On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 06:37 -0400, Joshua Ferraro wrote:

Hey Ken,

Could you resend your email, and make sure it's CCed to the koha list?

Josh

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Ken Lomax <ken@lomax.gen.nz> wrote:

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Hi Joshua

Thanks for your prompt reply.

It basically appears to be a perl problem in that I cannot get all the perl modules to install and therefore cannot get past that point in the koha installer. Some modules do install, and quite easly. CPAN is working on the system and I have upgraded Bundle::CPAN without problems. It did require me to install perl-CPAN (with yum) on fedora 8 and once I realized that then CPAN itself is no longer a problem.

The koha installer gives me a list of perl modules that are required and some optional modules. I have been installing these one-by-one (in the order given) using "perl -MCPAN -e 'install "abc::def"'. Some of these install easily and others that dont have given me clues as to required dependences (such as lexslt --which requires tcp_wrappers). My previous (and working) install did not allow me to install some of the optional barcode modules and in particular Barcode::Code128 is particularly troublesome on both old and new servers.

However MARC::File::XML does not want to install and is not giving me any clues that I can find. A force install does not work.

To me, it is a mute point as to whether this is a perl problem or a koha problem, although I understand your point. I do not use these modules for any other program. It appears that the developers are trying to solve this problem with the new install-CPAN.pl file in version 3, and I would love to use this if I can get over the permission problem. Do I need to put the tar.gz file in a special place? I currently have both it and the unzipped folder on the Desktop (/root/Desktop/koha-*) at the moment.

I am not with my server at the moment, but can give more specific information this evening. What would you find particularly helpful?

I have read INSTALL extensively and followed it as much as possible to the letter. I have not looked at INSTALL.debian as being for another distro, but will look at it tonight.

Thanks and regards Ken Lomax

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On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Ken Lomax <ken@lomax.gen.nz> wrote:

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Hi

I have previously installed Koha on machines (twice successfully and twice unsuccessfully), although each time with *considerable* difficulty.

I have a working 2.2.9 version on my server (which is also being used for other services). The is a small SOHO network and the server also provides other services to the network. It is to contain a very small (about 600 item) library for personal/professional use.

I need to replace the server hardware and am setting up a machine with Fedora 8. I have spent the last four days trying to get Koha installed on this machine (both 2.2.9 and 3.0-beta) without success. Wow, that's a long time.

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I have been trying on a brand new and clean install. However I have not been able to get all the perl modules to install-in particular some of the XML ones, eg. MARC::File::XML. A number of others I have only been able to install with considerable research and manual installation of "dependencies". They quite often suggest that force install is used, but this also always fails. I was once able to get MARC::File::XML to install by downloading source, but the koha installer refused to accept that it was installed.

The install-CPAN. pl installer on version 3.0 keeps telling me i do not have rights to access/install the .tgz file, even though I am working as root. Hmmm, that might be a deprecated script, I'm not certain. Anyone else know? It sounds like MARC::File::XML install from CPAN isn't working on Fedora, would you characterize that as a Koha install problem or a M::F::X problem? It would be great to have an RPM for Koha Perl modules available, but I think the developers are probably a bit tied up working on koha-specific issues at the moment.

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I also had considerable trouble with Zebra but eventually was able to install a rpm from the idzebra site from FC6. I think this was successful, but have been unable to confirm its operation. Sounds like Zebra is also hard to install on Fedora ... again, is this a Koha install problem or a Zebra install one?

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I have got to the end of my tether on this, and have not been able to find any other suggestions on the Internet. I apologise if there is something under my nose that I have not been able to find, but can any one give guidance or point me to sutable resources. I have looked at all the documentation on the koha.org site as well as doing google searches. Installing this program should *not* be this difficult. Did you see the INSTALL and INSTALL.debian files in the Koha distribution?

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I have considerable experience with fedora systems (please do not suggest installing an other distro--it is not an option for me and I dont want a flame war on that subject), but have only had minor experience with perl. I have been able to come to grips with perl -MCPAN -e 'install "xyz::abc"' but have little further experience. Is it a perl thing that I am not understanding? Not sure yet, I think we need more information about the specific problems you're having. Is CPAN not working for you on Fedora?

Cheers,

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