Fwd: Access to British Library Z39.50 servers
Just in case anyone is experiencing difficulty with the British Library servers - there's a reason for it and it should be temporary. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lowery, John <John.Lowery@bl.uk> Date: Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:20 AM Subject: Access to British Library Z39.50 servers To: "Lowery, John" <John.Lowery@bl.uk> Cc: "Tiplady, John" <John.Tiplady@bl.uk> Due to problems with our servers you may be experiencing intermittent connection problems to our MARC Z39.50 service. We are currently working on upgrading our servers and hope to have this work completed in the next 2 – 3 weeks. Please accept our apologies for this problem and thank you for your patience while we resolve the problem. Regards John ------------------------------ [image: British Library Logo - www.bl.uk] <http://www.bl.uk/> *John Lowery** **Online Systems Analyst** **Metadata Services* *THE BRITISH LIBRARY** **Boston Spa** **WETHERBY** **West Yorkshire** **LS23 7BQ** **United Kingdom** **www.bl.uk* *T +44 (0) 1937 546551** **F +44 (0) 1937 546586** **john.lowery@bl.uk* ------------------------------ ************************************************************************** Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk The British Library’s new interactive Annual Report and Accounts 2009/10 : www.bl.uk/knowledge Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. Adopt a Book. www.bl.uk/adoptabook The Library's St Pancras site is WiFi - enabled ************************************************************************* The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the postmaster@bl.uk : The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed or copied without the sender's consent. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the British Library. The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. ************************************************************************* Think before you print -- Elaine Bradtke Data Wrangler VWML English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 ext 36 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registered Company No. 297142 Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
Is the British Library access a paid service, or is it an open service? We have the occasional British Title in which it would help to have access to MARC records. If it is open, what are the Koha z3950 parameters? Thanks. Hal Bright, Adult Services Manager Farmington Libraries, 6 Monteith Dr, Farmington, CT 06032 Phone: (860) 673-6791 Fax: (860) 675-7148 hbright@farmingtonlibraries.org --- On Tue, 3/8/11, Elaine Bradtke <eb@efdss.org> wrote: From: Elaine Bradtke <eb@efdss.org> Subject: [Koha] Fwd: Access to British Library Z39.50 servers To: "koha" <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 4:58 AM Just in case anyone is experiencing difficulty with the British Library servers - there's a reason for it and it should be temporary. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lowery, John <John.Lowery@bl.uk> Date: Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:20 AM Subject: Access to British Library Z39.50 servers To: "Lowery, John" <John.Lowery@bl.uk> Cc: "Tiplady, John" <John.Tiplady@bl.uk> Due to problems with our servers you may be experiencing intermittent connection problems to our MARC Z39.50 service. We are currently working on upgrading our servers and hope to have this work completed in the next 2 – 3 weeks. Please accept our apologies for this problem and thank you for your patience while we resolve the problem. Regards John John Lowery Online Systems Analyst Metadata Services THE BRITISH LIBRARY Boston Spa WETHERBY West Yorkshire LS23 7BQ United Kingdom www.bl.uk T +44 (0) 1937 546551 F +44 (0) 1937 546586 john.lowery@bl.uk Is ************************************************************************** Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk The British Library’s new interactive Annual Report and Accounts 2009/10 : www.bl.uk/knowledge Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. Adopt a Book. www.bl.uk/adoptabook The Library's St Pancras site is WiFi - enabled ************************************************************************* The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the postmaster@bl.uk : The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed or copied without the sender's consent. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the British Library. The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. ************************************************************************* Think before you print -- Elaine Bradtke Data Wrangler VWML English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 ext 36 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registered Company No. 297142 Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52) -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
You can find the info here: http://irspy.indexdata.com/full.html?id=Z39.50%3Az3950cat.bl.uk%3A9909%2FBLACit's open. Nicole 2011/3/8 Hal Bright <hbright@farmingtonlibraries.org>
Is the British Library access a paid service, or is it an open service? We have the occasional British Title in which it would help to have access to MARC records.
If it is open, what are the Koha z3950 parameters?
Thanks.
Hal Bright, Adult Services Manager Farmington Libraries, 6 Monteith Dr, Farmington, CT 06032 Phone: (860) 673-6791 Fax: (860) 675-7148 hbright@farmingtonlibraries.org
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From: Elaine Bradtke <eb@efdss.org> Subject: [Koha] Fwd: Access to British Library Z39.50 servers To: "koha" <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 4:58 AM
Just in case anyone is experiencing difficulty with the British Library servers - there's a reason for it and it should be temporary.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Lowery, John* <John.Lowery@bl.uk<http://mc/compose?to=John.Lowery@bl.uk>
Date: Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:20 AM Subject: Access to British Library Z39.50 servers To: "Lowery, John" <John.Lowery@bl.uk<http://mc/compose?to=John.Lowery@bl.uk>
Cc: "Tiplady, John" <John.Tiplady@bl.uk<http://mc/compose?to=John.Tiplady@bl.uk>
Due to problems with our servers you may be experiencing intermittent connection problems to our MARC Z39.50 service. We are currently working on upgrading our servers and hope to have this work completed in the next 2 – 3 weeks.
Please accept our apologies for this problem and thank you for your patience while we resolve the problem.
Regards
John
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The only Z3950 host in the UK that I've used is at Oxford host=library.ox.ac.uk port=210 db=MAIN*BIBMAST syntax=USMARC The British Library server mentioned below (Z3950cat.bl.uk) returns SUTRS syntax not MARC. -- Bob On 03/08/2011 12:44 PM, Hal Bright wrote:
Is the British Library access a paid service, or is it an open service? We have the occasional British Title in which it would help to have access to MARC records.
