Matching authority records with tag 001
Hello colleague's, We are trying to import a bunch of authority records with updated fields, but I can't find the right way to match them with existing authority records. The only tag which is workable in our case should be 001. We have followed the manual meticulously, but it just doesn't work. Matching rules used below: Matching rule code: CNUMBER Description: 001 Match threshold: 100 1. Search index: Control-number 2. Score: 101 1. Tag: 001 2. Subfields: [blank] 3. Offset: 0 4. Length: 0 5. Normalization rule: [none] Looking at past messages, we've tried changing the match threshold to '1000' and the score to '1000'. Also, since this matching rule uses a control field, we've tried changing the length to '5' (correct in our case), but to no avail. We've even tried changing the subfield to 'a' and '@', but this doesn't seem to change anything. Anyone who encountered the same problem, but found a solution? Any suggestions? We are using 21.11.06 with Zebra Thanks in advance. Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be<mailto:giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be> www.divaantwerp.be<http://www.divaantwerp.be/> Follow us on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/diva.antwerp> I Linkedin<https://www.linkedin.com/company/438781> I Instagram<https://www.instagram.com/divaantwerp/>
Hi Giacomo, Can you try with the search index "Local-number" instead? I looked at the Zebra indexing files and this seems to be the index for 001 in authorities. "Control-number" would be for 001 in bibliographic records. I hope it helps, Caroline On 2022-09-14 05:23, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hello colleague's,
We are trying to import a bunch of authority records with updated fields, but I can't find the right way to match them with existing authority records. The only tag which is workable in our case should be 001. We have followed the manual meticulously, but it just doesn't work.
Matching rules used below:
Matching rule code: CNUMBER Description: 001 Match threshold: 100
1. Search index: Control-number 2. Score: 101 1. Tag: 001 2. Subfields: [blank] 3. Offset: 0 4. Length: 0 5. Normalization rule: [none]
Looking at past messages, we've tried changing the match threshold to '1000' and the score to '1000'. Also, since this matching rule uses a control field, we've tried changing the length to '5' (correct in our case), but to no avail. We've even tried changing the subfield to 'a' and '@', but this doesn't seem to change anything.
Anyone who encountered the same problem, but found a solution? Any suggestions?
We are using 21.11.06 with Zebra
Thanks in advance.
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be<mailto:giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be> www.divaantwerp.be<http://www.divaantwerp.be/> Follow us on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/diva.antwerp> I Linkedin<https://www.linkedin.com/company/438781> I Instagram<https://www.instagram.com/divaantwerp/> _______________________________________________
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Hi Caroline, Thank you very much for the suggestion! I've run every possibility using 'Local-number' as the search index, tweaking the threshold, score and length again, but I still can't get the records to match. Very weird. Maybe the problem lies somewhere else? Best regards, Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be www.divaantwerp.be -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Caroline Cyr La Rose Verzonden: woensdag 14 september 2022 14:52 Aan: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001 Hi Giacomo, Can you try with the search index "Local-number" instead? I looked at the Zebra indexing files and this seems to be the index for 001 in authorities. "Control-number" would be for 001 in bibliographic records. I hope it helps, Caroline On 2022-09-14 05:23, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hello colleague's,
We are trying to import a bunch of authority records with updated fields, but I can't find the right way to match them with existing authority records. The only tag which is workable in our case should be 001. We have followed the manual meticulously, but it just doesn't work.
Matching rules used below:
Matching rule code: CNUMBER Description: 001 Match threshold: 100
1. Search index: Control-number 2. Score: 101 1. Tag: 001 2. Subfields: [blank] 3. Offset: 0 4. Length: 0 5. Normalization rule: [none]
Looking at past messages, we've tried changing the match threshold to '1000' and the score to '1000'. Also, since this matching rule uses a control field, we've tried changing the length to '5' (correct in our case), but to no avail. We've even tried changing the subfield to 'a' and '@', but this doesn't seem to change anything.
Anyone who encountered the same problem, but found a solution? Any suggestions?
