Hi everyone, I would like to put a plea out there that we do not hold Koha conferences every year. I would much prefer every 2nd or even 3rd year. This is because the KohaCon will always be held around the globe, which is what makes it so fantastic, but that also makes it quite expensive. Many of us are running on tight budgets and every 2nd or 3rd year is going to be much more sustainable in terms of particpation than annually. Thanks, Jo. -- Joann Ransom RLIANZA Head of Libraries, Horowhenua Library Trust. *Q: Why is this email three sentences or less? A: http://three.sentenc.es*
* Joann Ransom (jransom@library.org.nz) wrote:
Hi everyone,
I would like to put a plea out there that we do not hold Koha conferences every year. I would much prefer every 2nd or even 3rd year. This is because the KohaCon will always be held around the globe, which is what makes it so fantastic, but that also makes it quite expensive. Many of us are running on tight budgets and every 2nd or 3rd year is going to be much more sustainable in terms of particpation than annually.
I disagree quite strongly. Some people couldnt make this year, maybe they can make next year. Some of the people who made this year, cant make next year. The project is so vibrant and changes so much, 2 years is too long in my opinion. If we keep with the 6 month schedule that will be 4 major releases between conferences. People don't have to attend them all, if you can only attend ever 2nd or 3rd year, then so be it. But I think that that isnt a reason to only hold them ever 2 years. It will actually make it less likely people can attend one imho, and they will rotate around the world faster. Chris -- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand
Speaking as someone who sadly missed the most recent KohaCon - I don't want to have to wait another 2 years to be able to attend one. I agree that I think they should be more often, giving those of us that missed the conference for some reason, a chance to go the following year. Brendan -- Brendan A. Gallagher ByWater Solutions On Nov 18, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Chris Cormack wrote:
* Joann Ransom (jransom@library.org.nz) wrote:
Hi everyone,
I would like to put a plea out there that we do not hold Koha conferences every year. I would much prefer every 2nd or even 3rd year. This is because the KohaCon will always be held around the globe, which is what makes it so fantastic, but that also makes it quite expensive. Many of us are running on tight budgets and every 2nd or 3rd year is going to be much more sustainable in terms of particpation than annually.
I disagree quite strongly.
Some people couldnt make this year, maybe they can make next year. Some of the people who made this year, cant make next year. The project is so vibrant and changes so much, 2 years is too long in my opinion. If we keep with the 6 month schedule that will be 4 major releases between conferences.
People don't have to attend them all, if you can only attend ever 2nd or 3rd year, then so be it. But I think that that isnt a reason to only hold them ever 2 years. It will actually make it less likely people can attend one imho, and they will rotate around the world faster.
Chris
-- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
I appreciate Chris's arguments and concede he has a point - as usual :) On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Brendan A. Gallagher < info@bywatersolutions.com> wrote:
Speaking as someone who sadly missed the most recent KohaCon - I don't want to have to wait another 2 years to be able to attend one. I agree that I think they should be more often, giving those of us that missed the conference for some reason, a chance to go the following year.
Brendan
-- Brendan A. Gallagher ByWater Solutions
On Nov 18, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Chris Cormack wrote:
* Joann Ransom (jransom@library.org.nz) wrote:
Hi everyone,
I would like to put a plea out there that we do not hold Koha conferences every year. I would much prefer every 2nd or even 3rd year. This is because the KohaCon will always be held around the globe, which is what makes it so fantastic, but that also makes it quite expensive. Many of us are running on tight budgets and every 2nd or 3rd year is going to be much more sustainable in terms of particpation than annually.
I disagree quite strongly.
Some people couldnt make this year, maybe they can make next year. Some of the people who made this year, cant make next year. The project is so vibrant and changes so much, 2 years is too long in my opinion. If we keep with the 6 month schedule that will be 4 major releases between conferences.
People don't have to attend them all, if you can only attend ever 2nd or 3rd year, then so be it. But I think that that isnt a reason to only hold them ever 2 years. It will actually make it less likely people can attend one imho, and they will rotate around the world faster.