If it is open, what are the Koha z3950 parameters?
Thanks.
Hal Bright, Adult Services Manager Farmington Libraries, 6 Monteith Dr, Farmington, CT 06032 Phone: (860) 673-6791 Fax: (860) 675-7148 hbright@farmingtonlibraries.org
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From: Elaine Bradtke <eb@efdss.org> Subject: [Koha] Fwd: Access to British Library Z39.50 servers To: "koha" <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 4:58 AM
Just in case anyone is experiencing difficulty with the British Library servers - there's a reason for it and it should be temporary.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Lowery, John* <John.Lowery@bl.uk </mc/compose?to=John.Lowery@bl.uk>> Date: Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:20 AM Subject: Access to British Library Z39.50 servers To: "Lowery, John" <John.Lowery@bl.uk </mc/compose?to=John.Lowery@bl.uk>> Cc: "Tiplady, John" <John.Tiplady@bl.uk </mc/compose?to=John.Tiplady@bl.uk>>
Due to problems with our servers you may be experiencing intermittent connection problems to our MARC Z39.50 service. We are currently working on upgrading our servers and hope to have this work completed in the next 2 – 3 weeks.
Please accept our apologies for this problem and thank you for your patience while we resolve the problem.
Regards
John
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Bob Ewart wrote:
The British Library server mentioned below (Z3950cat.bl.uk) returns SUTRS syntax not MARC.
Some libraries can register for an account which can get MARC21, but it has an anti-social non-commercial restriction which has implications if you ever want to share your records. http://www.bl.uk/bibliographic/data.html BL is making some data available as Open Bibliographic Data (which we endorse http://openbiblio.net/principles/endorse/ ) so hopefully that will change in the future. Hope that informs, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. http://koha-community.org supporter, web and LMS developer, statistician. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire for Koha work http://www.software.coop/products/koha
On 03/09/2011 04:42 AM, MJ Ray wrote:
Bob Ewart wrote:
The British Library server mentioned below (Z3950cat.bl.uk) returns SUTRS syntax not MARC.
Some libraries can register for an account which can get MARC21, but it has an anti-social non-commercial restriction which has implications if you ever want to share your records. http://www.bl.uk/bibliographic/data.html
BL is making some data available as Open Bibliographic Data (which we endorse http://openbiblio.net/principles/endorse/ ) so hopefully that will change in the future.
Hope that informs,
Thank you. Their non-sharing restriction probably means that setting up a Z3950 server would be out. I'm wondering about the MARC display available under OPAC. I'm guessing that would probably not get them too upset. I've found most of our books from AMICUS or the Library of Congress. Occasionally I've had to go to the Oxford library. AMICUS (amicus.collectionscanada.gc.ca, port 210, database ANY) does require registration. A lot of British books are in their database. Go to http://amicus.collectionscanada.gc.ca/amicus-bin/self_register?l=0 to register. -- Bob
We use some BL records in our catalogue. I e-mailed them explaining our interest and proposed use and they signed us up for the MARC21 service. It is my understanding that they don't want someone skimming their data and reselling it. Nor do they want bulk Z39.50 queries. But as we were not planning to do either, they gave us access. It doesn't hurt to contact them and ask about your particular situation, I found them helpful. We also use Oxford's server, especially for some of the older stuff in our collection. On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Bob Ewart <bob-ewart@bobsown.com> wrote:
On 03/09/2011 04:42 AM, MJ Ray wrote:
Bob Ewart wrote:
The British Library server mentioned below (Z3950cat.bl.uk) returns SUTRS syntax not MARC.
Some libraries can register for an account which can get MARC21, but it has an anti-social non-commercial restriction which has implications if you ever want to share your records. http://www.bl.uk/bibliographic/data.html
BL is making some data available as Open Bibliographic Data (which we endorse http://openbiblio.net/principles/endorse/ ) so hopefully that will change in the future.
Hope that informs,
Thank you.
Their non-sharing restriction probably means that setting up a Z3950 server would be out.
I'm wondering about the MARC display available under OPAC. I'm guessing that would probably not get them too upset.
I've found most of our books from AMICUS or the Library of Congress. Occasionally I've had to go to the Oxford library.
AMICUS (amicus.collectionscanada.gc.ca, port 210, database ANY) does require registration. A lot of British books are in their database. Go to http://amicus.collectionscanada.gc.ca/amicus-bin/self_register?l=0 to register.
-- Bob
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On 10/03/11 13:51, Elaine Bradtke wrote:
We use some BL records in our catalogue. I e-mailed them explaining our interest and proposed use and they signed us up for the MARC21 service. It is my understanding that they don't want someone skimming their data and reselling it. Nor do they want bulk Z39.50 queries. But as we were not planning to do either, they gave us access. It doesn't hurt to contact them and ask about your particular situation, I found them helpful. We also use Oxford's server, especially for some of the older stuff in our collection.
Also there are other copyright libraries in the UK & Ireland so you might want to try the National Libraries of Wales and Scotland, Trinity College, Oxford, Cambridge and a lot of academic sites are searchable by z39.50 Colin -- Colin Campbell Chief Software Engineer, PTFS Europe Limited Content Management and Library Solutions +44 (0) 845 557 5634 (phone) +44 (0) 7759 633626 (mobile) colin.campbell@ptfs-europe.com skype: colin_campbell2 http://www.ptfs-europe.com
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