We are using 21.11.06 with Zebra
Thanks in advance.
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be<mailto:giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be> www.divaantwerp.be<http://www.divaantwerp.be/> Follow us on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/diva.antwerp> I Linkedin<https://www.linkedin.com/company/438781> I Instagram<https://www.instagram.com/divaantwerp/> _______________________________________________
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Hi Giacomo, are you using Elasticsearch or Zebra? Katrin On 14.09.22 15:57, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hi Caroline,
Thank you very much for the suggestion! I've run every possibility using 'Local-number' as the search index, tweaking the threshold, score and length again, but I still can't get the records to match. Very weird. Maybe the problem lies somewhere else?
Best regards,
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be www.divaantwerp.be
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Caroline Cyr La Rose Verzonden: woensdag 14 september 2022 14:52 Aan: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001
Hi Giacomo,
Can you try with the search index "Local-number" instead? I looked at the Zebra indexing files and this seems to be the index for 001 in authorities. "Control-number" would be for 001 in bibliographic records.
I hope it helps,
Caroline
On 2022-09-14 05:23, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hello colleague's,
We are trying to import a bunch of authority records with updated fields, but I can't find the right way to match them with existing authority records. The only tag which is workable in our case should be 001. We have followed the manual meticulously, but it just doesn't work.
Matching rules used below:
Matching rule code: CNUMBER Description: 001 Match threshold: 100
1. Search index: Control-number 2. Score: 101 1. Tag: 001 2. Subfields: [blank] 3. Offset: 0 4. Length: 0 5. Normalization rule: [none]
Looking at past messages, we've tried changing the match threshold to '1000' and the score to '1000'. Also, since this matching rule uses a control field, we've tried changing the length to '5' (correct in our case), but to no avail. We've even tried changing the subfield to 'a' and '@', but this doesn't seem to change anything.
Anyone who encountered the same problem, but found a solution? Any suggestions?
We are using 21.11.06 with Zebra
Thanks in advance.
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be<mailto:giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be> www.divaantwerp.be<http://www.divaantwerp.be/> Follow us on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/diva.antwerp> I Linkedin<https://www.linkedin.com/company/438781> I Instagram<https://www.instagram.com/divaantwerp/> _______________________________________________
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Hi Katrin, Thank you for reaching out. We are using Zebra. Marcel de Rooy suggested changing the search index from 'Local-number' to 'Local-Number', but again, it just won't work. All the best, Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Katrin Fischer Verzonden: zondag 18 september 2022 18:35 Aan: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001 Hi Giacomo, are you using Elasticsearch or Zebra? Katrin On 14.09.22 15:57, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hi Caroline,
Thank you very much for the suggestion! I've run every possibility using 'Local-number' as the search index, tweaking the threshold, score and length again, but I still can't get the records to match. Very weird. Maybe the problem lies somewhere else?
Best regards,
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be www.divaantwerp.be
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Caroline Cyr La Rose Verzonden: woensdag 14 september 2022 14:52 Aan: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001
Hi Giacomo,
Can you try with the search index "Local-number" instead? I looked at the Zebra indexing files and this seems to be the index for 001 in authorities. "Control-number" would be for 001 in bibliographic records.
I hope it helps,
Caroline
On 2022-09-14 05:23, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hello colleague's,
We are trying to import a bunch of authority records with updated fields, but I can't find the right way to match them with existing authority records. The only tag which is workable in our case should be 001. We have followed the manual meticulously, but it just doesn't work.
Matching rules used below:
Matching rule code: CNUMBER Description: 001 Match threshold: 100
1. Search index: Control-number 2. Score: 101 1. Tag: 001 2. Subfields: [blank] 3. Offset: 0 4. Length: 0 5. Normalization rule: [none]
Looking at past messages, we've tried changing the match threshold to '1000' and the score to '1000'. Also, since this matching rule uses a control field, we've tried changing the length to '5' (correct in our case), but to no avail. We've even tried changing the subfield to 'a' and '@', but this doesn't seem to change anything.
