Customized MARC21 framework
As I understand, a valid way to have a customized framework (as most compatible as possible) is: 1. Go to MARC frameworks 2. Esport "BASE" (default) framework to CSV format 3. Edit file with a text editor and remove all lines except: - Headings - Mask lines ("#-#") - Desired subtags to be used finally - The tags that have selected subtags 4. Create +New framework 5. Import edited file to new created framework. Am I right to patrons use it for cataloguing? Thanks.
Hi Narcis, better to hide the fields using the hidden values documented on the wiki (https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hidden_values) than to delete the fields and subfields you don't need. Deleting some of the fields like 000 and 999 can lead to errors. Also when you import data and the records contain deleted fields, the information in them will be lost on saving the item. Hope this helps, Katrin On 14.03.2018 17:41, Narcis Garcia wrote:
As I understand, a valid way to have a customized framework (as most compatible as possible) is:
1. Go to MARC frameworks
2. Esport "BASE" (default) framework to CSV format
3. Edit file with a text editor and remove all lines except: - Headings - Mask lines ("#-#") - Desired subtags to be used finally - The tags that have selected subtags
4. Create +New framework
5. Import edited file to new created framework.
Am I right to patrons use it for cataloguing?
Thanks. _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Including whole MARC21 specification (hidden or not), does Koha write the 4000 subtags for each item record in database?! El 19/03/18 a les 07:46, Katrin Fischer ha escrit:
Hi Narcis,
better to hide the fields using the hidden values documented on the wiki (https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hidden_values) than to delete the fields and subfields you don't need. Deleting some of the fields like 000 and 999 can lead to errors. Also when you import data and the records contain deleted fields, the information in them will be lost on saving the item.
Hope this helps,
Katrin
On 14.03.2018 17:41, Narcis Garcia wrote:
As I understand, a valid way to have a customized framework (as most compatible as possible) is:
1. Go to MARC frameworks
2. Esport "BASE" (default) framework to CSV format
3. Edit file with a text editor and remove all lines except: - Headings - Mask lines ("#-#") - Desired subtags to be used finally - The tags that have selected subtags
4. Create +New framework
5. Import edited file to new created framework.
Am I right to patrons use it for cataloguing?
Thanks. _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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Of course not! El lun., 19 de mar. de 2018 7:59 a. m., Narcis Garcia <informatica@actiu.net> escribió:
Including whole MARC21 specification (hidden or not), does Koha write the 4000 subtags for each item record in database?!
El 19/03/18 a les 07:46, Katrin Fischer ha escrit:
Hi Narcis,
better to hide the fields using the hidden values documented on the wiki (https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hidden_values) than to delete the fields and subfields you don't need. Deleting some of the fields like 000 and 999 can lead to errors. Also when you import data and the records contain deleted fields, the information in them will be lost on saving the item.
Hope this helps,
Katrin
On 14.03.2018 17:41, Narcis Garcia wrote:
As I understand, a valid way to have a customized framework (as most compatible as possible) is:
1. Go to MARC frameworks
2. Esport "BASE" (default) framework to CSV format
3. Edit file with a text editor and remove all lines except: - Headings - Mask lines ("#-#") - Desired subtags to be used finally - The tags that have selected subtags
4. Create +New framework
5. Import edited file to new created framework.
Am I right to patrons use it for cataloguing?
Thanks. _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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I've tried both with 5 and 8 values for hidden column in CSV export, then import to a Koha framework, (checkboxes sown consistent when editing subfields with Koha), but the only effect is for "Collapsed" attribute. No effect with !OPAC !Intranet !Editor ; Anyway the subfields supposed to be hidden are there when I use that framework for cataloguing. Is this a Koha 17.11 bug? Some workaround to have a simple cataloguing form based on my selected subfields? Thanks. El 19/03/18 a les 12:01, Tomas Cohen Arazi ha escrit:
Of course not!
El lun., 19 de mar. de 2018 7:59 a. m., Narcis Garcia <informatica@actiu.net <mailto:informatica@actiu.net>> escribió:
Including whole MARC21 specification (hidden or not), does Koha write the 4000 subtags for each item record in database?!
