Is it possible to have a circulation rule that targets location? In the past, we've had a diarrhea of item types to encode both a location and the kind of item, and this really isn't ideal. We'd like to revise our circulation rules to target locations, and therefore simplify our item types. Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology 402.363.5603 *jcoehoorn@york.edu <jcoehoorn@york.edu>* *Please contact helpdesk@york.edu <helpdesk@york.edu> for technical assistance.* The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and society
Hi Joel, at the moment circulation conditions can be tied to combinations of library, patron category and item types only. Locations cannot be used. Katrin On 26.06.19 21:39, Coehoorn, Joel wrote:
Is it possible to have a circulation rule that targets location? In the past, we've had a diarrhea of item types to encode both a location and the kind of item, and this really isn't ideal. We'd like to revise our circulation rules to target locations, and therefore simplify our item types.
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This seems like a major weakness. For just one example that is likely common, let's a book, or older issues of a periodical move from the normal part of the library to an "Archives" location that is more dense, and maybe climate controlled for preservation. The circulation rules for those items might be different, but the type of the item hasn't changed, only the location. Is there a feature request I can vote for or bugzilla # I can track to watch for this? Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology 402.363.5603 *jcoehoorn@york.edu <jcoehoorn@york.edu>* *Please contact helpdesk@york.edu <helpdesk@york.edu> for technical assistance.* The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and society On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer.83@web.de> wrote:
Hi Joel,
at the moment circulation conditions can be tied to combinations of library, patron category and item types only. Locations cannot be used.
Katrin
Is it possible to have a circulation rule that targets location? In the past, we've had a diarrhea of item types to encode both a location and
On 26.06.19 21:39, Coehoorn, Joel wrote: the
kind of item, and this really isn't ideal. We'd like to revise our circulation rules to target locations, and therefore simplify our item types.
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Joel, I am not sure if it helps, but in the example which you gave, you could make the archives its own library branch in Koha. You could then apply different circulation rules in that branch. FWIW, *Christopher Davis, MLS* Systems & E-Services Librarian Uintah County Library 204 E 100 N Vernal, UT 84078 (435) 789-0091 ext. 261 <tel:+14357890091> cgdavis@uintah.utah.gov <mailto:cgdavis@uintah.utah.gov> website: uintahlibrary.org <https://uintahlibrary.org> catalog: basinlibraries.org <https://basinlibraries.org> facebook.com/uintahcountylibrary <https://facebook.com/uintahcountylibrary> instagram.com/uintahcountylibrary <https://instagram.com/uintahcountylibrary> On 6/26/19 2:33 PM, Coehoorn, Joel wrote:
This seems like a major weakness.
For just one example that is likely common, let's a book, or older issues of a periodical move from the normal part of the library to an "Archives" location that is more dense, and maybe climate controlled for preservation. The circulation rules for those items might be different, but the type of the item hasn't changed, only the location.
Is there a feature request I can vote for or bugzilla # I can track to watch for this?
Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology 402.363.5603 *jcoehoorn@york.edu <jcoehoorn@york.edu>*
*Please contact helpdesk@york.edu <helpdesk@york.edu> for technical assistance.*
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On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer.83@web.de> wrote:
Hi Joel,
at the moment circulation conditions can be tied to combinations of library, patron category and item types only. Locations cannot be used.
Katrin
Is it possible to have a circulation rule that targets location? In the past, we've had a diarrhea of item types to encode both a location and
On 26.06.19 21:39, Coehoorn, Joel wrote: the
kind of item, and this really isn't ideal. We'd like to revise our circulation rules to target locations, and therefore simplify our item types.
Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology 402.363.5603 *jcoehoorn@york.edu <jcoehoorn@york.edu>*
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On 2019-06-26 4:33 p.m., Coehoorn, Joel wrote:
This seems like a major weakness.
Maybe more a "special case" rather than "major weakness" ... so ...
For just one example that is likely common, let's a book, or older issues of a periodical move from the normal part of the library to an "Archives" location that is more dense, and maybe climate controlled for preservation.
Maybe it's "common" -- we certainly deal with exactly this type of situation, and use MARC21 952$7 (somewhat successfully for us, maybe not exactly your challenge?) However, if that doesn't meet your needs, and as Katrin said: "library ... item types only. Locations cannot be used" So there are a couple of potential solutions: - You could have a "library" -- you might want to call "climate_controlled_holdings" (we call it "rare book room") where the rules can be a tad different - "item types" could be an option. When you transfer a periodical to your new holding area, just call it a "protected periodical" instead of "periodical" at the same time as giving it a new location code/name. Best -- Paul
The circulation rules for those items might be different, but the type of the item hasn't changed, only the location.
Is there a feature request I can vote for or bugzilla # I can track to watch for this?
Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology 402.363.5603 *jcoehoorn@york.edu <jcoehoorn@york.edu>*
*Please contact helpdesk@york.edu <helpdesk@york.edu> for technical assistance.*
The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and society
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer.83@web.de> wrote:
Hi Joel,
at the moment circulation conditions can be tied to combinations of library, patron category and item types only. Locations cannot be used.
Katrin
Is it possible to have a circulation rule that targets location? In the past, we've had a diarrhea of item types to encode both a location and
On 26.06.19 21:39, Coehoorn, Joel wrote: the
kind of item, and this really isn't ideal. We'd like to revise our circulation rules to target locations, and therefore simplify our item types.
Joel Coehoorn
I have never seen an ILS that uses Location for circulation rules, but I have always thought it was better than Item type . To the patron, a book is a book, but when staff need to change the loan period for a certain category of books, they have to create a new item type, such as 'REF-BOOK.' In large libraries, the extension of item types in the Advanced Search options can become so large that it's meaningless for end users who just want to limit a search to a "Book" Materials grouped together on the shelves tend to have the same loan period, but I have not seen that as a circ map component in any of the systems I've worked with in nearly three decades. It would be a nice feature. Chris Hoebeke Librarian & Head, Information Technology Services World Maritime Univerity On 6/26/19 10:22 PM, Katrin Fischer wrote:
Hi Joel,
at the moment circulation conditions can be tied to combinations of library, patron category and item types only. Locations cannot be used.
Katrin
On 26.06.19 21:39, Coehoorn, Joel wrote:
Is it possible to have a circulation rule that targets location? In the past, we've had a diarrhea of item types to encode both a location and the kind of item, and this really isn't ideal. We'd like to revise our circulation rules to target locations, and therefore simplify our item types.
Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology 402.363.5603 *jcoehoorn@york.edu <jcoehoorn@york.edu>*
*Please contact helpdesk@york.edu <helpdesk@york.edu> for technical assistance.*
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