Anyone who encountered the same problem, but found a solution? Any suggestions?
We are using 21.11.06 with Zebra
Thanks in advance.
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be<mailto:giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be> www.divaantwerp.be<http://www.divaantwerp.be/> Follow us on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/diva.antwerp> I Linkedin<https://www.linkedin.com/company/438781> I Instagram<https://www.instagram.com/divaantwerp/> _______________________________________________
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Hi Giacomo, did you export the records from Koha for batch editing? Can you confirm manually that the 001 of the records still match? Hope this helps, Katrin On 19.09.22 09:29, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hi Katrin,
Thank you for reaching out. We are using Zebra.
Marcel de Rooy suggested changing the search index from 'Local-number' to 'Local-Number', but again, it just won't work.
All the best,
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Katrin Fischer Verzonden: zondag 18 september 2022 18:35 Aan: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001
Hi Giacomo,
are you using Elasticsearch or Zebra?
Katrin
On 14.09.22 15:57, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hi Caroline,
Thank you very much for the suggestion! I've run every possibility using 'Local-number' as the search index, tweaking the threshold, score and length again, but I still can't get the records to match. Very weird. Maybe the problem lies somewhere else?
Best regards,
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be www.divaantwerp.be
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Caroline Cyr La Rose Verzonden: woensdag 14 september 2022 14:52 Aan: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001
Hi Giacomo,
Can you try with the search index "Local-number" instead? I looked at the Zebra indexing files and this seems to be the index for 001 in authorities. "Control-number" would be for 001 in bibliographic records.
I hope it helps,
Caroline
On 2022-09-14 05:23, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hello colleague's,
We are trying to import a bunch of authority records with updated fields, but I can't find the right way to match them with existing authority records. The only tag which is workable in our case should be 001. We have followed the manual meticulously, but it just doesn't work.
Matching rules used below:
Matching rule code: CNUMBER Description: 001 Match threshold: 100
1. Search index: Control-number 2. Score: 101 1. Tag: 001 2. Subfields: [blank] 3. Offset: 0 4. Length: 0 5. Normalization rule: [none]
Looking at past messages, we've tried changing the match threshold to '1000' and the score to '1000'. Also, since this matching rule uses a control field, we've tried changing the length to '5' (correct in our case), but to no avail. We've even tried changing the subfield to 'a' and '@', but this doesn't seem to change anything.
Anyone who encountered the same problem, but found a solution? Any suggestions?
We are using 21.11.06 with Zebra
Thanks in advance.
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be<mailto:giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be> www.divaantwerp.be<http://www.divaantwerp.be/> Follow us on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/diva.antwerp> I Linkedin<https://www.linkedin.com/company/438781> I Instagram<https://www.instagram.com/divaantwerp/> _______________________________________________
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Hi Katrin, Thank you for your time. I exported the authority records with the 'export data' tool. Using MarcEdit's 'export tab delimited records' I converted the mrc-file to xlsx. Using OpenRefine I reconciled the 1XX tags and added 024 tags with ID's etc. I exported that again into a xlsx-file. Using MarcEdit again I converted that file to mrk and then to mrc. I can confirm that the 001 tags are a match. (below copy/paste from the actual mrc-files) This is the original record : =LDR 00220 a2200109 4500 =001 85809 =003 OSt =005 20170526155948.0 =008 170526||\aca||aabn\\\\\\\\\\\|\a|a\\\\\d =040 \\$aOSt$cOSt =150 \\$a10de eeuw =942 \\$aTOPIC_TERM This is the record I like to match to it: =LDR 00362 a22a010013300 =001 85809 =003 OSt =005 20170526155948.0 =008 170526||\aca||aabn\\\\\\\\\\\|\a|a\\\\\d =024 7\$1https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8052$2wikidata$aQ8052 =024 7\$1http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/300404502$2gettyaat$a300404502 =040 \\$aOSt$cOSt =150 \\$a10de eeuw =942 \\$aTOPIC_TERM Doing this comparison, I've noticed the LDR has changed. Could this be the problem? All the best, Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be www.divaantwerp.be -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer.83@web.de> Verzonden: maandag 19 september 2022 21:49 Aan: Giacomo Visini <Giacomo.VISINI@divaantwerp.be>; koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001 Hi Giacomo, did you export the records from Koha for batch editing? Can you confirm manually that the 001 of the records still match? Hope this helps, Katrin On 19.09.22 09:29, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hi Katrin,
Thank you for reaching out. We are using Zebra.
