Creating an INSTALL.opensuse file and Koha 3 and openSUSE versions
Hi, Following up the request from Joshua Ferraro asking me to create an INSTALL.opensuse file - http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2008-May/013916.html - here I am writing some questions regarding WHAT versions of Koha 3 and openSUSE I should target. I'm asking this because: 1 - openSUSE 11.0 is "just around the corner": the RC1 ("Release Candidate 1") is scheduled for the 29th of the current month (May 2008). The final version is scheduled for the 19th June - http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap/11.0 I already tried to install Koha 3 Beta 2 in the current openSUSE available Beta (openSUSE 11 Beta 3). Besides an annoying bug in package selection during openSUSE installation ( already acknowledged and corrected for RC1: "Package selector doesn't show any pattern" - https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=390139 ), the installation of Koha wasn't harder than it usually is. Actually, Koha installation was EASIER on openSUSE 11.0 Beta 3: at least, CPAN installation was easier than it was in openSUSE 10.3, because CPAN "setup wizard" now asks if it can assume what it thinks to be reasonable defaults. If you say "yes", CPAN just sets up itself. Pretty neat! :) So, my first question is: Should I create documentation for openSUSE 10.3 or for openSUSE 11 (Beta 3 / RC 1 / Final)? I would like very much to get feedback on that. However, I do think that the answer to that question depends partially on the answer to another question: 2 - Is a Beta 3 / Release Candidate of Koha 3 expected to be available soon? If a "Beta 3" of Koha is also "just around the corner", then it may make sense to create setup instructions based on openSUSE 10.3. If we're still moderately far from a Beta 3 / Release Candidate of Koha 3, it seems to me that basing the instructions on openSUSE 11 would be a "better bet". Another "issue" would be that it probably makes sense to integrate Koha dependencies that were created after Koha 3 Beta 2 (like the HTML::Scrubber Perl Module and ImageMagick) in this document. A final (?) question: based on feedback from Jesse (pianohacker at gmail.com) and Joshua Ferraro, I'm thinking of "putting" up an initial version of this document with instructions to install Koha in openSUSE in the Koha Developer's Wiki - http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php - letting people review and improve on it (thanks to Brendan Gallagher for already having volunteered to help!), and then putting the "final" version in the git tree as the INSTALL.opensuse text file. Comments and questions about all this... please? :) Best wishes, Ricardo Dias Marques lists AT ricmarques DOT net
Ricardo - I think that we should create the install file for 11.0 to be included in the next release (depending on timing of the next release), but a 10.3 file on the wiki could be a good idea. I haven't tried 11.0 OpenSuse yet, but I'm assuming that it is not that much different and it sounds a little bit easier! Please send me any information and I'll help compile it. I'll get to OpenSuse 11.0 as soon as I can (most likely tomorrow evening) and create some notes. I guess once we see the next release (past beta) for Koha 3 - we can adjust for that install too. -Brendan Brendan A. Gallagher Bibliomation INC. 32 Crest Rd Middlebury, CT 06762 phone: (203)577-4070 x119 On May 20, 2008, at 6:53 PM, Ricardo Dias Marques wrote:
Hi,
Following up the request from Joshua Ferraro asking me to create an INSTALL.opensuse file - http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2008-May/013916.html - here I am writing some questions regarding WHAT versions of Koha 3 and openSUSE I should target.
I'm asking this because:
1 - openSUSE 11.0 is "just around the corner": the RC1 ("Release Candidate 1") is scheduled for the 29th of the current month (May 2008). The final version is scheduled for the 19th June - http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap/11.0
I already tried to install Koha 3 Beta 2 in the current openSUSE available Beta (openSUSE 11 Beta 3). Besides an annoying bug in package selection during openSUSE installation ( already acknowledged and corrected for RC1: "Package selector doesn't show any pattern" - https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=390139 ), the installation of Koha wasn't harder than it usually is.
Actually, Koha installation was EASIER on openSUSE 11.0 Beta 3: at least, CPAN installation was easier than it was in openSUSE 10.3, because CPAN "setup wizard" now asks if it can assume what it thinks to be reasonable defaults. If you say "yes", CPAN just sets up itself. Pretty neat! :)
So, my first question is: Should I create documentation for openSUSE 10.3 or for openSUSE 11 (Beta 3 / RC 1 / Final)?
I would like very much to get feedback on that. However, I do think that the answer to that question depends partially on the answer to another question:
2 - Is a Beta 3 / Release Candidate of Koha 3 expected to be available soon?
If a "Beta 3" of Koha is also "just around the corner", then it may make sense to create setup instructions based on openSUSE 10.3. If we're still moderately far from a Beta 3 / Release Candidate of Koha 3, it seems to me that basing the instructions on openSUSE 11 would be a "better bet".
Another "issue" would be that it probably makes sense to integrate Koha dependencies that were created after Koha 3 Beta 2 (like the HTML::Scrubber Perl Module and ImageMagick) in this document.
