Well, this is disappointing ...
http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=16375 "LibLime Academic Koha to be used by University Students in Spring Semester 2012 [Dec. 8, 2011] Spring semester 2012, three schools are joining LibLime in the Koha with Class program. The three schools working with LibLime on this project include: The School of Library and Information Science at Indiana University; The Information School at the University of Washington Gallagher; and the Graduate School of Library and Information Science at Simmons College. Library school students at these three Universities – taking classes in library automation and technology systems -- will be studying the principles for design, selection, implementation and management of automated systems of all types in libraries. Each course will cover the use of ILSs for technical service processing, reference and user services, and management. Both courses will include presentations and demos from vendors and systems librarians and possible site visits to libraries using ILS systems in their day-to-day operations." Free hosting is a nice bonus, but still ... Cab Vinton, Director Sanbornton Public Library Sanbornton, NH "Politeness and consideration for others is like investing pennies and getting dollars back." Thomas Sowell
You can't help those who won't help themselves. The LibLime relationship with Koha is well documented and a cursory internet search would clearly show that. It does seems short sighted though.. J On 13 December 2011 05:00, Cab Vinton <bibliwho@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=16375
"LibLime Academic Koha to be used by University Students in Spring Semester 2012 [Dec. 8, 2011]
Spring semester 2012, three schools are joining LibLime in the Koha with Class program. The three schools working with LibLime on this project include: The School of Library and Information Science at Indiana University; The Information School at the University of Washington Gallagher; and the Graduate School of Library and Information Science at Simmons College. Library school students at these three Universities – taking classes in library automation and technology systems -- will be studying the principles for design, selection, implementation and management of automated systems of all types in libraries. Each course will cover the use of ILSs for technical service processing, reference and user services, and management. Both courses will include presentations and demos from vendors and systems librarians and possible site visits to libraries using ILS systems in their day-to-day operations."
Free hosting is a nice bonus, but still ...
Cab Vinton, Director Sanbornton Public Library Sanbornton, NH
"Politeness and consideration for others is like investing pennies and getting dollars back." Thomas Sowell _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Joann Ransom RLIANZA Head of Libraries, Horowhenua Library Trust.
I for one, as a member of the "real" Koha community, kind of like what is happening. I love the fact that Koha is being used to teach these kinds of skills to library school students. On the other hand, I am dismayed by the way this is happening. Hopefully, students in these classes will figure this out. They don't need a benefactor like this company to learn about open source, Koha, and how to make work. I wish there was something the community could do, I just don't know what right now. Anyone else experiencing mixed emotions on this particular topic? Would it not be wonderful to have interested library school students everywhere using community-based Koha? Sorry, this company just gets to me sometimes. Gary New Mexico, USA. From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Joann Ransom Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:16 PM Cc: Koha list Subject: Re: [Koha] Well, this is disappointing ... You can't help those who won't help themselves. The LibLime relationship with Koha is well documented and a cursory internet search would clearly show that. It does seems short sighted though.. J On 13 December 2011 05:00, Cab Vinton <bibliwho@gmail.com<mailto:bibliwho@gmail.com>> wrote: http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=16375 "LibLime Academic Koha to be used by University Students in Spring Semester 2012 [Dec. 8, 2011] Spring semester 2012, three schools are joining LibLime in the Koha with Class program. The three schools working with LibLime on this project include: The School of Library and Information Science at Indiana University; The Information School at the University of Washington Gallagher; and the Graduate School of Library and Information Science at Simmons College. Library school students at these three Universities - taking classes in library automation and technology systems -- will be studying the principles for design, selection, implementation and management of automated systems of all types in libraries. Each course will cover the use of ILSs for technical service processing, reference and user services, and management. Both courses will include presentations and demos from vendors and systems librarians and possible site visits to libraries using ILS systems in their day-to-day operations." Free hosting is a nice bonus, but still ... Cab Vinton, Director Sanbornton Public Library Sanbornton, NH "Politeness and consideration for others is like investing pennies and getting dollars back." Thomas Sowell _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz<mailto:Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha -- Joann Ransom RLIANZA Head of Libraries, Horowhenua Library Trust.