Marcel de Rooy suggested changing the search index from 'Local-number' to 'Local-Number', but again, it just won't work.
All the best,
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Katrin Fischer Verzonden: zondag 18 september 2022 18:35 Aan: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001
Hi Giacomo,
are you using Elasticsearch or Zebra?
Katrin
On 14.09.22 15:57, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hi Caroline,
Thank you very much for the suggestion! I've run every possibility using 'Local-number' as the search index, tweaking the threshold, score and length again, but I still can't get the records to match. Very weird. Maybe the problem lies somewhere else?
Best regards,
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be www.divaantwerp.be
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Caroline Cyr La Rose Verzonden: woensdag 14 september 2022 14:52 Aan: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001
Hi Giacomo,
Can you try with the search index "Local-number" instead? I looked at the Zebra indexing files and this seems to be the index for 001 in authorities. "Control-number" would be for 001 in bibliographic records.
I hope it helps,
Caroline
On 2022-09-14 05:23, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hello colleague's,
We are trying to import a bunch of authority records with updated fields, but I can't find the right way to match them with existing authority records. The only tag which is workable in our case should be 001. We have followed the manual meticulously, but it just doesn't work.
Matching rules used below:
Matching rule code: CNUMBER Description: 001 Match threshold: 100
1. Search index: Control-number 2. Score: 101 1. Tag: 001 2. Subfields: [blank] 3. Offset: 0 4. Length: 0 5. Normalization rule: [none]
Looking at past messages, we've tried changing the match threshold to '1000' and the score to '1000'. Also, since this matching rule uses a control field, we've tried changing the length to '5' (correct in our case), but to no avail. We've even tried changing the subfield to 'a' and '@', but this doesn't seem to change anything.
Anyone who encountered the same problem, but found a solution? Any suggestions?
We are using 21.11.06 with Zebra
Thanks in advance.
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be<mailto:giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be> www.divaantwerp.be<http://www.divaantwerp.be/> Follow us on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/diva.antwerp> I Linkedin<https://www.linkedin.com/company/438781> I Instagram<https://www.instagram.com/divaantwerp/> _______________________________________________
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You may wish to reindex and try again, depending on whether you have indexed your authorities since this bug: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23053 On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 4:24 AM Giacomo Visini < Giacomo.VISINI@divaantwerp.be> wrote: > Hi Katrin, > > Thank you for your time. > > I exported the authority records with the 'export data' tool. Using > MarcEdit's 'export tab delimited records' I converted the mrc-file to xlsx. > Using OpenRefine I reconciled the 1XX tags and added 024 tags with ID's > etc. I exported that again into a xlsx-file. Using MarcEdit again I > converted that file to mrk and then to mrc. > > I can confirm that the 001 tags are a match. (below copy/paste from the > actual mrc-files) > > This is the original record : > =LDR 00220 a2200109 4500 > =001 85809 > =003 OSt > =005 20170526155948.0 > =008 170526||\aca||aabn\\\\\\\\\\\|\a|a\\\\\d > =040 \\$aOSt$cOSt > =150 \\$a10de eeuw > =942 \\$aTOPIC_TERM > > This is the record I like to match to it: > =LDR 00362 a22a010013300 > =001 85809 > =003 OSt > =005 20170526155948.0 > =008 170526||\aca||aabn\\\\\\\\\\\|\a|a\\\\\d > =024 7\$1https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8052$2wikidata$aQ8052 > =024 7\$1http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/300404502$2gettyaat$a300404502 > =040 <http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/300404502$2gettyaat$a300404502=040> > \\$aOSt$cOSt > =150 \\$a10de eeuw > =942 \\$aTOPIC_TERM > > Doing this comparison, I've noticed the LDR has changed. Could this be the > problem? > > All the best, > > Giacomo Visini I Library assistant > DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds > Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen > Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen > T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 > giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be www.divaantwerp.be > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer.83@web.de> > Verzonden: maandag 19 september 2022 21:49 > Aan: Giacomo