That's the beauty of Koha Lori, you could be that person. Chris Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com> wrote:
This is related to the requirement that the system have a "default default" set, otherwise the other defaults won't work...right? Brendan promises me someone will help work on the screen and/or documentation related to this setting. This is now the 5th person I've heard baffled by it in the last couple of days!
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> wrote:
I'm unfortunately, not quite understanding where you added the "default" rules at ?
Administration -> Circulation and fines rules
-- Owen
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Yes! And my role is to help with priorities and funding....but not the hands-on tweaking. At least, not so far! On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz>wrote:
That's the beauty of Koha Lori, you could be that person.
Chris
Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com> wrote:
This is related to the requirement that the system have a "default default" set, otherwise the other defaults won't work...right? Brendan promises me someone will help work on the screen and/or documentation related to this setting. This is now the 5th person I've heard baffled by it in the last couple of days!
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> wrote:
I'm unfortunately, not quite understanding where you added the "default" rules at ?
Administration -> Circulation and fines rules
-- Owen
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2010/8/19 Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com>:
Yes! And my role is to help with priorities and funding....but not the hands-on tweaking. At least, not so far!
Maybe now is the time to expand :) Everyone in Koha wears at least 10 different hats :) Seriously though, offering solutions is far more expedient. Chris
Hi, I got problem on item with title contain 'C++' ... the item can be borrow out (check-out) but there is error when this kind title on returning (check-in), anyone experience this ? esmael ----- Original Message ---- From: Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz> To: Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com> Cc: koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 8:48:02 AM Subject: Re: [Koha] after migration issues 2010/8/19 Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com>:
Yes! And my role is to help with priorities and funding....but not the hands-on tweaking. At least, not so far!
Maybe now is the time to expand :) Everyone in Koha wears at least 10 different hats :) Seriously though, offering solutions is far more expedient. Chris _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
I got problem on item with title contain 'C++' ... the item can be borrow out (check-out) but there is error when this kind title on returning (check-in), anyone experience this ?
Not us. We have many titles on C++ and we've never run into any errors. What version of Koha are you using, and what is the error? Keep in mind you may have to check the error log if Koha isn't outputting the actual error to the screen. -- Owen -- Web Developer Athens County Public Libraries http://www.myacpl.org
This is in the manual already - http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x3293#AEN3534 it's labeled as IMPORTANT for a reason :) Nicole On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
That's the beauty of Koha Lori, you could be that person.
Chris
Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com> wrote:
This is related to the requirement that the system have a "default default" set, otherwise the other defaults won't work...right? Brendan promises me someone will help work on the screen and/or documentation related to this setting. This is now the 5th person I've heard baffled by it in the last couple of days!
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> wrote:
I'm unfortunately, not quite understanding where you added the "default" rules at ?
Administration -> Circulation and fines rules
-- Owen
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You mean this? Can't tell if it is labelled IMPORTANT ....(chrome?) [image: Important] At the very least you will need to set an absolute default circulation rule. This rule should be set for the default itemtype, default branchcode and default patron category. That will catch anyone who doesn't match a specific rule. Patrons who do not match a specific rule will get blocked from placing holds, since there was no baseline number of holds to utilize. Assuming one uses the documentation (impediment #1), maybe the confusion arises with the use of the expression "absolute default circulation rule." That certainly confuses me. Also, my understanding is that you have to have the so-called absolute default circulation rule (aka default default) set or no one can place holds even if the other rules are set. Anyway, clear to me that this is a source of confusion that would benefit from another round of wordsmithing or tightening up (on screen and in documentation). I'd be happy to help but I still don't understand really how it works. Lori On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
This is in the manual already - http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x3293#AEN3534 it's labeled as IMPORTANT for a reason :)
Nicole
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
That's the beauty of Koha Lori, you could be that person.
Chris
Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com> wrote:
This is related to the requirement that the system have a "default default" set, otherwise the other defaults won't work...right? Brendan promises me someone will help work on the screen and/or documentation related to this setting. This is now the 5th person I've heard baffled by it in the last couple of days!
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> wrote:
I'm unfortunately, not quite understanding where you added the "default" rules at ?
Administration -> Circulation and fines rules
-- Owen
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Okay, this is so so so strange - I was looking at this with Liz yesterday. I see the word Important where you see a broken image. Now that I'm replying I see a broken image :) Anyway, that problem aside - I can reword that to try and make it clearer in the manual - another change that I also think will be ignored - is to put it in the summary at the top of that page. Nicole On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com>wrote:
You mean this? Can't tell if it is labelled IMPORTANT ....(chrome?)
[image: Important]
At the very least you will need to set an absolute default circulation rule. This rule should be set for the default itemtype, default branchcode and default patron category. That will catch anyone who doesn't match a specific rule. Patrons who do not match a specific rule will get blocked from placing holds, since there was no baseline number of holds to utilize.
