Re: VIRUS: [Koha] Re: Your password!
Just in case no one was paying attention, this was an example of the frethem.k virus. :( Please don't click on the attachment in the original document. For more information on the virus you can check Computer Associates web site at: <http://www3.ca.com/virusinfo/virus.asp?ID=12569>. ...brig At 10:16 AM 7/16/02 -0500, tpark@voicenet.com wrote:
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ATTENTION!
You can access very important information by this password
DO NOT SAVE password to disk use your mind
now press cancel
(Michele Petrovsky)
-- Brig C. McCoy 5109 Cherry St Head, Systems Office Kansas City, MO 64110 USA Linda Hall Library of Science, 816 926-8749 PHN, -8790 FAX Engineering, and Technology <http://www.lindahall.org> PGP Public Key: <http://www.theworld.com/~brigc/pgp/>
Hi all - just doing a weather check.... My inclination is to remove from the list anyone who sends a virus to it - wether they meant to or not, and then when they have sorted out their system they can join up again. Does anyone have any objection to that sort of policy? Cheers Rachel _____________________________________________________________ Rachel Hamilton-Williams Katipo Communications WEBMISTRESS ph 021 389 128 or +64 04 934 1285 mailto:rachel@katipo.co.nz PO Box 12487, Wellington http://www.katipo.co.nz New Zealand Koha Open Source Library System http://www.koha.org
On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Rachel Hamilton-Williams wrote:
Hi all - just doing a weather check....
My inclination is to remove from the list anyone who sends a virus to it - wether they meant to or not, and then when they have sorted out their system they can join up again.
Does anyone have any objection to that sort of policy?
While fair, I'm not sure that this is the most effective way to deal with virii. Perhaps just dropping attachments on the floor would serve? we'd still get the (empty) carrier of the virus, but no harm would be done. It *is* your mail server though, and I'll support you whichever way you decide to go. -pate
Cheers Rachel
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Rachel Hamilton-Williams Katipo Communications WEBMISTRESS ph 021 389 128 or +64 04 934 1285 mailto:rachel@katipo.co.nz PO Box 12487, Wellington http://www.katipo.co.nz New Zealand Koha Open Source Library System http://www.koha.org
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Why not just strip any attachemnts from items posted to the list. I cannot see the need for an attachment. I am happy for any solution. All should have uptodate AV Software. If you dont have any AV software and want something good and free go to and download the free verson not the trial version. AVG Anti-Virus - Free Download Page http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_downl.htm ... Get Your AVG For Free ! Here ... NO TECHNICAL SUPPORT IS AVAILABLE WITH AVG 6.0 Free Edition. AVG 6.0 Anti-Virus System - Trial Version. For ... www.grisoft.com/html/us_downl.htm - 11k - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from www.grisoft.com ] Regards Jeff Williams
On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 01:44, Jeff Williams wrote:
Why not just strip any attachemnts from items posted to the list. I cannot see the need for an attachment.
because attachments are useful for debugging and adding enhancements. Programmers that are not primary developers email diffs all the time. This is something that makes life harder for everyone who doesn't use Microsoft products to get there work done, just so people can continue using Microsoft Outlook.
I am happy for any solution.
All should have uptodate AV Software. If you dont have any AV software and want something good and free go to and download the free verson not the trial version.
This is almost entirely an issue for users of Outlook, Outlook Express, and Eudora Email clients.
AVG Anti-Virus - Free Download Page http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_downl.htm
... Get Your AVG For Free ! Here ... NO TECHNICAL SUPPORT IS AVAILABLE WITH AVG 6.0 Free Edition. AVG 6.0 Anti-Virus System - Trial Version. For ... www.grisoft.com/html/us_downl.htm - 11k - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from www.grisoft.com ]
Regards
Jeff Williams
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
additionally The Idea of unsubscribing someone because they send an email with a virus to the list sounds good. The problem is how do you know who sent the Email? If a worm hits the net that forges the senders email address using one of the addresses in the persons address book you will more likely to unsubscribe one of the developers than the person who is infected. Other solutions that I have heard on other lists: Ban Outlook and Outlook Express from the list. Ban Outlook and Outlook Express from posting attachments. Ban people who are not subscribed to the list from posting. Moderate the list. Drop the discussion ignore the virii and get on with your life. People who don't want there machine infected will use non MS clients. Those who don't care will use use MS clients. Discuss the topic ad nauseum every time a worm/virii hits. Scan the incoming list traffic for virii and then block those messages. Black hole any email addresses that sends an inappropriate message. (including ones such as this one.) Bounce all email that's not plain text. I'm sure that I've missed/forgotten some but you get the idea. If you want to keep a public list clean it requires someone making a special effort and actively maintaining it. Whatever Rachel decides is of course what goes. It's hear list server (as understand it.). I suppose it's a matter of what complaints Rachel wants to listen to. Micheas
On 17 Jul 2002, micheas wrote:
On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 01:44, Jeff Williams wrote:
Why not just strip any attachemnts from items posted to the list. I cannot see the need for an attachment.
