"Refine your search" in Koha 3.16
Hi, I just upgraded from Koha 3.14 to 3.16. I noticed a difference in the „Refine your search bar“, which kind of irritates me. Koha 3.14 used to list only the contents of the field 100 under „Authors“. Koha 3.16 apparently also lists the contents of 400 fields. In my case, this behavior is not desirable. Is there a way to revert to the behavior of Koha 3.14? Regards, Stephan
Oh dear. I agree. This is not helpful. We now have all the incorrect versions of names appearing in the list. The point of the 4xx fields is to direct people to the correct version, not give them the incorrect versions as an alternative along with the correct version. On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Witoszynskyj Stephan <stephan@wito.org> wrote:
Hi,
I just upgraded from Koha 3.14 to 3.16. I noticed a difference in the „Refine your search bar“, which kind of irritates me. Koha 3.14 used to list only the contents of the field 100 under „Authors“. Koha 3.16 apparently also lists the contents of 400 fields. In my case, this behavior is not desirable. Is there a way to revert to the behavior of Koha 3.14?
Regards, Stephan _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Elaine Bradtke Data Wrangler VWML English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registered Company No. 297142 Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
Yes. Browse searching. With alphabetical lists of authors, subjects or titles. __________________________ Cecil Hillyard Washoe County Library -Tel: 775-327-8338 or 7750-327-8330 fax: 775-327-8334 -----Original Message----- From: Koha [mailto:koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Elaine Bradtke Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 11:51 AM To: Witoszynskyj Stephan Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] "Refine your search" in Koha 3.16 Oh dear. I agree. This is not helpful. We now have all the incorrect versions of names appearing in the list. The point of the 4xx fields is to direct people to the correct version, not give them the incorrect versions as an alternative along with the correct version. On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Witoszynskyj Stephan <stephan@wito.org> wrote:
Hi,
I just upgraded from Koha 3.14 to 3.16. I noticed a difference in the „Refine your search bar“, which kind of irritates me. Koha 3.14 used to list only the contents of the field 100 under „Authors“. Koha 3.16 apparently also lists the contents of 400 fields. In my case, this behavior is not desirable. Is there a way to revert to the behavior of Koha 3.14?
Regards, Stephan _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Elaine Bradtke Data Wrangler VWML English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registered Company No. 297142 Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52) _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Hi-- Elaine and Stephen, I agree--this isn't good! In our catalog (also 3.16), if you click one of the facets from a 400 field, it does return correct results based on the 100 field--e.g., if you do a search on Sea Poetry: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=sea+poetry And you click on the facet "Sinbad," (a 400 in the aut record) it will return the two results by "Dingle, Aylward Edward," (which is the 100 field in that aut record), but the user will have no idea why--there's no evidence that your search has been redirected due to your selecting a "see from" reference. I also hope that facets are not displayed from aut record 4XX fields in future versions--maybe the facets should only be generated from aut record 1XX fields, since those (ideally) match used headings in the catalog, and facets should never be generated from 4XX or 5XX fields in aut records. Cheers, heather ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center heather_hernandez@nps.gov 415-561-7032 (voice) 415-556-3540 (fax) http://www.nps.gov/safr/historyculture/museum-collections.htm "The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail."--Gustaf Lindborg On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Elaine Bradtke <eb@efdss.org> wrote:
Oh dear. I agree. This is not helpful. We now have all the incorrect versions of names appearing in the list. The point of the 4xx fields is to direct people to the correct version, not give them the incorrect versions as an alternative along with the correct version.
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Witoszynskyj Stephan <stephan@wito.org> wrote:
Hi,
I just upgraded from Koha 3.14 to 3.16. I noticed a difference in the „Refine your search bar“, which kind of irritates me. Koha 3.14 used to list only the contents of the field 100 under „Authors“. Koha 3.16 apparently also lists the contents of 400 fields. In my case, this behavior is not desirable. Is there a way to revert to the behavior of Koha 3.14?
