Hello everyone! I need to pick the collective brain about a question I received from one of our libraries. They are a toy/game library. For games and books, they circulate items normally. However, they have some toys in many copies and they don't need to or want to have a specific barcode for each copy of a particular toy. They gave me the example of dinosaur figurines. They have 60+ dinosaur figurines, but they don't need to know that *this exact* dinosaur figurine went home with this patron. They just need to know that *a* dinosaur figurine went home with this patron. They want to avoid having barcodes for each dinosaur. Right now, they manage this in a spreadsheet, but would like to manage it in Koha with the rest of their inventory. Do any of you have a similar situation? If so how do you manage those items? Thank you so much! Caroline Cyr-La-Rose, M.L.I.S. Librarian | Product Manager 1-833-INLIBRO (465-4276), ext. 221 caroline.cyr-la-rose@inlibro.com https://www.inLibro.com
HI Caroline, I have two different situations that are related. Magazines: I didn't care which magazine went home with a student just that a magazine went home with them. I bought large clear envelopes that held the magazine that students wanted. The envelope had the barcode on it and was used to check out the magazine. Koha held records for each envelope: Magazine 1, Magazine 2, Magazine 3, etc. Equipment and weirdly shaped items: I had a sheet with barcodes for a variety of 'things' that were checked out but I didn't want to put barcodes on them. I just pulled out the sheet and scanned the corresponding barcode to the item being checked out. Hope this helps. Lauren On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 3:49 PM Caroline Cyr La Rose < caroline.cyr-la-rose@inlibro.com> wrote:
Hello everyone!
I need to pick the collective brain about a question I received from one of our libraries.
They are a toy/game library. For games and books, they circulate items normally. However, they have some toys in many copies and they don't need to or want to have a specific barcode for each copy of a particular toy. They gave me the example of dinosaur figurines. They have 60+ dinosaur figurines, but they don't need to know that *this exact* dinosaur figurine went home with this patron. They just need to know that *a* dinosaur figurine went home with this patron. They want to avoid having barcodes for each dinosaur.
Right now, they manage this in a spreadsheet, but would like to manage it in Koha with the rest of their inventory.
Do any of you have a similar situation? If so how do you manage those items?
Thank you so much!
Caroline Cyr-La-Rose, M.L.I.S. Librarian | Product Manager
1-833-INLIBRO (465-4276), ext. 221 caroline.cyr-la-rose@inlibro.com https://www.inLibro.com
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Thank you, Lauren! I had thought of the envelopes too (like the hanging clear plastic ones we had "back in the day" for books with audio cassettes). I think that will be the most obvious/easy option. I'm guessing your equipment and weirdly shaped items each have their own specific barcode? They told me specifically that they wanted a sheet with one barcode for "dinosaurs," and one barcode for "sea creatures," and whatnot. But I don't see how that could work with Koha... You can't check out the same barcode to multiple patrons at the same time, and when you check in, how does Koha know from which patron file to remove the item? Anyway! Thanks for your ideas! I'll let them know about the clear plastic envelopes as an option. Caroline On 2023-03-15 15:58, Lauren Denny wrote:
HI Caroline,
I have two different situations that are related. Magazines: I didn't care which magazine went home with a student just that a magazine went home with them. I bought large clear envelopes that held the magazine that students wanted. The envelope had the barcode on it and was used to check out the magazine. Koha held records for each envelope: Magazine 1, Magazine 2, Magazine 3, etc. Equipment and weirdly shaped items: I had a sheet with barcodes for a variety of 'things' that were checked out but I didn't want to put barcodes on them. I just pulled out the sheet and scanned the corresponding barcode to the item being checked out.
Hope this helps. Lauren
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 3:49 PM Caroline Cyr La Rose <caroline.cyr-la-rose@inlibro.com> wrote:
Hello everyone!
I need to pick the collective brain about a question I received from one of our libraries.
