The librarian has asked me to investigate an issue where when she using Z39.50 to search for a biblio and then proceeds through the process of adding it and an item, she is left with a record that is forever in the reservoir. I've looked around online and in the mailing list and I haven't found anything like this... Being the 'IT' guy and not the librarian, I'm trying to gather how it all works as well. Best I can work out you can add individual records with Z39.50 from the cataloging screen which will at the end add it into the catalogue or you can perform a staged marc import. What our librarian needs to do is import 1 off books and not staged batches. So I would assuming using the Z39.50 search button, adding the biblio and then an item would be all that is needed to complete this task. Is this correct? If it is correct, the records are going into a reservoir instead of the catalogue. I can find online that the reservoir is used with the staged method but I can't find anything that says it is used elsewhere. How can records be released into the catalogue using the 1 off method instead of the staged method? I has been mentioned that this behaviour has changed since we upgraded Koha for them. Apparently before the upgrade, the 1 off books could be imported in this method. Is something broken or am I missing something somewhere? I also found a website that mentioned the need for an ongoing cron job with misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z. I've manually executing this to see if it would import the reservoir items but it hasn't changed anything... Any help would be greatly appreciated! Seth Mayo IT Technical Manager Email: smayo@stpeters.nsw.edu.au ------------------------------------------------------- St Peter's Anglican Primary School Howe Street Campbelltown NSW 2560 PH: 02 4627 2990 DID: 02 8203 1368 Website: http://www.stpeters.nsw.edu.au
Op 08-08-12 04:48, Seth Mayo schreef:
The librarian has asked me to investigate an issue where when she using Z39.50 to search for a biblio and then proceeds through the process of adding it and an item, she is left with a record that is forever in the reservoir.
I think the help for the cataloguing homepage could do with some updating to better explain what the options do, however the way I'd consider doing one-off entries is: 1. Go to "cataloguing" 2. Select "New record" and pick the framework This gives you the MARC entry fields 3. From there, use Z39.50 Search. This will populate the fields on the screen with the results of the search. Then when you save, this should go straight into the catalogue. To work with the reservoir, go to Tools -> Staged MARC record management. -- Robin Sheat Catalyst IT Ltd. ✆ +64 4 803 2204 GPG: 5957 6D23 8B16 EFAB FEF8 7175 14D3 6485 A99C EB6D
I've followed these directions and there was no difference in result or what I had already attempted. It doesn't matter how I add a biblio, it looks like it never moves from reservoir to catalogue. It is very strange all around. Once you 'add' a biblio, you can enter in the item details and then you'll find that the biblio was added into the reservoir and the item details you typed have disappeared into cyberspace. Any other ideas? Seth Mayo IT Technical Manager Email: smayo@stpeters.nsw.edu.au ------------------------------------------------------- St Peter's Anglican Primary School Howe Street Campbelltown NSW 2560 PH: 02 4627 2990 DID: 02 8203 1368 Website: http://www.stpeters.nsw.edu.au On 8 August 2012 19:03, Robin Sheat <robin@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
Op 08-08-12 04:48, Seth Mayo schreef:
The librarian has asked me to investigate an issue where when she using Z39.50 to search for a biblio and then proceeds through the process of adding it and an item, she is left with a record that is forever in the reservoir.
I think the help for the cataloguing homepage could do with some updating to better explain what the options do, however the way I'd consider doing one-off entries is:
1. Go to "cataloguing" 2. Select "New record" and pick the framework This gives you the MARC entry fields 3. From there, use Z39.50 Search. This will populate the fields on the screen with the results of the search.
Then when you save, this should go straight into the catalogue.
To work with the reservoir, go to Tools -> Staged MARC record management.
-- Robin Sheat Catalyst IT Ltd. ✆ +64 4 803 2204 GPG: 5957 6D23 8B16 EFAB FEF8 7175 14D3 6485 A99C EB6D _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
* Seth Mayo (smayo@stpeters.nsw.edu.au) wrote:
I've followed these directions and there was no difference in result or what I had already attempted.
It doesn't matter how I add a biblio, it looks like it never moves from reservoir to catalogue. It is very strange all around. Once you 'add' a biblio, you can enter in the item details and then you'll find that the biblio was added into the reservoir and the item details you typed have disappeared into cyberspace.