because attachments are useful for debugging and adding enhancements.
Programmers that are not primary developers email diffs all the time.
Diffs should be sent in-line if they are not checked into CVS. If they are too large to be emailed in-line, then they should be put somewhere to download via the web.
This is something that makes life harder for everyone who doesn't use Microsoft products to get there work done, just so people can continue using Microsoft Outlook.
virii are not just a problem for microsoft outlook. (They are the most common source of issues on mailing lists though, I'd bet.) Of course, I'd be just as happy if everyone used pine and/or evolution ...
I am happy for any solution.
All should have uptodate AV Software. If you dont have any AV software and want something good and free go to and download the free verson not the trial version.
This is almost entirely an issue for users of Outlook, Outlook Express, and Eudora Email clients.
AVG Anti-Virus - Free Download Page http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_downl.htm
... Get Your AVG For Free ! Here ... NO TECHNICAL SUPPORT IS AVAILABLE WITH AVG 6.0 Free Edition. AVG 6.0 Anti-Virus System - Trial Version. For ... www.grisoft.com/html/us_downl.htm - 11k - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from www.grisoft.com ]
Regards
Jeff Williams
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
additionally The Idea of unsubscribing someone because they send an email with a virus to the list sounds good. The problem is how do you know who sent the Email? If a worm hits the net that forges the senders email address using one of the addresses in the persons address book you will more likely to unsubscribe one of the developers than the person who is infected.
Other solutions that I have heard on other lists: Ban Outlook and Outlook Express from the list.
Ban Outlook and Outlook Express from posting attachments.
Ban people who are not subscribed to the list from posting.
Moderate the list.
Drop the discussion ignore the virii and get on with your life. People who don't want there machine infected will use non MS clients. Those who don't care will use use MS clients.
Discuss the topic ad nauseum every time a worm/virii hits.
Scan the incoming list traffic for virii and then block those messages.
Black hole any email addresses that sends an inappropriate message. (including ones such as this one.)
Bounce all email that's not plain text.
I'm sure that I've missed/forgotten some but you get the idea. If you want to keep a public list clean it requires someone making a special effort and actively maintaining it.
Whatever Rachel decides is of course what goes. It's hear list server (as understand it.).
I suppose it's a matter of what complaints Rachel wants to listen to.
Micheas
Hi all, Thanks for all the input on what to do with virus's etc, here is what I can and will do for the Koha list - that's not the development one, but this general support one. 1/. Only members can post to the list 2/. Messages can't exceed 40K, so you can have attachments, but not big ones. 3/. I'll unsubscribe people who send virus's to the list but send them a note to let them know why and invite them to re sub. However I will certainly check headers etc to make sure that they *really* did send it to the list and it's not a spoof. Cheers Rachel _____________________________________________________________ Rachel Hamilton-Williams Katipo Communications WEBMISTRESS ph 021 389 128 or +64 04 934 1285 mailto:rachel@katipo.co.nz PO Box 12487, Wellington http://www.katipo.co.nz New Zealand Koha Open Source Library System http://www.koha.org
why bother? - the more viruses there are, the sooner M$ will beome extinct - and then there will be no more viruses ... kg On Wednesday 17 July 2002 02:22, Rachel Hamilton-Williams wrote:
Hi all - just doing a weather check....
My inclination is to remove from the list anyone who sends a virus to it - wether they meant to or not, and then when they have sorted out their system they can join up again.
Does anyone have any objection to that sort of policy?
Cheers Rachel
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