Gustaf Lindborg
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