We are considering to use Koha for a library at the Polish Cultural Foundation. The library has about 10,000 books which are mostly in Polish. The foundation is based in the U.S. and most patrons have computers configured with U.S. keyboard and they would not know or go to the trouble of localizing they keyboards to support Polish characters. Hence it is critical for us that the search can be performed using "normalized" keywords where all Polish special characters could be replaced with English "equivalents". For example, a city name "Łódź" could be found by typing "Lodz". So far we have experimented a little with Koha (I think version 2.2, but I am not sure since someone else configured it), and we were able to import some Polish titles and find them by entering exact Polish spelling, however, replacing special Polish characters with English equivalents did not seem to work. Does anyone know if "normalization" in searches can be done, and if so how to turn it on? If not, is it supported by any commercial version of Koha? Thank you in advance, Krzysztof __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2008/10/17 Krzysztof Wlodarski <iamkrzys@yahoo.com>
We are considering to use Koha for a library at the Polish Cultural Foundation <http://www.polishculturalfoundation.org/>. The library has about 10,000 books which are mostly in Polish. The foundation is based in the U.S. and most patrons have computers configured with U.S. keyboard and they would not know or go to the trouble of localizing they keyboards to support Polish characters. Hence it is critical for us that the search can be performed using "normalized" keywords where all Polish special characters could be replaced with English "equivalents". For example, a city name " Łódź <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lodz>" could be found by typing "Lodz".
So far we have experimented a little with Koha (I think version 2.2, but I am not sure since someone else configured it), and we were able to import some Polish titles and find them by entering exact Polish spelling, however, replacing special Polish characters with English equivalents did not seem to work.
Does anyone know if "normalization" in searches can be done, and if so how to turn it on?
If not, is it supported by any commercial version of Koha?
Thank you in advance,
Krzysztof
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It's worth finding out what version of Koha it is. The most recent version of Koha, 3.0, has a much better search tool, especially when the Zebra search server is used. -- Jesse Weaver Software Developer, LibLime
It's worth finding out what version of Koha it is. The most recent version of Koha, 3.0, has a much better search tool, especially when the Zebra search server is used.
You definitely need to use Koha 3 (in Zebra mode) to handle correctly extended characters. Thanks to Zebra, Koha 3, which is UNICODE compliant, can index any kind of characters. If default Koha Zebra configuration doesn't feet your needs (it is certainly the case), you can easily tweak it: http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/ Take a look specifically on that: http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/doc/character-map-files.tkl -- Frédéric DEMIANS http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html
I glanced at the documentation for character map file set, and it seems to be exactly what we need. Did anyone have luck installing Koha on Ubuntu? I tried installing Koha 2.2.9 on my Ubuntu box (8.4) few weeks ago but I got stuck on Yaz libraries. I am wondering here if I should install Debian instead... Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry! Krzysztof --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Frederic Demians <frederic@tamil.fr> wrote: From: Frederic Demians <frederic@tamil.fr> Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 2:32 AM
It's worth finding out what version of Koha it is. The most recent version of Koha, 3.0, has a much better search tool, especially when the Zebra search server is used.
You definitely need to use Koha 3 (in Zebra mode) to handle correctly extended characters. Thanks to Zebra, Koha 3, which is UNICODE compliant, can index any kind of characters. If default Koha Zebra configuration doesn't feet your needs (it is certainly the case), you can easily tweak it: http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/ Take a look specifically on that: http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/doc/character-map-files.tkl -- Frédéric DEMIANS http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
I didn't have any major problems installing Koha 3 on Ubuntu. A combination of these pages was helpful: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=ubuntu_feisty http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=ubuntu_gutsy -----Original Message----- From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz on behalf of Krzysztof Wlodarski Sent: Sun 10/19/2008 12:13 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz; Frederic Demians Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs I glanced at the documentation for character map file set, and it seems to be exactly what we need. Did anyone have luck installing Koha on Ubuntu? I tried installing Koha 2.2.9 on my Ubuntu box (8.4) few weeks ago but I got stuck on Yaz libraries. I am wondering here if I should install Debian instead... Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry! Krzysztof --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Frederic Demians <frederic@tamil.fr> wrote: From: Frederic Demians <frederic@tamil.fr> Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 2:32 AM
It's worth finding out what version of Koha it is. The most recent version of Koha, 3.0, has a much better search tool, especially when the Zebra search server is used.