Visini <Giacomo.VISINI@divaantwerp.be>; > koha@lists.katipo.co.nz > Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001 > > Hi Giacomo, > > did you export the records from Koha for batch editing? Can you confirm > manually that the 001 of the records still match? > > Hope this helps, > > Katrin > > On 19.09.22 09:29, Giacomo Visini wrote: > > Hi Katrin, > > > > Thank you for reaching out. We are using Zebra. > > > > Marcel de Rooy suggested changing the search index from 'Local-number' > to 'Local-Number', but again, it just won't work. > > > > All the best, > > > > Giacomo Visini I Library assistant > > DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds > > Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen > > Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + > > 32 485 66 49 98 > > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Katrin Fischer > > Verzonden: zondag 18 september 2022 18:35 > > Aan: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz > > Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001 > > > > Hi Giacomo, > > > > are you using Elasticsearch or Zebra? > > > > Katrin > > > > On 14.09.22 15:57, Giacomo Visini wrote: > >> Hi Caroline, > >> > >> Thank you very much for the suggestion! I've run every possibility > using 'Local-number' as the search index, tweaking the threshold, score and > length again, but I still can't get the records to match. Very weird. Maybe > the problem lies somewhere else? > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> Giacomo Visini I Library assistant > >> DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds > >> Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen > >> Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + > >> 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be www.divaantwerp.be > >> > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >> Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Caroline Cyr La > >> Rose > >> Verzonden: woensdag 14 september 2022 14:52 > >> Aan: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz > >> Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001 > >> > >> Hi Giacomo, > >> > >> Can you try with the search index "Local-number" instead? I looked at > the Zebra indexing files and this seems to be the index for 001 in > authorities. "Control-number" would be for 001 in bibliographic records. > >> > >> I hope it helps, > >> > >> Caroline > >> > >> On 2022-09-14 05:23, Giacomo Visini wrote: > >>> Hello colleague's, > >>> > >>> We are trying to import a bunch of authority records with updated > fields, but I can't find the right way to match them with existing > authority records. The only tag which is workable in our case should be > 001. We have followed the manual meticulously, but it just doesn't work. > >>> > >>> Matching rules used below: > >>> > >>> Matching rule code: CNUMBER > >>> Description: 001 > >>> Match threshold: 100 > >>> > >>> 1. Search index: Control-number > >>> 2. Score: 101 > >>> 1. Tag: 001 > >>> 2. Subfields: [blank] > >>> 3. Offset: 0 > >>> 4. Length: 0 > >>> 5. Normalization rule: [none] > >>> > >>> Looking at past messages, we've tried changing the match threshold to > '1000' and the score to '1000'. Also, since this matching rule uses a > control field, we've tried changing the length to '5' (correct in our > case), but to no avail. We've even tried changing the subfield to 'a' and > '@', but this doesn't seem to change anything. > >>> > >>> Anyone who encountered the same problem, but found a solution? 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Hi everybody of the Koha community, First of all, thank you for all the help. I can tell you that the suggestion of Nick Clemens finally did the trick. We asked to reindex our database and it worked! It was this bug all along: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23053 Below the matching rule that did the trick: Matching rule code: 001 LOCAL Description: 001 Local-Number Match threshold: 1000 Record type: Authority record Match points Search index: Local-Number Score: 1000 Matchpoint components Tag: 001 Subfields: (empty) Offset: 0 Length: 0 Normalization rule: (none) Maybe this can be of help for some people out there. All the best, Giacomo Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be www.divaantwerp.be -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Nick Clemens Verzonden: donderdag 29 september 2022 13:50 CC: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001 You may wish to reindex and try again, depending on whether you have indexed your authorities since this bug: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23053 On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 4:24 AM Giacomo Visini < Giacomo.VISINI@divaantwerp.be> wrote:
Hi Katrin,
Thank you for your time.