Any other ideas?
Sounds to me like your zebra reindex job is not running. Things aren't moved from the reservoir, they are copied, so it will still be in the reservoir if it is the catalogue or not. When you add one, check the url, and see what the biblionumber is. Then in the database (or in reports) SELECT * FROM biblioitems where biblionumber = that_number If it's in the db, its in the catalogue, and its just your cron job to reindex is not running (or failing) Chris
Seth Mayo IT Technical Manager Email: smayo@stpeters.nsw.edu.au ------------------------------------------------------- St Peter's Anglican Primary School Howe Street Campbelltown NSW 2560 PH: 02 4627 2990 DID: 02 8203 1368 Website: http://www.stpeters.nsw.edu.au
On 8 August 2012 19:03, Robin Sheat <robin@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
Op 08-08-12 04:48, Seth Mayo schreef:
The librarian has asked me to investigate an issue where when she using Z39.50 to search for a biblio and then proceeds through the process of adding it and an item, she is left with a record that is forever in the reservoir.
I think the help for the cataloguing homepage could do with some updating to better explain what the options do, however the way I'd consider doing one-off entries is:
1. Go to "cataloguing" 2. Select "New record" and pick the framework This gives you the MARC entry fields 3. From there, use Z39.50 Search. This will populate the fields on the screen with the results of the search.
Then when you save, this should go straight into the catalogue.
To work with the reservoir, go to Tools -> Staged MARC record management.
-- Robin Sheat Catalyst IT Ltd. ✆ +64 4 803 2204 GPG: 5957 6D23 8B16 EFAB FEF8 7175 14D3 6485 A99C EB6D _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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Is that the cron job that executes: misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl-b -a -z ? The librarian also noticed today that she can borrow the books in question even though she can't search for them. Is this what you'd expect in that case as well? I'll run the SQL and check the record you mentioned tomorrow morning when I get back in... Thanks for your help everyone! Seth Mayo IT Technical Manager Email: smayo@stpeters.nsw.edu.au ------------------------------------------------------- St Peter's Anglican Primary School Howe Street Campbelltown NSW 2560 PH: 02 4627 2990 DID: 02 8203 1368 Website: http://www.stpeters.nsw.edu.au On 9 August 2012 09:15, Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
* Seth Mayo (smayo@stpeters.nsw.edu.au) wrote:
I've followed these directions and there was no difference in result or what I had already attempted.
It doesn't matter how I add a biblio, it looks like it never moves from reservoir to catalogue. It is very strange all around. Once you 'add' a biblio, you can enter in the item details and then you'll find that the biblio was added into the reservoir and the item details you typed have disappeared into cyberspace.
Any other ideas?
Sounds to me like your zebra reindex job is not running.
Things aren't moved from the reservoir, they are copied, so it will still be in the reservoir if it is the catalogue or not.
When you add one, check the url, and see what the biblionumber is.
Then in the database (or in reports)
SELECT * FROM biblioitems where biblionumber = that_number
If it's in the db, its in the catalogue, and its just your cron job to reindex is not running (or failing)
Chris
Seth Mayo IT Technical Manager Email: smayo@stpeters.nsw.edu.au ------------------------------------------------------- St Peter's Anglican Primary School Howe Street Campbelltown NSW 2560 PH: 02 4627 2990 DID: 02 8203 1368 Website: http://www.stpeters.nsw.edu.au
On 8 August 2012 19:03, Robin Sheat <robin@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
Op 08-08-12 04:48, Seth Mayo schreef:
The librarian has asked me to investigate an issue where when she
Z39.50 to search for a biblio and then proceeds through the process of adding it and an item, she is left with a record that is forever in
using the
reservoir.
I think the help for the cataloguing homepage could do with some updating to better explain what the options do, however the way I'd consider doing one-off entries is:
1. Go to "cataloguing" 2. Select "New record" and pick the framework This gives you the MARC entry fields 3. From there, use Z39.50 Search. This will populate the fields on the screen with the results of the search.
Then when you save, this should go straight into the catalogue.
To work with the reservoir, go to Tools -> Staged MARC record management.
-- Robin Sheat Catalyst IT Ltd. ✆ +64 4 803 2204 GPG: 5957 6D23 8B16 EFAB FEF8 7175 14D3 6485 A99C EB6D _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand
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