You definitely need to use Koha 3 (in Zebra mode) to handle correctly extended characters. Thanks to Zebra, Koha 3, which is UNICODE compliant, can index any kind of characters. If default Koha Zebra configuration doesn't feet your needs (it is certainly the case), you can easily tweak it: http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/ Take a look specifically on that: http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/doc/character-map-files.tkl -- Frédéric DEMIANS http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
This looks quite informative and promising. I will give it a try when I get a bit of time. Thanks to everyone who offered thoughts & help! Krzysztof --- On Sun, 10/19/08, Winter, James <WinterJ@arcadia.edu> wrote: From: Winter, James <WinterJ@arcadia.edu> Subject: RE: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs To: krzys@math.nyu.edu, koha@lists.katipo.co.nz, "Frederic Demians" <frederic@tamil.fr> Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 3:50 PM I didn't have any major problems installing Koha 3 on Ubuntu. A combination of these pages was helpful: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=ubuntu_feisty http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=ubuntu_gutsy -----Original Message----- From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz on behalf of Krzysztof Wlodarski Sent: Sun 10/19/2008 12:13 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz; Frederic Demians Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs I glanced at the documentation for character map file set, and it seems to be exactly what we need. Did anyone have luck installing Koha on Ubuntu? I tried installing Koha 2.2.9 on my Ubuntu box (8.4) few weeks ago but I got stuck on Yaz libraries. I am wondering here if I should install Debian instead... Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry! Krzysztof --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Frederic Demians <frederic@tamil.fr> wrote: From: Frederic Demians <frederic@tamil.fr> Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 2:32 AM
It's worth finding out what version of Koha it is. The most recent version of Koha, 3.0, has a much better search tool, especially when the Zebra search server is used.
You definitely need to use Koha 3 (in Zebra mode) to handle correctly extended characters. Thanks to Zebra, Koha 3, which is UNICODE compliant, can index any kind of characters. If default Koha Zebra configuration doesn't feet your needs (it is certainly the case), you can easily tweak it: http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/ Take a look specifically on that: http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/doc/character-map-files.tkl -- Frédéric DEMIANS http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
I played a bit today with instructions for Ubuntu and it seems to me that indexdata reorganized their ftp site a bit, so these instructions may need an update: Install yaz Add the following lines to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian indexdata/sarge released deb-src http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian indexdata/sarge released Through some experiments I succeeded with this: deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/debian sarge main deb-src http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/debian sarge main If this appears right, then maybe someone would be willing to update the documentation for others to follow. Krzysztof --- On Sun, 10/19/08, Winter, James <WinterJ@arcadia.edu> wrote: From: Winter, James <WinterJ@arcadia.edu> Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs To: krzys@math.nyu.edu, koha@lists.katipo.co.nz, "Frederic Demians" <frederic@tamil.fr> Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 3:50 PM I didn't have any major problems installing Koha 3 on Ubuntu. A combination of these pages was helpful: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=ubuntu_feisty http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=ubuntu_gutsy -----Original Message----- From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz on behalf of Krzysztof Wlodarski Sent: Sun 10/19/2008 12:13 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz; Frederic Demians Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs I glanced at the documentation for character map file set, and it seems to be exactly what we need. Did anyone have luck installing Koha on Ubuntu? I tried installing Koha 2.2.9 on my Ubuntu box (8.4) few weeks ago but I got stuck on Yaz libraries. I am wondering here if I should install Debian instead... Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry! Krzysztof --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Frederic Demians <frederic@tamil.fr> wrote: From: Frederic Demians <frederic@tamil.fr> Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 2:32 AM
It's worth finding out what version of Koha it is. The most recent version of Koha, 3.0, has a much better search tool, especially when the Zebra search server is used.
You definitely need to use Koha 3 (in Zebra mode) to handle correctly extended characters. Thanks to Zebra, Koha 3, which is UNICODE compliant, can index any kind of characters. If default Koha Zebra configuration doesn't feet your needs (it is certainly the case), you can easily tweak it: http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/ Take a look specifically on that: http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/doc/character-map-files.tkl -- Frédéric DEMIANS http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
It's tricky. Because of the server name, it seems like those are FTP addresses, but they're really HTTP, and indexdata's Apache setup apparently uses something like mod_rewrite making these addresses identical: - http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian/ - http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/debian/ You are correct that the underlying FTP directory structure is under /pub/, but the instructions are correct for access via HTTP. Did you experience a problem when attempting to reference their source via HTTP? --Joe On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Krzysztof Wlodarski <iamkrzys@yahoo.com>wrote:
I played a bit today with instructions for Ubuntu and it seems to me that indexdata reorganized their ftp site a bit, so these instructions may need an update:
- Install yaz - Add the following lines to /etc/apt/sources.list:
deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian indexdata/sarge released deb-src http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian indexdata/sarge released
Through some experiments I succeeded with this:
deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/debian sarge main deb-src http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/debian sarge main
If this appears right, then maybe someone would be willing to update the documentation for others to follow.