They are a toy/game library. For games and books, they circulate items normally. However, they have some toys in many copies and they don't need to or want to have a specific barcode for each copy of a particular toy. They gave me the example of dinosaur figurines. They have 60+ dinosaur figurines, but they don't need to know that *this exact* dinosaur figurine went home with this patron. They just need to know that *a* dinosaur figurine went home with this patron. They want to avoid having barcodes for each dinosaur.
Right now, they manage this in a spreadsheet, but would like to manage it in Koha with the rest of their inventory.
Do any of you have a similar situation? If so how do you manage those items?
Thank you so much!
Caroline Cyr-La-Rose, M.L.I.S. Librarian | Product Manager
1-833-INLIBRO (465-4276), ext. 221 caroline.cyr-la-rose@inlibro.com https://www.inLibro.com <https://www.inLibro.com>
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Hi Caroline, How about creating a bib record for "Dinosaur" and having each dinosaur be a separate item? You'd have to barcode every dinosaur, but it's easier to add an item than a bib record. This one won't work even worse than the other one: one library I know of used to check out mass-market paperbacks by putting a date due card in the pocket but not actually keeping a record of what was checked out to whom. It worked for them. Fred King, MSLS, AHIP Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center fred.king@medstar.net 202-877-6670 ORCID 0000-0001-5266-0279 MedStar Authors Catalog: http://medstarauthors.org You know it's cold outside when you go outside and it's cold. --NPS Twitter -----Original Message----- From: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> On Behalf Of Caroline Cyr La Rose Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2023 3:49 PM To: Koha mailing list <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Koha] Circulating non-specific items **ATTENTION: This email originated from outside the MedStar Health network. ** DO NOT CLICK links or attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hello everyone! I need to pick the collective brain about a question I received from one of our libraries. They are a toy/game library. For games and books, they circulate items normally. However, they have some toys in many copies and they don't need to or want to have a specific barcode for each copy of a particular toy. They gave me the example of dinosaur figurines. They have 60+ dinosaur figurines, but they don't need to know that *this exact* dinosaur figurine went home with this patron. They just need to know that *a* dinosaur figurine went home with this patron. They want to avoid having barcodes for each dinosaur. Right now, they manage this in a spreadsheet, but would like to manage it in Koha with the rest of their inventory. Do any of you have a similar situation? If so how do you manage those items? Thank you so much! Caroline Cyr-La-Rose, M.L.I.S. Librarian | Product Manager 1-833-INLIBRO (465-4276), ext. 221 caroline.cyr-la-rose@inlibro.com https://www.inLibro.com _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Unsubscribe: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MedStar Health is a not-for-profit, integrated healthcare delivery system, the largest in Maryland and the Washington, D.C., region. Nationally recognized for clinical quality in heart, orthopedics, cancer and GI. IMPORTANT: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain information that is private, confidential, or protected by attorney-client or other privilege. If you received this e-mail in error, please delete it from your system without copying it and notify sender by reply e-mail, so that our records can be corrected... Thank you. Help conserve valuable resources - only print this email if necessary.
Hi Fred, That is what I had proposed at first (you can even add items in batch with the "Add multiple items" button), but they didn't like the idea of each dinosaur having its own barcode. However, I don't see how you can circulate in Koha without each item having its own barcode. I think they will have to bite the bullet and barcode each dinosaur if they want to use Koha to circulate. Otherwise, I'm sure they can continue with the spreadsheet method, since it seems to work for them right now. :/ Thanks! Caroline On 2023-03-15 16:01, King, Fred wrote:
Hi Caroline,
How about creating a bib record for "Dinosaur" and having each dinosaur be a separate item? You'd have to barcode every dinosaur, but it's easier to add an item than a bib record.
This one won't work even worse than the other one: one library I know of used to check out mass-market paperbacks by putting a date due card in the pocket but not actually keeping a record of what was checked out to whom. It worked for them.
Fred King, MSLS, AHIP Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center fred.king@medstar.net 202-877-6670 ORCID 0000-0001-5266-0279 MedStar Authors Catalog:http://medstarauthors.org
You know it's cold outside when you go outside and it's cold. --NPS Twitter
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Hello everyone!
I need to pick the collective brain about a question I received from one of our libraries.