El 19/03/18 a les 07:46, Katrin Fischer ha escrit: > Hi Narcis, > > better to hide the fields using the hidden values documented on the wiki > (https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hidden_values) than to delete the > fields and subfields you don't need. Deleting some of the fields like > 000 and 999 can lead to errors. Also when you import data and the > records contain deleted fields, the information in them will be lost on > saving the item. > > Hope this helps, > > Katrin > > > On 14.03.2018 17:41, Narcis Garcia wrote: >> As I understand, a valid way to have a customized framework (as most >> compatible as possible) is: >> >> 1. Go to MARC frameworks >> >> 2. Esport "BASE" (default) framework to CSV format >> >> 3. Edit file with a text editor and remove all lines except: >> - Headings >> - Mask lines ("#-#") >> - Desired subtags to be used finally >> - The tags that have selected subtags >> >> 4. Create +New framework >> >> 5. Import edited file to new created framework. >> >> >> Am I right to patrons use it for cataloguing? >> >> Thanks. >> _______________________________________________ >> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org >> Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> >> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha > > _______________________________________________ > Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org > Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> > https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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Hi Narcis, 5 or 8 seem about right: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hidden_values Have you checked your framework loaded correctly? You could use SQL to check the hidden value set in the database and also verify the settings in the GUI under administration > bibliographic marc frameworks. Katrin On 26.03.2018 20:00, Narcis Garcia wrote:
I've tried both with 5 and 8 values for hidden column in CSV export, then import to a Koha framework, (checkboxes sown consistent when editing subfields with Koha), but the only effect is for "Collapsed" attribute. No effect with !OPAC !Intranet !Editor ; Anyway the subfields supposed to be hidden are there when I use that framework for cataloguing. Is this a Koha 17.11 bug?
Some workaround to have a simple cataloguing form based on my selected subfields?
Thanks.
El 19/03/18 a les 12:01, Tomas Cohen Arazi ha escrit:
Of course not!
El lun., 19 de mar. de 2018 7:59 a. m., Narcis Garcia <informatica@actiu.net <mailto:informatica@actiu.net>> escribió:
Including whole MARC21 specification (hidden or not), does Koha write the 4000 subtags for each item record in database?!
El 19/03/18 a les 07:46, Katrin Fischer ha escrit: > Hi Narcis, > > better to hide the fields using the hidden values documented on the wiki > (https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hidden_values) than to delete the > fields and subfields you don't need. Deleting some of the fields like > 000 and 999 can lead to errors. Also when you import data and the > records contain deleted fields, the information in them will be lost on > saving the item. > > Hope this helps, > > Katrin > > > On 14.03.2018 17:41, Narcis Garcia wrote: >> As I understand, a valid way to have a customized framework (as most >> compatible as possible) is: >> >> 1. Go to MARC frameworks >> >> 2. Esport "BASE" (default) framework to CSV format >> >> 3. Edit file with a text editor and remove all lines except: >> - Headings >> - Mask lines ("#-#") >> - Desired subtags to be used finally >> - The tags that have selected subtags >> >> 4. Create +New framework >> >> 5. Import edited file to new created framework. >> >> >> Am I right to patrons use it for cataloguing? >> >> Thanks. >> _______________________________________________ >> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org >> Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> >> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha > > _______________________________________________ > Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org > Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> > https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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Koha stores the MARC record as XML. Only the fields and subfields that are set in the record and additionally limited to the fields and subfields defined in the framework it belongs to. On 19.03.2018 11:58, Narcis Garcia wrote:
Including whole MARC21 specification (hidden or not), does Koha write the 4000 subtags for each item record in database?!
El 19/03/18 a les 07:46, Katrin Fischer ha escrit:
Hi Narcis,
better to hide the fields using the hidden values documented on the wiki (https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hidden_values) than to delete the fields and subfields you don't need. Deleting some of the fields like 000 and 999 can lead to errors. Also when you import data and the records contain deleted fields, the information in them will be lost on saving the item.
Hope this helps,
Katrin
On 14.03.2018 17:41, Narcis Garcia wrote:
As I understand, a valid way to have a customized framework (as most compatible as possible) is:
1. Go to MARC frameworks
2. Esport "BASE" (default) framework to CSV format
3. Edit file with a text editor and remove all lines except: - Headings - Mask lines ("#-#") - Desired subtags to be used finally - The tags that have selected subtags
4. Create +New framework
5. Import edited file to new created framework.
Am I right to patrons use it for cataloguing?
Thanks. _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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