I'm with you Gary. I think this is a great opportunity for the LIS students and hope that they are indeed learning about library systems. And it is great that Liblime is supporting the students this way. I just hope they aren't getting instruction in how to be a part of an open source community from Liblime too! As I tweeted....I'd rather be the one doing the Open Source instruction for these students than Liblime! Lori =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lori Bowen Ayre // Library Technology Consultant / The Galecia Group Oversight Board & Communications Committee / Evergreen (707) 763-6869 // Lori.Ayre@galecia.com <Lori.Ayre@galecia.com>Specializing in open source ILS solutions, RFID, filtering, workflow optimization, and materials handling =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 2011/12/12 Harris, Gary, DCA <Gary.Harris@state.nm.us>
I for one, as a member of the “real” Koha community, kind of like what is happening. I love the fact that Koha is being used to teach these kinds of skills to library school students. On the other hand, I am dismayed by the way this is happening. Hopefully, students in these classes will figure this out. They don’t need a benefactor like this company to learn about open source, Koha, and how to make work. I wish there was something the community could do, I just don’t know what right now. Anyone else experiencing mixed emotions on this particular topic? Would it not be wonderful to have interested library school students everywhere using community-based Koha?****
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*From:* koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] *On Behalf Of *Joann Ransom *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2011 1:16 PM *Cc:* Koha list *Subject:* Re: [Koha] Well, this is disappointing ...****
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You can't help those who won't help themselves. The LibLime relationship with Koha is well documented and a cursory internet search would clearly show that.
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On 13 December 2011 05:00, Cab Vinton <bibliwho@gmail.com> wrote:****
http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=16375
"LibLime Academic Koha to be used by University Students in Spring Semester 2012 [Dec. 8, 2011]
Spring semester 2012, three schools are joining LibLime in the Koha with Class program. The three schools working with LibLime on this project include: The School of Library and Information Science at Indiana University; The Information School at the University of Washington Gallagher; and the Graduate School of Library and Information Science at Simmons College. Library school students at these three Universities – taking classes in library automation and technology systems -- will be studying the principles for design, selection, implementation and management of automated systems of all types in libraries. Each course will cover the use of ILSs for technical service processing, reference and user services, and management. Both courses will include presentations and demos from vendors and systems librarians and possible site visits to libraries using ILS systems in their day-to-day operations."
Free hosting is a nice bonus, but still ...
Cab Vinton, Director Sanbornton Public Library Sanbornton, NH
"Politeness and consideration for others is like investing pennies and getting dollars back." Thomas Sowell _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha****
-- Joann Ransom RLIANZA Head of Libraries, Horowhenua Library Trust.****
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Salvete!
I'm with you Gary. I think this is a great opportunity for the LIS students and hope that they are indeed learning about library systems. And it is great that Liblime is supporting the students this way. I just hope they aren't getting instruction in how to be a part of an open source community from Liblime too!
As I tweeted....I'd rather be the one doing the Open Source instruction for these students than Liblime!
This is not a new development; LibLime was doing this for years, it started under Josh. It might have been far enough back that it was before the fork, too. That said, I'm surprised that Simmons would decide to go with this over actual Koha. The folks at that GSLIS could foster a natural partnership with MassCat, so that part raises an eyebrow. Cheers, Brooke
I think the key here is that Liblime is putting in the time to work with the LIS programs. I suspect if MassCat (or anyone else) had extended an offer, they would have accepted. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:12 AM, BWS Johnson <abesottedphoenix@yahoo.com>wrote:
Salvete!
I'm with you Gary. I think this is a great opportunity for the LIS students and hope that they are indeed learning about library systems. And it is great that Liblime is supporting the students this way. I just hope they aren't getting instruction in how to be a part of an open source community from Liblime too!
As I tweeted....I'd rather be the one doing the Open Source instruction for these students than Liblime!
This is not a new development; LibLime was doing this for years, it started under Josh. It might have been far enough back that it was before the fork, too.
That said, I'm surprised that Simmons would decide to go with this over actual Koha. The folks at that GSLIS could foster a natural partnership with MassCat, so that part raises an eyebrow.
Cheers, Brooke
Lori, et. al., I think the key here is that Liblime is putting in the time to work with
the LIS programs. I suspect if MassCat (or anyone else) had extended an offer, they would have accepted.
Exactly! That has been my experience, at least. I've worked with two library schools to provide Koha installations for student use. One school actually has an in-house Koha expert, so my role with them was limited to advocacy. For the other school, C & P Bibliography Services is providing a hosted Koha installation for their students' use. My hope is that by getting Koha into use in library schools, we'll see more understanding of the system, more testing (and user feedback), and, eventually a repository of lesson plans based on Koha. Regards, Jared Camins-Esakov -- Jared Camins-Esakov Bibliographer, C & P Bibliography Services, LLC (phone) +1 (917) 727-3445 (e-mail) jcamins@cpbibliography.com (web) http://www.cpbibliography.com/
Salvete!
I think the key here is that Liblime is putting in the time to work with the LIS programs. I suspect if MassCat (or anyone else) had extended an offer, they would have accepted.
This got misinterpreted somehow. I find it odd that you wouldn't find a way to capitalise as a school off of the efforts of your students. The tie ins that one would get out of Koha in terms of effort and internship seem to be better than what you'd get on an island. You can make a little snowball of hitting up a demo and teaching from that, which you could do with the ByWater demos anyway, or you could go beyond that instructional rubric and build in community value. Nothing west of Worcester, I suppose. Cheers, Brooke
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