Regards, Stephan _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Elaine Bradtke Data Wrangler VWML English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registered Company No. 297142 Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52) _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
* Hernandez, Heather (heather_hernandez@nps.gov) wrote:
Hi--
Elaine and Stephen, I agree--this isn't good! In our catalog (also 3.16), if you click one of the facets from a 400 field, it does return correct results based on the 100 field--e.g., if you do a search on Sea Poetry: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=sea+poetry
Hi All Please file a bug report for this at bugs.koha-community.org We think we have tracked it down to something to do with fix for large MARC records But are continuing to work on it. It is something to do with the IncludeSeeFromInSearches systempreference If you have had this on, or have it on, it makes the links so that when you search for the 400, you can still find results. To do this its linked, however in 3.12.x and 3.14.x it appears these links were filtered out when building the facets and for some reason this is not occuring. I think its to do with an indicator of z that gets added to 100 (of the biblio) on indexing (you wont see it on the record itself, its added when indexing) The old code got rid of this, so no, this is not required behaviour Chris -- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand
Please fill a bug. We can provide a fix soon. On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
* Hernandez, Heather (heather_hernandez@nps.gov) wrote:
Hi--
Elaine and Stephen, I agree--this isn't good! In our catalog (also 3.16), if you click one of the facets from a 400 field, it does return correct results based on the 100 field--e.g., if you do a search on Sea Poetry:
http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=sea+poetry
Hi All
Please file a bug report for this at bugs.koha-community.org
We think we have tracked it down to something to do with fix for large MARC records But are continuing to work on it. It is something to do with the IncludeSeeFromInSearches systempreference If you have had this on, or have it on, it makes the links so that when you search for the 400, you can still find results.
To do this its linked, however in 3.12.x and 3.14.x it appears these links were filtered out when building the facets and for some reason this is not occuring.
I think its to do with an indicator of z that gets added to 100 (of the biblio) on indexing (you wont see it on the record itself, its added when indexing)
The old code got rid of this, so no, this is not required behaviour
Chris
-- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Tomás Cohen Arazi Prosecretaría de Informática Universidad Nacional de Córdoba ✆ +54 351 5353750 ext 13168 GPG: B76C 6E7C 2D80 551A C765 E225 0A27 2EA1 B2F3 C15F
Bug submitted http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 Elaine On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Tomas Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com> wrote:
Please fill a bug. We can provide a fix soon.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
* Hernandez, Heather (heather_hernandez@nps.gov) wrote:
Hi--
Elaine and Stephen, I agree--this isn't good! In our catalog (also 3.16), if you click one of the facets from a 400 field, it does return correct results based on the 100 field--e.g., if you do a search on Sea Poetry:
Hi All
Please file a bug report for this at bugs.koha-community.org
We think we have tracked it down to something to do with fix for large MARC records But are continuing to work on it. It is something to do with the IncludeSeeFromInSearches systempreference If you have had this on, or have it on, it makes the links so that when you search for the 400, you can still find results.
To do this its linked, however in 3.12.x and 3.14.x it appears these
http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=sea+poetry links
were filtered out when building the facets and for some reason this is not occuring.
I think its to do with an indicator of z that gets added to 100 (of the biblio) on indexing (you wont see it on the record itself, its added when indexing)
The old code got rid of this, so no, this is not required behaviour
Chris
-- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Tomás Cohen Arazi Prosecretaría de Informática Universidad Nacional de Córdoba ✆ +54 351 5353750 ext 13168 GPG: B76C 6E7C 2D80 551A C765 E225 0A27 2EA1 B2F3 C15F _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Elaine Bradtke Data Wrangler VWML English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registered Company No. 297142 Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture" --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
Thank you for filing the bug, Elaine! Cheerio, heather ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center heather_hernandez@nps.gov 415-561-7032 (voice) 415-556-3540 (fax) http://www.nps.gov/safr/historyculture/museum-collections.htm "The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail."--Gustaf Lindborg
Hi, it’s basically the first time that I had a closer look at Koha’s source code and my knowledge of Perl is limited. So, I must admit that I don’t quite understand how things work. what is $marc_record->field($tag_num) in line 531 of C4/Search.pm supposed to return? If I use only the first element of the array that is returned by this line, the facets seem to be correct. Regards, Stephan Am 19.08.2014 um 22:46 schrieb Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz>:
* Hernandez, Heather (heather_hernandez@nps.gov) wrote:
Hi--
Elaine and Stephen, I agree--this isn't good! In our catalog (also 3.16), if you click one of the facets from a 400 field, it does return correct results based on the 100 field--e.g., if you do a search on Sea Poetry: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=sea+poetry
Hi All
Please file a bug report for this at bugs.koha-community.org
We think we have tracked it down to something to do with fix for large MARC records But are continuing to work on it. It is something to do with the IncludeSeeFromInSearches systempreference If you have had this on, or have it on, it makes the links so that when you search for the 400, you can still find results.