They are a toy/game library. For games and books, they circulate items normally. However, they have some toys in many copies and they don't need to or want to have a specific barcode for each copy of a particular toy. They gave me the example of dinosaur figurines. They have 60+ dinosaur figurines, but they don't need to know that *this exact* dinosaur figurine went home with this patron. They just need to know that *a* dinosaur figurine went home with this patron. They want to avoid having barcodes for each dinosaur.
Right now, they manage this in a spreadsheet, but would like to manage it in Koha with the rest of their inventory.
Do any of you have a similar situation? If so how do you manage those items?
Thank you so much!
Caroline Cyr-La-Rose, M.L.I.S. Librarian | Product Manager
1-833-INLIBRO (465-4276), ext. 221 caroline.cyr-la-rose@inlibro.com https://www.inLibro.com
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If you go to some hardware stores and want to buy things like loose screws, or certain outdoor items (mulch), the cashier will look in a binder and scan the barcode in the binder. You could do something similar here. *Joel Coehoorn* Director of Information Technology *York University* Office: 402-363-5603 | jcoehoorn@york.edu | york.edu On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 3:31 PM Caroline Cyr La Rose < caroline.cyr-la-rose@inlibro.com> wrote:
Hi Fred,
That is what I had proposed at first (you can even add items in batch with the "Add multiple items" button), but they didn't like the idea of each dinosaur having its own barcode. However, I don't see how you can circulate in Koha without each item having its own barcode. I think they will have to bite the bullet and barcode each dinosaur if they want to use Koha to circulate. Otherwise, I'm sure they can continue with the spreadsheet method, since it seems to work for them right now. :/
Thanks!
Caroline
Hi Caroline,
How about creating a bib record for "Dinosaur" and having each dinosaur be a separate item? You'd have to barcode every dinosaur, but it's easier to add an item than a bib record.
This one won't work even worse than the other one: one library I know of used to check out mass-market paperbacks by putting a date due card in the
On 2023-03-15 16:01, King, Fred wrote: pocket but not actually keeping a record of what was checked out to whom. It worked for them.
Fred King, MSLS, AHIP Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center fred.king@medstar.net 202-877-6670 ORCID 0000-0001-5266-0279 MedStar Authors Catalog:http://medstarauthors.org
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Hello everyone!
I need to pick the collective brain about a question I received from one of our libraries.
They are a toy/game library. For games and books, they circulate items normally. However, they have some toys in many copies and they don't need to or want to have a specific barcode for each copy of a particular toy. They gave me the example of dinosaur figurines. They have 60+ dinosaur figurines, but they don't need to know that *this exact* dinosaur figurine went home with this patron. They just need to know that *a* dinosaur figurine went home with this patron. They want to avoid having barcodes for each dinosaur.
Right now, they manage this in a spreadsheet, but would like to manage it in Koha with the rest of their inventory.
Do any of you have a similar situation? If so how do you manage those items?
Thank you so much!
Caroline Cyr-La-Rose, M.L.I.S. Librarian | Product Manager
1-833-INLIBRO (465-4276), ext. 221 caroline.cyr-la-rose@inlibro.com https://www.inLibro.com
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I really want itemBarcodeFallbackSearch <https://koha-community.org/manual//22.11/en/html/circulationpreferences.html#itembarcodefallbacksearch> to work for this: You make just one bib and add an item per dino, giving each item a barcode "dino 1," "dino 2," and so on. At checkout, the staff member enters "dino" for the barcode, gets presented with a list of dino items, and selects the first available one. Ideally, you'd replace "dino" with a word that's easily memorable for staff but doesn't appear in any other records. Maybe just "dinotoy"? But this scheme runs into two issues that might really need to be addressed as bugs. First, the search results for the fallback search don't filter out items that are currently checked out. Second, it doesn't even show you which are checked out and which are available. So really staff get an unusable list of all the dino toys. But either of those things might be correctable via jQuery? Andrew Fuerste-Henry Assistant Library Director Dubuque County Library District www.dubcolib.org | 563-582-0008 he|they<https://www.mypronouns.org/>
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