Chris
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Joann Ransom wrote:
I appreciate Chris's arguments and concede he has a point - as usual :)
How about web casting some of the seminars / events for those who cannot attend? cheers rickw -- _________________________________ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services aibohphobia - the fear of palindromes
Reply inline: On Thu, November 18, 2010 23:55, Rick Welykochy wrote: [...]
How about web casting some of the seminars / events for those who cannot attend?
Live webcasting is especially prone to technical failure but would be nice if it could be reasonably achieved. Recording at least the audio and any presentation materials used for sessions including developer sessions is important for those who cannot attend, may have conflicts if they do attend, and for every attendee who may fail to take a note about an important bit of information. [...] Thomas Dukleth Agogme 109 E 9th Street, 3D New York, NY 10003 USA http://www.agogme.com +1 212-674-3783
* Thomas Dukleth (kohalist@agogme.com) wrote:
Reply inline:
On Thu, November 18, 2010 23:55, Rick Welykochy wrote:
[...]
How about web casting some of the seminars / events for those who cannot attend?
Live webcasting is especially prone to technical failure but would be nice if it could be reasonably achieved.
Recording at least the audio and any presentation materials used for sessions including developer sessions is important for those who cannot attend, may have conflicts if they do attend, and for every attendee who may fail to take a note about an important bit of information.
Video of all the sessions at Kohacon10 was taken and is being slowly uploaded to the web. As was done in Kohacon09 also. Being able to do real time streaming was not something we could afford to do. It may be feasible next conference. Chris -- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand
Do let us all know when the conference videos are up, and where to find them. I don't get any travel funding for conferences. . . so I doubt I'll ever get to attend unless I'm within cycling distance ;-) Elaine
On 23 November 2010 17:16, Elaine Bradtke <eb@efdss.org> wrote:
Do let us all know when the conference videos are up, and where to find them. I don't get any travel funding for conferences. . . so I doubt I'll ever get to attend unless I'm within cycling distance ;-)
A lot of them are already up and can be found here: http://blip.tv/search?q=kohacon10 Thanks to "The Curious and Wondering Eye" aka Kristina Hoeppner for putting *a lot* of effort into getting them out there! Regards, Magnus Enger libriotech.no
Salvete!
Do let us all know when the conference videos are up, and where to find them. I don't get any travel funding for conferences. . . so I doubt I'll ever get to attend unless I'm within cycling distance ;-)
On of the coolest things that we do as a community is ensure that content gets out there from Conference. It ought to be a model for other Library Conferences. Sorry I was lazy and stopped circling for videos! I am only missing George Oates' presentation now, which was brilliant. It is on slideshare, but if someone has footage, please do link it. If you prefer a schedule format, it's up on the wiki here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon2010 Cheers, Brooke
Videos from the conference are available at http://anitsirk.blip.tv/posts?view=archive&nsfw=dc, thanks to Kristina Hoeppner (sorry Kristina if I got your last name wrong...) for posting them. Liz Rea On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Elaine Bradtke wrote:
Do let us all know when the conference videos are up, and where to find them. I don't get any travel funding for conferences. . . so I doubt I'll ever get to attend unless I'm within cycling distance ;-) Elaine _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
++1 Gary L. Harris New Mexico State Library, USA. ________________________________ From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz on behalf of Chris Cormack Sent: Thu 11/18/2010 4:15 PM To: Joann Ransom Cc: koha Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha Conference timing * Joann Ransom (jransom@library.org.nz) wrote:
Hi everyone,
I would like to put a plea out there that we do not hold Koha conferences every year. I would much prefer every 2nd or even 3rd year. This is because the KohaCon will always be held around the globe, which is what makes it so fantastic, but that also makes it quite expensive. Many of us are running on tight budgets and every 2nd or 3rd year is going to be much more sustainable in terms of particpation than annually.
I disagree quite strongly. Some people couldnt make this year, maybe they can make next year. Some of the people who made this year, cant make next year. The project is so vibrant and changes so much, 2 years is too long in my opinion. If we keep with the 6 month schedule that will be 4 major releases between conferences. People don't have to attend them all, if you can only attend ever 2nd or 3rd year, then so be it. But I think that that isnt a reason to only hold them ever 2 years. It will actually make it less likely people can attend one imho, and they will rotate around the world faster. Chris -- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. -- This email has been scanned by the Sybari - Antigen Email System.