Assuming one uses the documentation (impediment #1), maybe the confusion arises with the use of the expression "absolute default circulation rule." That certainly confuses me.
Also, my understanding is that you have to have the so-called absolute default circulation rule (aka default default) set or no one can place holds even if the other rules are set.
Anyway, clear to me that this is a source of confusion that would benefit from another round of wordsmithing or tightening up (on screen and in documentation). I'd be happy to help but I still don't understand really how it works.
Lori
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
This is in the manual already - http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x3293#AEN3534 it's labeled as IMPORTANT for a reason :)
Nicole
That's the beauty of Koha Lori, you could be that person.
Chris
Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com> wrote:
This is related to the requirement that the system have a "default default" set, otherwise the other defaults won't work...right? Brendan promises me someone will help work on the screen and/or documentation related to
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz> wrote: this
setting. This is now the 5th person I've heard baffled by it in the last couple of days!
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> wrote:
I'm unfortunately, not quite understanding where you added the "default" rules at ?
Administration -> Circulation and fines rules
-- Owen
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That sounds good. I know I'm guilty of going with summary versions of things whenever possible and only going back to the super detail level if necessary. Lori On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, this is so so so strange - I was looking at this with Liz yesterday. I see the word Important where you see a broken image. Now that I'm replying I see a broken image :)
Anyway, that problem aside - I can reword that to try and make it clearer in the manual - another change that I also think will be ignored - is to put it in the summary at the top of that page.
Nicole
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com>wrote:
You mean this? Can't tell if it is labelled IMPORTANT ....(chrome?)
[image: Important]
At the very least you will need to set an absolute default circulation rule. This rule should be set for the default itemtype, default branchcode and default patron category. That will catch anyone who doesn't match a specific rule. Patrons who do not match a specific rule will get blocked from placing holds, since there was no baseline number of holds to utilize.
Assuming one uses the documentation (impediment #1), maybe the confusion arises with the use of the expression "absolute default circulation rule." That certainly confuses me.
Also, my understanding is that you have to have the so-called absolute default circulation rule (aka default default) set or no one can place holds even if the other rules are set.
Anyway, clear to me that this is a source of confusion that would benefit from another round of wordsmithing or tightening up (on screen and in documentation). I'd be happy to help but I still don't understand really how it works.
Lori
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
This is in the manual already - http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x3293#AEN3534 it's labeled as IMPORTANT for a reason :)
Nicole
That's the beauty of Koha Lori, you could be that person.
Chris
Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com> wrote:
This is related to the requirement that the system have a "default default" set, otherwise the other defaults won't work...right? Brendan promises me someone will help work on the screen and/or documentation related to
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz> wrote: this
setting. This is now the 5th person I've heard baffled by it in the last couple of days!
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> wrote:
> I'm unfortunately, not quite understanding where you added the "default" rules at ?
Administration -> Circulation and fines rules
-- Owen
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I have added it to the FAQ: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/circulation/#25 and the manual (which won't be on the web until Sunday) http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commit;h=baa1ff503e65... Nicole On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com>wrote:
That sounds good. I know I'm guilty of going with summary versions of things whenever possible and only going back to the super detail level if necessary.
Lori
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, this is so so so strange - I was looking at this with Liz yesterday. I see the word Important where you see a broken image. Now that I'm replying I see a broken image :)
Anyway, that problem aside - I can reword that to try and make it clearer in the manual - another change that I also think will be ignored - is to put it in the summary at the top of that page.
Nicole
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com>wrote:
You mean this? Can't tell if it is labelled IMPORTANT ....(chrome?)
[image: Important]
At the very least you will need to set an absolute default circulation rule. This rule should be set for the default itemtype, default branchcode and default patron category. That will catch anyone who doesn't match a specific rule. Patrons who do not match a specific rule will get blocked from placing holds, since there was no baseline number of holds to utilize.
Assuming one uses the documentation (impediment #1), maybe the confusion arises with the use of the expression "absolute default circulation rule." That certainly confuses me.
Also, my understanding is that you have to have the so-called absolute default circulation rule (aka default default) set or no one can place holds even if the other rules are set.
Anyway, clear to me that this is a source of confusion that would benefit from another round of wordsmithing or tightening up (on screen and in documentation). I'd be happy to help but I still don't understand really how it works.
Lori
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com>wrote:
This is in the manual already - http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x3293#AEN3534 it's labeled as IMPORTANT for a reason :)
Nicole
That's the beauty of Koha Lori, you could be that person.
Chris
Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com> wrote:
This is related to the requirement that the system have a "default default" set, otherwise the other defaults won't work...right? Brendan
someone will help work on the screen and/or documentation related to
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz> wrote: promises me this
setting. This is now the 5th person I've heard baffled by it in the last couple of days!