To do this its linked, however in 3.12.x and 3.14.x it appears these links were filtered out when building the facets and for some reason this is not occuring.
I think its to do with an indicator of z that gets added to 100 (of the biblio) on indexing (you wont see it on the record itself, its added when indexing)
The old code got rid of this, so no, this is not required behaviour
Chris
-- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
* Witoszynskyj Stephan (stephan@wito.org) wrote:
Hi,
it’s basically the first time that I had a closer look at Koha’s source code and my knowledge of Perl is limited. So, I must admit that I don’t quite understand how things work.
what is $marc_record->field($tag_num) in line 531 of C4/Search.pm supposed to return? If I use only the first element of the array that is returned by this line, the facets seem to be correct.
Its not that issue, but you are close, if you check the patch, on the bug it should help Probably we should move this to the koha-devel list if you want to discuss code specifics :) Chris
Regards, Stephan
Am 19.08.2014 um 22:46 schrieb Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz>:
* Hernandez, Heather (heather_hernandez@nps.gov) wrote:
Hi--
Elaine and Stephen, I agree--this isn't good! In our catalog (also 3.16), if you click one of the facets from a 400 field, it does return correct results based on the 100 field--e.g., if you do a search on Sea Poetry: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=sea+poetry
Hi All
Please file a bug report for this at bugs.koha-community.org
We think we have tracked it down to something to do with fix for large MARC records But are continuing to work on it. It is something to do with the IncludeSeeFromInSearches systempreference If you have had this on, or have it on, it makes the links so that when you search for the 400, you can still find results.
To do this its linked, however in 3.12.x and 3.14.x it appears these links were filtered out when building the facets and for some reason this is not occuring.
I think its to do with an indicator of z that gets added to 100 (of the biblio) on indexing (you wont see it on the record itself, its added when indexing)
The old code got rid of this, so no, this is not required behaviour
Chris
-- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand
Hi, I just had a look at the bugzilla page - wow, it’s amazing how fast a fix has been submitted. Although, I’d love to dig deeper into Koha and get more involved, I’m afraid that my time does not permit it currently. We are a very small, all-volunteer library. Currently, all my time goes into setting up Koha and cataloguing. Regards, Stephan Am 20.08.2014 um 00:55 schrieb Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz>:
* Witoszynskyj Stephan (stephan@wito.org) wrote:
Hi,
it’s basically the first time that I had a closer look at Koha’s source code and my knowledge of Perl is limited. So, I must admit that I don’t quite understand how things work.
what is $marc_record->field($tag_num) in line 531 of C4/Search.pm supposed to return? If I use only the first element of the array that is returned by this line, the facets seem to be correct.
Its not that issue, but you are close, if you check the patch, on the bug it should help
Probably we should move this to the koha-devel list if you want to discuss code specifics :)
Chris
Regards, Stephan
Am 19.08.2014 um 22:46 schrieb Chris Cormack <chrisc@catalyst.net.nz>:
* Hernandez, Heather (heather_hernandez@nps.gov) wrote:
Hi--
Elaine and Stephen, I agree--this isn't good! In our catalog (also 3.16), if you click one of the facets from a 400 field, it does return correct results based on the 100 field--e.g., if you do a search on Sea Poetry: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=sea+poetry
Hi All
Please file a bug report for this at bugs.koha-community.org
We think we have tracked it down to something to do with fix for large MARC records But are continuing to work on it. It is something to do with the IncludeSeeFromInSearches systempreference If you have had this on, or have it on, it makes the links so that when you search for the 400, you can still find results.
To do this its linked, however in 3.12.x and 3.14.x it appears these links were filtered out when building the facets and for some reason this is not occuring.
I think its to do with an indicator of z that gets added to 100 (of the biblio) on indexing (you wont see it on the record itself, its added when indexing)
The old code got rid of this, so no, this is not required behaviour
Chris
-- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand
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