Marc21 uniform-title and koha
Dear all, as a non specialist in marc21 i am being asked how to fill field 240 properly. What i understood from what was explained to me today, is that when 240 refers to a uniform title that doesn't have a clearly defined and unique author, a uniform-title authority will be used, with the header in 130. But if the title has one unique and unambiguous author, a person for instance, a personal name authority should be used, with the title in 100$t. Seeing how authorities work in Koha this doesn't seem feasible, as the subfields will be copied from the specified header to the bibliographic record, and this would involve copying a 100$t to a 240$a while the 100$a of the authority is copied to the 100$a of the bibliographic record. Can anyone confirm this understanding of the marc21 standard and give me a better clue of how it is supposed to be implemented in Koha? Thanks, -- Gaetan Boisson Chef de projet bibliothécaire BibLibre 06 52 42 51 29 108 avenue Breteuil 13006 Marseille gaetan.boisson@biblibre.com
On 9/22/2015 4:32 PM, Gaetan Boisson wrote:
as a non specialist in marc21 i am being asked how to fill field 240 properly.
What i understood from what was explained to me today, is that when 240 refers to a uniform title that doesn't have a clearly defined and unique author, a uniform-title authority will be used, with the header in 130. But if the title has one unique and unambiguous author, a person for instance, a personal name authority should be used, with the title in 100$t.
Seeing how authorities work in Koha this doesn't seem feasible, as the subfields will be copied from the specified header to the bibliographic record, and this would involve copying a 100$t to a 240$a while the 100$a of the authority is copied to the 100$a of the bibliographic record.
Can anyone confirm this understanding of the marc21 standard and give me a better clue of how it is supposed to be implemented in Koha?
Concerning the MARC format, when you have a uniform title, and it is main entry, e.g. "Beowulf" it goes into a 130. 130 \0 $aBeowulf If you have a uniform title and it has an author, the author's heading will go into the 1xx field (a person's name in 100, a corporate name in 110, etc.) and the title goes into 240, not into 100$t. So, you have 100 0\ $aHomer. 240 10 $aIliad This works differently if there is a uniform title for another work. So, if Homer's Iliad is one part of a book, e.g. the title is "Masterpieces of Greek literature" and one part is Homer's Iliad, it works: 245 00 Masterpieces of Greek literature ... 700 02 $aHomer.$tIliad. I don't know if this helps or just makes it more confusing... I have noticed that a lot of this does not seem to display in the default public view of Koha and if you want it to display, you have to implement it with your style sheet. James Weinheimer weinheimer.jim.l@gmail.com First Thus http://blog.jweinheimer.net First Thus Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/FirstThus Personal Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/james.weinheimer.35 Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JamesWeinheimer Cooperative Cataloging Rules http://sites.google.com/site/opencatalogingrules/ Cataloging Matters Podcasts http://blog.jweinheimer.net/cataloging-matters-podcasts The Library Herald http://libnews.jweinheimer.net/ [delay +30 days]
Thanks James. To clarify, the idea is to have : - an authority record with a 100 field that has the author's name in $a and the title in $t - a bibliographic record where the 100$a is filled with the 100$a from the autority record, and the 240$a from the 100$t of the authority record, which Koha cannot do. So we would have this in the bibliographic record : 100 0\ $9authid $aHomer. 240 10 $9authid $aIliad And this in the authority record : 001 authid 100 $aHomer $tIliad I would have thought that the 240 should be linked to an uniform title record (with the header in 130), but this kind of authority cannot have an author name. http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd130.html From what i understand, we should be filling both 100 and 240 in the biblio from the 100 in the authority in this situation, with subfields from the authority going in different subfields in the bibliographic record (namely the $t will end up in a $a). As far as i know, Koha really doesn't do that. Le 22/09/2015 18:28, James Weinheimer a écrit :
On 9/22/2015 4:32 PM, Gaetan Boisson wrote:
as a non specialist in marc21 i am being asked how to fill field 240 properly.
What i understood from what was explained to me today, is that when 240 refers to a uniform title that doesn't have a clearly defined and unique author, a uniform-title authority will be used, with the header in 130. But if the title has one unique and unambiguous author, a person for instance, a personal name authority should be used, with the title in 100$t.
Seeing how authorities work in Koha this doesn't seem feasible, as the subfields will be copied from the specified header to the bibliographic record, and this would involve copying a 100$t to a 240$a while the 100$a of the authority is copied to the 100$a of the bibliographic record.
Can anyone confirm this understanding of the marc21 standard and give me a better clue of how it is supposed to be implemented in Koha?
Concerning the MARC format, when you have a uniform title, and it is main entry, e.g. "Beowulf" it goes into a 130. 130 \0 $aBeowulf
If you have a uniform title and it has an author, the author's heading will go into the 1xx field (a person's name in 100, a corporate name in 110, etc.) and the title goes into 240, not into 100$t. So, you have 100 0\ $aHomer. 240 10 $aIliad
This works differently if there is a uniform title for another work. So, if Homer's Iliad is one part of a book, e.g. the title is "Masterpieces of Greek literature" and one part is Homer's Iliad, it works:
245 00 Masterpieces of Greek literature ... 700 02 $aHomer.$tIliad.
I don't know if this helps or just makes it more confusing...