++1 for what Gary? annual or alternate years? 2010/11/19 Harris, Gary, DCA <Gary.Harris@state.nm.us>
++1
Gary L. Harris New Mexico State Library, USA.
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*Subject:* Re: [Koha] Koha Conference timing
* Joann Ransom (jransom@library.org.nz) wrote:
Hi everyone,
I would like to put a plea out there that we do not hold Koha conferences every year. I would much prefer every 2nd or even 3rd year. This is because the KohaCon will always be held around the globe, which is what makes it so fantastic, but that also makes it quite expensive. Many of us are running on tight budgets and every 2nd or 3rd year is going to be much more sustainable in terms of particpation than annually.
I disagree quite strongly.
Some people couldnt make this year, maybe they can make next year. Some of the people who made this year, cant make next year. The project is so vibrant and changes so much, 2 years is too long in my opinion. If we keep with the 6 month schedule that will be 4 major releases between conferences.
People don't have to attend them all, if you can only attend ever 2nd or 3rd year, then so be it. But I think that that isnt a reason to only hold them ever 2 years. It will actually make it less likely people can attend one imho, and they will rotate around the world faster.
Chris
-- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand
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Sorry. I was a little under the weather yesterday. ++1 for Annual. Gary ________________________________ From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Joann Ransom Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:57 PM To: koha Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha Conference timing ++1 for what Gary? annual or alternate years? 2010/11/19 Harris, Gary, DCA <Gary.Harris@state.nm.us> ++1 Gary L. Harris New Mexico State Library, USA. ________________________________ From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz on behalf of Chris Cormack Sent: Thu 11/18/2010 4:15 PM To: Joann Ransom Cc: koha Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha Conference timing * Joann Ransom (jransom@library.org.nz) wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I would like to put a plea out there that we do not hold Koha conferences > every year. I would much prefer every 2nd or even 3rd year. This is > because the KohaCon will always be held around the globe, which is what > makes it so fantastic, but that also makes it quite expensive. Many of us > are running on tight budgets and every 2nd or 3rd year is going to be much > more sustainable in terms of particpation than annually. > I disagree quite strongly. Some people couldnt make this year, maybe they can make next year. Some of the people who made this year, cant make next year. The project is so vibrant and changes so much, 2 years is too long in my opinion. If we keep with the 6 month schedule that will be 4 major releases between conferences. People don't have to attend them all, if you can only attend ever 2nd or 3rd year, then so be it. But I think that that isnt a reason to only hold them ever 2 years. It will actually make it less likely people can attend one imho, and they will rotate around the world faster. Chris -- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. -- This email has been scanned by the Sybari - Antigen Email System. _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha -- Joann Ransom RLIANZA Head of Libraries, Horowhenua Library Trust. Q: Why is this email three sentences or less? A: http://three.sentenc.es Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. -- This email has been scanned by the Sybari - Antigen Email System.
++1 for Annual. Prehaps when the 20th anniversary of Koha comes up, and prehaps KohaCon will come to NZ again.... prehaps i'd be able to make it. Gotta get myself more trained up, and get more hours. ________________________________ From: "Harris, Gary, DCA" <Gary.Harris@state.nm.us> To: Joann Ransom <jransom@library.org.nz>; koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Sent: Sat, 20 November, 2010 5:52:34 AM Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha Conference timing Sorry. I was a little under the weather yesterday. ++1 for Annual. Gary ________________________________ From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Joann Ransom Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:57 PM To: koha Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha Conference timing ++1 for what Gary? annual or alternate years? 2010/11/19 Harris, Gary, DCA <Gary.Harris@state.nm.us> ++1
Gary L. Harris New Mexico State Library, USA.
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Sent: Thu 11/18/2010 4:15 PM To: Joann Ransom Cc: koha
Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha Conference timing
* Joann Ransom (jransom@library.org.nz) wrote:
Hi everyone,
I would like to put a plea out there that we do not hold Koha conferences every year. I would much prefer every 2nd or even 3rd year. This is because the KohaCon will always be held around the globe, which is what makes it so fantastic, but that also makes it quite expensive. Many of us are running on tight budgets and every 2nd or 3rd year is going to be much more sustainable in terms of particpation than annually.