I exported the authority records with the 'export data' tool. Using MarcEdit's 'export tab delimited records' I converted the mrc-file to xlsx. Using OpenRefine I reconciled the 1XX tags and added 024 tags with ID's etc. I exported that again into a xlsx-file. Using MarcEdit again I converted that file to mrk and then to mrc.
I can confirm that the 001 tags are a match. (below copy/paste from the actual mrc-files)
This is the original record : =LDR 00220 a2200109 4500 =001 85809 =003 OSt =005 20170526155948.0 =008 170526||\aca||aabn\\\\\\\\\\\|\a|a\\\\\d =040 \\$aOSt$cOSt =150 \\$a10de eeuw =942 \\$aTOPIC_TERM
This is the record I like to match to it: =LDR 00362 a22a010013300 =001 85809 =003 OSt =005 20170526155948.0 =008 170526||\aca||aabn\\\\\\\\\\\|\a|a\\\\\d =024 7\$1https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8052$2wikidata$aQ8052 =024 7\$1http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/300404502$2gettyaat$a300404502 =040 <http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/300404502$2gettyaat$a300404502=040> \\$aOSt$cOSt =150 \\$a10de eeuw =942 \\$aTOPIC_TERM
Doing this comparison, I've noticed the LDR has changed. Could this be the problem?
All the best,
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be www.divaantwerp.be
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer.83@web.de> Verzonden: maandag 19 september 2022 21:49 Aan: Giacomo Visini <Giacomo.VISINI@divaantwerp.be>; koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001
Hi Giacomo,
did you export the records from Koha for batch editing? Can you confirm manually that the 001 of the records still match?
Hope this helps,
Katrin
Hi Katrin,
Thank you for reaching out. We are using Zebra.
Marcel de Rooy suggested changing the search index from 'Local-number' to 'Local-Number', but again, it just won't work.
All the best,
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Katrin Fischer Verzonden: zondag 18 september 2022 18:35 Aan: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001
Hi Giacomo,
are you using Elasticsearch or Zebra?
Katrin
On 14.09.22 15:57, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hi Caroline,
Thank you very much for the suggestion! I've run every possibility using 'Local-number' as the search index, tweaking the threshold, score and length again, but I still can't get the records to match. Very weird. Maybe the problem lies somewhere else?
Best regards,
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be www.divaantwerp.be
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Caroline Cyr La Rose Verzonden: woensdag 14 september 2022 14:52 Aan: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001
Hi Giacomo,
Can you try with the search index "Local-number" instead? I looked at
On 19.09.22 09:29, Giacomo Visini wrote: the Zebra indexing files and this seems to be the index for 001 in authorities. "Control-number" would be for 001 in bibliographic records.
I hope it helps,
Caroline
On 2022-09-14 05:23, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hello colleague's,
We are trying to import a bunch of authority records with updated
fields, but I can't find the right way to match them with existing authority records. The only tag which is workable in our case should be 001. We have followed the manual meticulously, but it just doesn't work.
Matching rules used below:
Matching rule code: CNUMBER Description: 001 Match threshold: 100
1. Search index: Control-number 2. Score: 101 1. Tag: 001 2. Subfields: [blank] 3. Offset: 0 4. Length: 0 5. Normalization rule: [none]
Looking at past messages, we've tried changing the match threshold to
'1000' and the score to '1000'. Also, since this matching rule uses a control field, we've tried changing the length to '5' (correct in our case), but to no avail. We've even tried changing the subfield to 'a' and '@', but this doesn't seem to change anything.
Anyone who encountered the same problem, but found a solution? Any
suggestions?