I have noticed that a lot of this does not seem to display in the default public view of Koha and if you want it to display, you have to implement it with your style sheet.
James Weinheimer weinheimer.jim.l@gmail.com First Thus http://blog.jweinheimer.net First Thus Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/FirstThus Personal Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/james.weinheimer.35 Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JamesWeinheimer Cooperative Cataloging Rules http://sites.google.com/site/opencatalogingrules/ Cataloging Matters Podcasts http://blog.jweinheimer.net/cataloging-matters-podcasts The Library Herald http://libnews.jweinheimer.net/
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On 9/22/2015 6:48 PM, Gaetan Boisson wrote:
So we would have this in the bibliographic record : 100 0\ $9authid $aHomer. 240 10 $9authid $aIliad
And this in the authority record : 001 authid 100 $aHomer $tIliad
I would have thought that the 240 should be linked to an uniform title record (with the header in 130), but this kind of authority cannot have an author name. http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd130.html
From what i understand, we should be filling both 100 and 240 in the biblio from the 100 in the authority in this situation, with subfields from the authority going in different subfields in the bibliographic record (namely the $t will end up in a $a). As far as i know, Koha really doesn't do that.
As far as how it works in Koha, I haven't got a clue--in Koha or any other ILS. In my own opinion, MARC21 has been wrong for a long, long time because it splits the 100$a$t in the authority records into 1xx/240 in the bibliographic records. I have been told that the reason is very old (from the 1960s) that it was the only way to allow search and display of authors and titles separately. This was from the card catalog, where you could search for the author as main entry or the main title. In the added entries, it was always a matter that you had to search the author's name and the title did not work. Of course, we are well into the second decade of the 21st century, and these things should be taken care of. In short: I don't know. Other, wiser heads will have to help! James Weinheimer weinheimer.jim.l@gmail.com First Thus http://blog.jweinheimer.net First Thus Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/FirstThus Personal Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/james.weinheimer.35 Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JamesWeinheimer Cooperative Cataloging Rules http://sites.google.com/site/opencatalogingrules/ Cataloging Matters Podcasts http://blog.jweinheimer.net/cataloging-matters-podcasts The Library Herald http://libnews.jweinheimer.net/ [delay +30 days]
Hi, all-- Yes, much about this is a leftover from card catalogs, when the author (100 $a) would be printed on one line, and the uniform title (240) printed in brackets below it, to allow the card filer to collocate all titles together in the manual file. Uniform title main entries (from the 130, e.g., Bible) were often then interfiled in the author-title card catalog. Koha seems to do as well as other ILS's I've used, in that a human being is a necessary link between the authority record's 100 $a & $t to a 100/240 combination in the bib record during cataloging, but I have to admit I haven't explored Koha's functions fully since I create all my original records on OCLC. (I'm hoping to change that when the new cataloging interface is available in Koha!) I'm also curious as to how titles now collocated by uniform titles will look if the ByWater development for FRBR-izing happens. Our Koha catalog handles this keyword search pretty well: melville moby dick And one does get "Did you mean: Melville, Herman, 1819-1891. Moby Dick" <http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=an%3D3578> which, if clicked, does retrieve the 16 most relevant results (rather than the previous 42), so the author/uniform title authority record seems to be doing its job with OPAC searching. And, yes, MARC21 is wrong in many ways--it was developed in the 1960s when automating catalogs was very different--but that's why I'm very interested in the development of Bibframe! Cheerio, h2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center 415-561-7032, heather_hernandez@nps.gov http://www.nps.gov/safr/learn/historyculture/museum-collections.htm "The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail."--Gustaf Lindborg On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:42 AM, James Weinheimer < weinheimer.jim.l@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/22/2015 6:48 PM, Gaetan Boisson wrote:
So we would have this in the bibliographic record : 100 0\ $9authid $aHomer. 240 10 $9authid $aIliad
And this in the authority record : 001 authid 100 $aHomer $tIliad
I would have thought that the 240 should be linked to an uniform title record (with the header in 130), but this kind of authority cannot have an author name. http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd130.html
From what i understand, we should be filling both 100 and 240 in the biblio from the 100 in the authority in this situation, with subfields from the authority going in different subfields in the bibliographic record (namely the $t will end up in a $a). As far as i know, Koha really doesn't do that.
As far as how it works in Koha, I haven't got a clue--in Koha or any other ILS. In my own opinion, MARC21 has been wrong for a long, long time because it splits the 100$a$t in the authority records into 1xx/240 in the bibliographic records. I have been told that the reason is very old (from the 1960s) that it was the only way to allow search and display of authors and titles separately. This was from the card catalog, where you could search for the author as main entry or the main title. In the added entries, it was always a matter that you had to search the author's name and the title did not work.
Of course, we are well into the second decade of the 21st century, and these things should be taken care of.
In short: I don't know. Other, wiser heads will have to help!
James Weinheimer weinheimer.jim.l@gmail.com First Thus http://blog.jweinheimer.net First Thus Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/FirstThus Personal Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/james.weinheimer.35 Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JamesWeinheimer Cooperative Cataloging Rules http://sites.google.com/site/opencatalogingrules/ Cataloging Matters Podcasts http://blog.jweinheimer.net/cataloging-matters-podcasts The Library Herald http://libnews.jweinheimer.net/
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