Krzysztof
--- On *Sun, 10/19/08, Winter, James <WinterJ@arcadia.edu>* wrote:
From: Winter, James <WinterJ@arcadia.edu> Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs To: krzys@math.nyu.edu, koha@lists.katipo.co.nz, "Frederic Demians" < frederic@tamil.fr> Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 3:50 PM
I didn't have any major problems installing Koha 3 on Ubuntu.
A combination of these pages was helpful:
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=ubuntu_feisty http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=ubuntu_gutsy
-----Original Message----- From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz on behalf of Krzysztof Wlodarski Sent: Sun 10/19/2008 12:13 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz; Frederic Demians Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs
I glanced at the documentation for character map file set, and it seems to be exactly what we need.
Did anyone have luck installing Koha on Ubuntu? I tried installing Koha 2.2.9 on my Ubuntu box (8.4) few weeks ago but I got stuck on Yaz libraries. I am wondering here if I should install Debian instead...
Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry!
Krzysztof
--- On Sat, 10/18/08, Frederic Demians <frederic@tamil.fr> wrote: From: Frederic Demians <frederic@tamil.fr> Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 2:32 AM
It's worth finding out what version of Koha it is. The most recent version of Koha, 3.0, has a much better search tool, especially when the Zebra search server is used.
You definitely need to use Koha 3 (in Zebra mode) to handle correctly extended characters. Thanks to Zebra, Koha 3, which is UNICODE compliant, can index any kind of characters. If default Koha Zebra configuration doesn't feet your needs (it is certainly the case), you can easily tweak it:
http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/
Take a look specifically on that:
http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/doc/character-map-files.tkl
-- Frédéric DEMIANS http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html
I had the same problem that someone else posted today, i.e. apt-get update complained that it could not find the packages. --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Joe Atzberger <ohiocore@gmail.com> wrote: From: Joe Atzberger <ohiocore@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs To: krzys@math.nyu.edu Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:53 AM It's tricky. Because of the server name, it seems like those are FTP addresses, but they're really HTTP, and indexdata's Apache setup apparently uses something like mod_rewrite making these addresses identical: http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian/http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/debian/ You are correct that the underlying FTP directory structure is under /pub/, but the instructions are correct for access via HTTP. Did you experience a problem when attempting to reference their source via HTTP? --Joe On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Krzysztof Wlodarski <iamkrzys@yahoo.com> wrote: I played a bit today with instructions for Ubuntu and it seems to me that indexdata reorganized their ftp site a bit, so these instructions may need an update: Install yaz Add the following lines to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian indexdata/sarge released deb-src http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian indexdata/sarge released Through some experiments I succeeded with this: deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/debian sarge main deb-src http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/debian sarge main If this appears right, then maybe someone would be willing to update the documentation for others to follow. Krzysztof --- On Sun, 10/19/08, Winter, James <WinterJ@arcadia.edu> wrote: From: Winter, James <WinterJ@arcadia.edu> Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs To: krzys@math.nyu.edu, koha@lists.katipo.co.nz, "Frederic Demians" <frederic@tamil.fr> Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 3:50 PM I didn't have any major problems installing Koha 3 on Ubuntu. A combination of these pages was helpful: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=ubuntu_feisty http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=ubuntu_gutsy -----Original Message----- From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz on behalf of Krzysztof Wlodarski Sent: Sun 10/19/2008 12:13 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz; Frederic Demians Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs I glanced at the documentation for character map file set, and it seems to be exactly what we need. Did anyone have luck installing Koha on Ubuntu? I tried installing Koha 2.2.9 on my Ubuntu box (8.4) few weeks ago but I got stuck on Yaz libraries. I am wondering here if I should install Debian instead... Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry! Krzysztof --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Frederic Demians <frederic@tamil.fr> wrote: From: Frederic Demians <frederic@tamil.fr> Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha for library with special needs To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 2:32 AM
It's worth finding out what version of Koha it is. The most recent version of Koha, 3.0, has a much better search tool, especially when the Zebra search server is used.
You definitely need to use Koha 3 (in Zebra mode) to handle correctly extended characters. Thanks to Zebra, Koha 3, which is UNICODE compliant, can index any kind of characters. If default Koha Zebra configuration doesn't feet your needs (it is certainly the case), you can easily tweak it: http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/ Take a look specifically on that: http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/doc/character-map-files.tkl -- Frédéric DEMIANS http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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