I disagree quite strongly.
Some people couldnt make this year, maybe they can make next year. Some of the people who made this year, cant make next year. The project is so vibrant and changes so much, 2 years is too long in my opinion. If we keep with the 6 month schedule that will be 4 major releases between conferences.
People don't have to attend them all, if you can only attend ever 2nd or 3rd year, then so be it. But I think that that isnt a reason to only hold them ever 2 years. It will actually make it less likely people can attend one imho, and they will rotate around the world faster.
Chris
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I sympathise with Jo but most certainly agree that **one yearly*** international Koha conference is needed for the Koha project and fairness to the global Koha community. Keeping the registration free might not always be possible but increases the chances to rotate who can attend. One of our clients has family in Italy and was delighted to hear KohaCon11 might be hosted in the UK...She is planning her dual purpose trip already :-) Cheers, Irma CALYX From down-under Sydney Australia On 19/11/2010 10:15 AM, Chris Cormack wrote:
* Joann Ransom (jransom@library.org.nz) wrote:
Hi everyone,
I would like to put a plea out there that we do not hold Koha conferences every year. I would much prefer every 2nd or even 3rd year. This is because the KohaCon will always be held around the globe, which is what makes it so fantastic, but that also makes it quite expensive. Many of us are running on tight budgets and every 2nd or 3rd year is going to be much more sustainable in terms of particpation than annually.
I disagree quite strongly.
Some people couldnt make this year, maybe they can make next year. Some of the people who made this year, cant make next year. The project is so vibrant and changes so much, 2 years is too long in my opinion. If we keep with the 6 month schedule that will be 4 major releases between conferences.
People don't have to attend them all, if you can only attend ever 2nd or 3rd year, then so be it. But I think that that isnt a reason to only hold them ever 2 years. It will actually make it less likely people can attend one imho, and they will rotate around the world faster.
Chris
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Salvete! Well gorsh, if only there was somewhere to chime in about conference timing. *cough* http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Conference_Bidding *cough* Brooke
2010/11/19 M. Brooke Helman <abesottedphoenix@yahoo.com>:
Salvete! Well gorsh, if only there was somewhere to chime in about conference timing. *cough* http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Conference_Bidding
People already have ;) See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Talk:Koha_Conference_Bidding Chris
M. Brooke Helman wrote:
Salvete!
Well gorsh, if only there was somewhere to chime in about conference timing. *cough*
"Rule the First: New Zealand ought hold right of first refusal for Conferences falling during Anniversary years (10th, 15th, 25th, et cetera). " Aren't those the quinquennial anniversaries? cheers rickw (ducking for cover) -- _________________________________ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services aibohphobia - the fear of palindromes
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From: Olugbenga Adara <gbengaadara@yahoo.com> To: Irma Birchall <irmalibraries@gmail.com> Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 10:59:20 AM Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha Conference timing
From: Irma Birchall <irmalibraries@gmail.com> To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 1:57:40 AM Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha Conference timing
I sympathise with Jo but most certainly agree that **one yearly*** international Koha conference is needed for the Koha project and fairness
to
the global Koha community. Keeping the registration free might not always be possible but increases
the
chances to rotate who can attend. One of our clients has family in Italy and was delighted to hear
KohaCon11
might be hosted in the UK...She is planning her dual purpose trip already
:-)
As Chris argued, I am in support of the yearly Kohacon. And it will be so wonderful if UK can host this. It would also be nice if the host and dates could
be fixed as early as possible.
Olugbenga Adara Mobile: 234-803-3220288
Le 19/11/2010 00:15, Chris Cormack a écrit :
I disagree quite strongly.
Some people couldnt make this year, maybe they can make next year. Some of the people who made this year, cant make next year. The project is so vibrant and changes so much, 2 years is too long in my opinion. If we keep with the 6 month schedule that will be 4 major releases between conferences.
People don't have to attend them all, if you can only attend ever 2nd or 3rd year, then so be it. But I think that that isnt a reason to only hold them ever 2 years. It will actually make it less likely people can attend one imho, and they will rotate around the world faster. +1 : a conference every year is a must-do now : the project is wide enough now to have ppl attending every year, even if it's not everybody !
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