We are using 21.11.06 with Zebra
Thanks in advance.
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be<mailto:giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be
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I tested out an 001 match using the control-number index and I too had problems and no match was found. Our locally created authorities have a 6 digit number in the 001. I was however able to overlay the existing authorities in two ways. My first way involved using MarcEdit to move the six-digit 001 to the 010$a and then used our usual LCCN record matching rule: Matching rule code: LCCN Description: 010 Match threshold: 1000 1. Search index: LC-card-number 2. Score: 1000 1. Tag: 010 2. Subfields: a 3. Offset: 0 4. Length: 0 5. Normalization rule: [none] That's just a standard match on the Library of Congress control number. I was a little surprised that the LC-card-number worked with the local-to-us six digit number, but the match was found and the overlay worked. The second (easier) way I found the match was when I changed my existing 001-authority matching rule to use the LC-card-number index (rather than control-number index). Matching rule code: 001 Description: 001 Match threshold: 1000 1. Search index: LC-card-number 2. Score: 1000 1. Tag: 001 2. Subfields: [none] 3. Offset: 0 4. Length: 0 5. Normalization rule: [none] That worked perfectly too, without the drama of moving 001 to 010$a. Ray Delahunty -----Original Message----- From: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> On Behalf Of Katrin Fischer Sent: 19 September 2022 20:49 To: Giacomo Visini <Giacomo.VISINI@divaantwerp.be>; koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001 WARNING. This email originated outside of UAL. Always check before clicking links, opening attachments or responding with sensitive information. If in doubt, contact the IT Service Desk on +44 020 7514 9898. Hi Giacomo, did you export the records from Koha for batch editing? Can you confirm manually that the 001 of the records still match? Hope this helps, Katrin On 19.09.22 09:29, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hi Katrin,
Thank you for reaching out. We are using Zebra.
Marcel de Rooy suggested changing the search index from 'Local-number' to 'Local-Number', but again, it just won't work.
All the best,
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Katrin Fischer Verzonden: zondag 18 september 2022 18:35 Aan: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001
Hi Giacomo,
are you using Elasticsearch or Zebra?
Katrin
On 14.09.22 15:57, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hi Caroline,
Thank you very much for the suggestion! I've run every possibility using 'Local-number' as the search index, tweaking the threshold, score and length again, but I still can't get the records to match. Very weird. Maybe the problem lies somewhere else?
Best regards,
Giacomo Visini I Library assistant DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds Visiting adress library (temporary): Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen Postal adress: Kaasstraat 13, B-2000 Antwerpen T + 32 3 360 52 41 M + 32 485 66 49 98 giacomo.visini@divaantwerp.be www.divaantwerp.be
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Namens Caroline Cyr La Rose Verzonden: woensdag 14 september 2022 14:52 Aan: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Matching authority records with tag 001
Hi Giacomo,
Can you try with the search index "Local-number" instead? I looked at the Zebra indexing files and this seems to be the index for 001 in authorities. "Control-number" would be for 001 in bibliographic records.
I hope it helps,
Caroline
On 2022-09-14 05:23, Giacomo Visini wrote:
Hello colleague's,
We are trying to import a bunch of authority records with updated fields, but I can't find the right way to match them with existing authority records. The only tag which is workable in our case should be 001. We have followed the manual meticulously, but it just doesn't work.
Matching rules used below:
Matching rule code: CNUMBER Description: 001 Match threshold: 100
1. Search index: Control-number 2. Score: 101 1. Tag: 001 2. Subfields: [blank] 3. Offset: 0 4. Length: 0 5. Normalization rule: [none]
Looking at past messages, we've tried changing the match threshold to '1000' and the score to '1000'. Also, since this matching rule uses a control field, we've tried changing the length to '5' (correct in our case), but to no avail. We've even tried changing the subfield to 'a' and '@', but this doesn't seem to change anything.
Anyone who encountered the same problem, but found a solution? Any suggestions?
We are using 21.11.06 with Zebra
Thanks in advance.
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