RFC: Reverting MARC batches with deleted records
The batch record tool can A) overlay/replace existing records B) revert batches, including modifications due to overlays The situation becomes messy when we begin dealing with batches having overlaid records that are now deleted. If one of these batches is reverted, the record is un-deleted and the old pre-overlay record is reinstated ( unless you have CatalogingLog on, then nothing happens do to a bug ). The question becomes, is this the correct thing to do? If a record is deleted, shouldn't it stay deleted? Please let me know what you think! Kyle http://www.kylehall.info ByWater Solutions ( http://bywatersolutions.com ) Meadville Public Library ( http://www.meadvillelibrary.org ) Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org ) Mill Run Technology Solutions ( http://millruntech.com )
Hi, On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com> wrote:
The question becomes, is this the correct thing to do? If a record is deleted, shouldn't it stay deleted?
My gut reaction: it should stay deleted, as there was presumably some other intentional action taken at some point to delete it. Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Infrastructure and Added Services Manager Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts email: gmc@esilibrary.com direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366 skype: gmcharlt web: http://www.esilibrary.com/ Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org & http://evergreen-ils.org
That is also my instinct. It's good to have some further confirmation! Kyle http://www.kylehall.info ByWater Solutions ( http://bywatersolutions.com ) Meadville Public Library ( http://www.meadvillelibrary.org ) Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org ) Mill Run Technology Solutions ( http://millruntech.com ) On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Galen Charlton <gmc@esilibrary.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com> wrote:
The question becomes, is this the correct thing to do? If a record is deleted, shouldn't it stay deleted?
My gut reaction: it should stay deleted, as there was presumably some other intentional action taken at some point to delete it.
Regards,
Galen -- Galen Charlton Infrastructure and Added Services Manager Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts email: gmc@esilibrary.com direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366 skype: gmcharlt web: http://www.esilibrary.com/ Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org & http://evergreen-ils.org
Hear here. Thank you, Christopher Davis, MLS Systems & E-Services Librarian Uintah County Library cgdavis@uintah.utah.gov (435) 789-0091 ext.261 uintahlibrary.org basinlibraries.org facebook.com/uintahcountylibrary On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com> wrote:
That is also my instinct. It's good to have some further confirmation!
Kyle
http://www.kylehall.info ByWater Solutions ( http://bywatersolutions.com ) Meadville Public Library ( http://www.meadvillelibrary.org ) Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org ) Mill Run Technology Solutions ( http://millruntech.com )
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Galen Charlton <gmc@esilibrary.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com> wrote:
The question becomes, is this the correct thing to do? If a record is deleted, shouldn't it stay deleted?
My gut reaction: it should stay deleted, as there was presumably some other intentional action taken at some point to delete it.
Regards,
Galen -- Galen Charlton Infrastructure and Added Services Manager Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts email: gmc@esilibrary.com direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366 skype: gmcharlt web: http://www.esilibrary.com/ Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org & http://evergreen-ils.org
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Hi, Kyle-- I couldn't agree more with wanting the records to stay deleted in that scenario--I want all my deleted records to stay permanently, perpetually, and completely deleted. No zombie records!!!:) --h2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center 415-561-7032, heather_hernandez@nps.gov http://www.nps.gov/safr/learn/historyculture/museum-collections.htm "The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail."--Gustaf Lindborg
+1 2015-06-23 17:14 GMT-03:00 Hernandez, Heather <heather_hernandez@nps.gov>:
Hi, Kyle--
I couldn't agree more with wanting the records to stay deleted in that scenario--I want all my deleted records to stay permanently, perpetually, and completely deleted. No zombie records!!!:)
--h2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center 415-561-7032, heather_hernandez@nps.gov http://www.nps.gov/safr/learn/historyculture/museum-collections.htm
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In my humble opinion, It should stay deleted. Thank you. Jesse On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com> wrote:
The batch record tool can A) overlay/replace existing records B) revert batches, including modifications due to overlays
The situation becomes messy when we begin dealing with batches having overlaid records that are now deleted. If one of these batches is reverted, the record is un-deleted and the old pre-overlay record is reinstated ( unless you have CatalogingLog on, then nothing happens do to a bug ).
The question becomes, is this the correct thing to do? If a record is deleted, shouldn't it stay deleted?
Please let me know what you think!
Kyle
http://www.kylehall.info ByWater Solutions ( http://bywatersolutions.com ) Meadville Public Library ( http://www.meadvillelibrary.org ) Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org ) Mill Run Technology Solutions ( http://millruntech.com ) _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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