Hi there, If you can't find the record in any other Z39.50 catalog, you will indeed need to catalog it from scratch. To create a new record, click on "New record" and choose a cataloging framework (frameworks are cataloging "forms" if you will). There usually is a "Fast Add" option that will only have basic fields. If you are really new at cataloging, you can also copy a record you already have and start from there. In the record, click on Edit > Edit as new (duplicate). This will look as if you're editing the record, but you are in fact creating a copy. That way you can look at what information is in which field and learn what goes where at the same time. If you are cataloging in MARC21, here are the basic fields (other than the aforementioned leader (000), 005 and 008) - ISBN: 020$a - Main author: 100$a (there can only be one main author) - Title: 245$a - Place of publication: 264$a - Publisher: 264$b - Year of publication: 264$c - Number of pages: 300$a - Collection: 490$a - Summary: 520$a - Subject: 650$a (one 650 field per subject, click on the button that looks like two superimposed rectangles to create a new field of the same type, click on that button next to the title of the 650 field) - Secondary authors: 700$a (one 700 field per additional author) - Web link: 856$u If you fill out most of these, you should have simple but very nice and workable records. As long as your users are able to find them, that's the important part. Caroline On 2022-05-13 15:35, Tami Wilkerson wrote:

You need to remove the dashes in ISBNs when doing a Z39.50 search.

Tami

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Having added a first test item, I thought I would try to add to the catalog the dozen or so books that happened to be on a desk on the library.

I tried to search by ISBN, and the next two books were at least technically findable on Amazon by ISBN, but did not come up in the Z39.50/SRU search. They were, respectively:

St. Tikhon's Seminary Press: The Great Book of Needs, Volume III: The Occasional Services, South Canaan: St. Tikhon's Seminary Press, 1999, 1-878997-58-0

Cavarnos, Constantine, Modern Orthodox Saints: St. Cosmas Aitolos, Belmont: Instirute for Byzantine and Modern Greek Studies, 1971, 0-914744-29-1

The library contains books that people have heard about, and obscurities.

If a book does not come up by ISBN, how should I be approaching entering a book for which I can find standard bibliographic information? Would it be appropriate to click on "New Record," populate a record with the fields I have (possibly incomplete) and then try to save, navigating to any mandatory fields I haven't filled in?

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And furthermore, though this isn't the problem you're facing, "LC isn't a great resource to be doing batch searching. LC enforces limits to number of queries per minute and records per session. If you are doing concurrent queries, you'll hit the limits and results may vary as a result." (Terry Reese, on the MarcEdit list.) Now I'm going to have to find another primary source of records for my Koha/MarcEdit demos. Fred King, MSLS, AHIP Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center fred.king@medstar.net 202-877-6670 ORCID 0000-0001-5266-0279 MedStar Authors Catalog: http://medstarauthors.org A lot of people cry when they cut an onion. The trick is not to form an emotional bond. --Trad -----Original Message----- From: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> On Behalf Of Bruce A. Metcalf Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 12:55 PM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Koha] Very, very beginner question: Followup **ATTENTION: This email originated from outside the MedStar Health network. ** DO NOT CLICK links or attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. C.S. Hayward wrote:

Having added a first test item, I thought I would try to add to the catalog the dozen or so books that happened to be on a desk on the library.

I tried to search by ISBN, and the next two books were at least technically findable on Amazon by ISBN, but did not come up in the Z39.50/SRU search.

I am curious as to which Z39.50 resources you are using. LC does not contain all books. Indeed, I find I need to use five primary Z39.50s to cover most books I catalog, with another 35 held in reserve for the very rare. I would expect to see most books on Amazon represented in LC, but they skip many foreign publishers. Oxford is my primary backup. Regards, / Bruce / Bruce A. Metcalf Augustan Library _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://koha-community.org__;!!D7IIWT94AA!-l8oK4n... Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Unsubscribe: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MedStar Health is a not-for-profit, integrated healthcare delivery system, the largest in Maryland and the Washington, D.C., region. Nationally recognized for clinical quality in heart, orthopedics, cancer and GI. IMPORTANT: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain information that is private, confidential, or protected by attorney-client or other privilege. If you received this e-mail in error, please delete it from your system without copying it and notify sender by reply e-mail, so that our records can be corrected... Thank you. Help conserve valuable resources - only print this email if necessary.

Hi there, The answer to the first question is in the system preferences. In order to be able to manually enter author names and subjects, you need to set BiblioAddsAuthorities to 'allow'. As for your second question, I think you mean how to add Z39.50 servers to search. You can do that in Administration > Z39.50/SRU servers. The site https://irspy.indexdata.com/find.html can help you find servers to add. (Authorities in library speak refer to a specific kind of record used for names and subject headings.) As for which servers to add, I wouldn't really know. Maybe university libraries since the texts you seem to catalog seem very specialized. I hope this helps, Caroline On 2022-05-18 14:19, C.S. Hayward wrote:

I have three followup questions.

First, I've noticed that I can directly enter data into 245$a, but 100$a and 110$a appear to be locked (screenshot available on request). This is after clicking on "New Record" and navigating to the 100's tab. What should I be doing to be allowed to manually enter an individual or corporate author's name?

Second, if I should be entering all the authorities that have been mentioned in replies for a Z49 search, how do I add a URL? (One respondent, for instance, mentioned "Oxford" as the text of a hyperlink that I assume is what I will want to enter in the appropriate place. Same for a URL for the General Theological Seminary.)

Third, are there any authorities I should be searching besides those pointed out to me by list members?

Thanks, Br. C.S. Hayward

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Having added a first test item, I thought I would try to add to the catalog the dozen or so books that happened to be on a desk on the library.

I tried to search by ISBN, and the next two books were at least technically findable on Amazon by ISBN, but did not come up in the Z39.50/SRU search. They were, respectively:

St. Tikhon's Seminary Press: The Great Book of Needs, Volume III: The Occasional Services, South Canaan: St. Tikhon's Seminary Press, 1999, 1-878997-58-0

Cavarnos, Constantine, Modern Orthodox Saints: St. Cosmas Aitolos, Belmont: Instirute for Byzantine and Modern Greek Studies, 1971, 0-914744-29-1

The library contains books that people have heard about, and obscurities.

If a book does not come up by ISBN, how should I be approaching entering a book for which I can find standard bibliographic information? Would it be appropriate to click on "New Record," populate a record with the fields I have (possibly incomplete) and then try to save, navigating to any mandatory fields I haven't filled in?

Thanks,

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On 5/18/22 15:41, Caroline Cyr La Rose wrote:

As for which servers to add, I wouldn't really know. Maybe university libraries since the texts you seem to catalog seem very specialized.

I select new servers by first looking up items in WorldCat <https://www.worldcat.org/> to see who holds it. I then look up Z39.50 servers in IRSpy <http://irspy.indexdata.com> to see if any of the holding libraries have open Z39.50 servers, and add them to my list. Note that IRSpy lists Connection Reliability. Those showing 0% reliability are either closed, private, or dead, so don't bother with them. If anyone else has a useful list of Z39.50 servers, I'd appreciate hearing about them. Cheers, / Bruce / Bruce A. Metcalf Augustan Library