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> wrote:
> > I'm unfortunately, not quite understanding where you added the "default" > rules at ? > > Administration -> Circulation and fines rules > > -- Owen > > -- > Web Developer > Athens County Public Libraries > http://www.myacpl.org > _______________________________________________ > Koha mailing list > Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz > http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >
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That's much easier for me to grok. Thanks Nicole! On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
I have added it to the FAQ:
http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/circulation/#25
and the manual (which won't be on the web until Sunday)
http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commit;h=baa1ff503e65...
Nicole
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com>wrote:
That sounds good. I know I'm guilty of going with summary versions of things whenever possible and only going back to the super detail level if necessary.
Lori
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, this is so so so strange - I was looking at this with Liz yesterday. I see the word Important where you see a broken image. Now that I'm replying I see a broken image :)
Anyway, that problem aside - I can reword that to try and make it clearer in the manual - another change that I also think will be ignored - is to put it in the summary at the top of that page.
Nicole
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com>wrote:
You mean this? Can't tell if it is labelled IMPORTANT ....(chrome?)
[image: Important]
At the very least you will need to set an absolute default circulation rule. This rule should be set for the default itemtype, default branchcode and default patron category. That will catch anyone who doesn't match a specific rule. Patrons who do not match a specific rule will get blocked from placing holds, since there was no baseline number of holds to utilize.
Assuming one uses the documentation (impediment #1), maybe the confusion arises with the use of the expression "absolute default circulation rule." That certainly confuses me.
Also, my understanding is that you have to have the so-called absolute default circulation rule (aka default default) set or no one can place holds even if the other rules are set.
Anyway, clear to me that this is a source of confusion that would benefit from another round of wordsmithing or tightening up (on screen and in documentation). I'd be happy to help but I still don't understand really how it works.
Lori
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com>wrote:
This is in the manual already - http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x3293#AEN3534 it's labeled as IMPORTANT for a reason :)
Nicole
That's the beauty of Koha Lori, you could be that person.
Chris
Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com> wrote:
>This is related to the requirement that the system have a "default default" >set, otherwise the other defaults won't work...right? Brendan
>someone will help work on the screen and/or documentation related to
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz> wrote: promises me this
>setting. This is now the 5th person I've heard baffled by it in the last >couple of days! > >On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> wrote: > >> > I'm unfortunately, not quite understanding where you added the "default" >> rules at ? >> >> Administration -> Circulation and fines rules >> >> -- Owen >> >> -- >> Web Developer >> Athens County Public Libraries >> http://www.myacpl.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Koha mailing list >> Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz >> http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >> > >_______________________________________________ >Koha mailing list >Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz >http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
I was doing some work on the manual today that necessitated pulling it early, so these changes are now in the manual. Liz Rea NEKLS On Aug 19, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Nicole Engard wrote:
I have added it to the FAQ:
http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/circulation/#25
and the manual (which won't be on the web until Sunday)
http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commit;h=baa1ff503e65...
Nicole
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com> wrote: That sounds good. I know I'm guilty of going with summary versions of things whenever possible and only going back to the super detail level if necessary.
Lori
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote: Okay, this is so so so strange - I was looking at this with Liz yesterday. I see the word Important where you see a broken image. Now that I'm replying I see a broken image :)
Anyway, that problem aside - I can reword that to try and make it clearer in the manual - another change that I also think will be ignored - is to put it in the summary at the top of that page.
Nicole
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com> wrote: You mean this? Can't tell if it is labelled IMPORTANT ....(chrome?)
At the very least you will need to set an absolute default circulation rule. This rule should be set for the default itemtype, default branchcode and default patron category. That will catch anyone who doesn't match a specific rule. Patrons who do not match a specific rule will get blocked from placing holds, since there was no baseline number of holds to utilize.
Assuming one uses the documentation (impediment #1), maybe the confusion arises with the use of the expression "absolute default circulation rule." That certainly confuses me.
Also, my understanding is that you have to have the so-called absolute default circulation rule (aka default default) set or no one can place holds even if the other rules are set.
Anyway, clear to me that this is a source of confusion that would benefit from another round of wordsmithing or tightening up (on screen and in documentation). I'd be happy to help but I still don't understand really how it works.
Lori
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote: This is in the manual already - http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x3293#AEN3534 it's labeled as IMPORTANT for a reason :)
Nicole
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
That's the beauty of Koha Lori, you could be that person.
Chris
Lori Bowen Ayre <lori.ayre@galecia.com> wrote:
This is related to the requirement that the system have a "default default" set, otherwise the other defaults won't work...right? Brendan promises me someone will help work on the screen and/or documentation related to this setting. This is now the 5th person I've heard baffled by it in the last couple of days!
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> wrote:
I'm unfortunately, not quite understanding where you added the "default" rules at ?
Administration -> Circulation and fines rules
-- Owen
-- Web Developer Athens County Public Libraries http://www.myacpl.org _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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