A final (?) question: based on feedback from Jesse (pianohacker at gmail.com) and Joshua Ferraro, I'm thinking of "putting" up an initial version of this document with instructions to install Koha in openSUSE in the Koha Developer's Wiki - http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php - letting people review and improve on it (thanks to Brendan Gallagher for already having volunteered to help!), and then putting the "final" version in the git tree as the INSTALL.opensuse text file.
Comments and questions about all this... please? :)
Best wishes, Ricardo Dias Marques lists AT ricmarques DOT net _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Ricardo: While perhaps your ideas and questions below weren't directed at the end users I would like to respond. We are currently setting up a Koha server "just to test it and see how it works". I've got a tech assistant who is a senior CS major at a local college actually doing most of the typing and research, and I'm supposed to know some stuff about *nix, so between the two of us we can work through most things. I think an install how-to for OpenSuse would be great! We started off trying to use Ubuntu and the install directions on the wiki, but despite the generally well-regarded Synaptic/apt-get features of Deb/Ubuntu we just kept getting hit with dependency issues. We kept at them, and got as far as yaz and zebra and some dependency that I can't recall now, and at that point I just decided it would have to be easier with OpenSuse, with which I am more familiar anyway, so we started from scratch and installed OpenSuse 10.3. Everything up to the actual install of Koha 3 beta 2 on OpenSuse 10.3 was a complete breeze. We had yaz and zebra installed with just a couple of mouse clicks using Yast, in less than two minutes. At least half the perl modules were also in Yast, and weren't there in Synaptic, and overall Yast seemed much better at handling dependencies. I'm not trying to stir the OS pot here, but in my experience with this over the past couple of weeks OpenSuse has been much much easier to work with. I think we have Koha installed now too, but are dealing with another problem trying to http into it. I said all that I suppose just to make the point that some install instructions for OpenSuse would probably be a big help, regardless of whether it's 10.3 or 11, but since 11 and Koha 3 are so close to release, my suggestion would be to document those. Greg Lawson Network Administrator Rolling Hills Consolidated Library 1912 N. Belt Highway St. Joseph, MO 64506 --------------------------------- Ricardo Dias Marques wrote:
Hi,
Following up the request from Joshua Ferraro asking me to create an INSTALL.opensuse file - http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2008-May/013916.html - here I am writing some questions regarding WHAT versions of Koha 3 and openSUSE I should target.
I'm asking this because:
1 - openSUSE 11.0 is "just around the corner": the RC1 ("Release Candidate 1") is scheduled for the 29th of the current month (May 2008). The final version is scheduled for the 19th June - http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap/11.0
I already tried to install Koha 3 Beta 2 in the current openSUSE available Beta (openSUSE 11 Beta 3). Besides an annoying bug in package selection during openSUSE installation ( already acknowledged and corrected for RC1: "Package selector doesn't show any pattern" - https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=390139 ), the installation of Koha wasn't harder than it usually is.
Actually, Koha installation was EASIER on openSUSE 11.0 Beta 3: at least, CPAN installation was easier than it was in openSUSE 10.3, because CPAN "setup wizard" now asks if it can assume what it thinks to be reasonable defaults. If you say "yes", CPAN just sets up itself. Pretty neat! :)
So, my first question is: Should I create documentation for openSUSE 10.3 or for openSUSE 11 (Beta 3 / RC 1 / Final)?
I would like very much to get feedback on that. However, I do think that the answer to that question depends partially on the answer to another question:
2 - Is a Beta 3 / Release Candidate of Koha 3 expected to be available soon?
If a "Beta 3" of Koha is also "just around the corner", then it may make sense to create setup instructions based on openSUSE 10.3. If we're still moderately far from a Beta 3 / Release Candidate of Koha 3, it seems to me that basing the instructions on openSUSE 11 would be a "better bet".
Another "issue" would be that it probably makes sense to integrate Koha dependencies that were created after Koha 3 Beta 2 (like the HTML::Scrubber Perl Module and ImageMagick) in this document.
A final (?) question: based on feedback from Jesse (pianohacker at gmail.com) and Joshua Ferraro, I'm thinking of "putting" up an initial version of this document with instructions to install Koha in openSUSE in the Koha Developer's Wiki - http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php - letting people review and improve on it (thanks to Brendan Gallagher for already having volunteered to help!), and then putting the "final" version in the git tree as the INSTALL.opensuse text file.
Comments and questions about all this... please? :)
Best wishes, Ricardo Dias Marques lists AT ricmarques DOT net
Hi all, I just created a web page in the Koha Developer Wiki - http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php - explaining how to install Koha 3 in openSUSE 11 (RC1). The page that I created is located here: Installation Guide for Installing Koha 3 on openSUSE 11 http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=opensuse_11.0 I think that this work is almost finished. Feel free to review it and send comments (by replying to this post in the mailing list). If you decide to change the page in the wiki, please inform here in the Mailing List about what changes you made! :) Well, it's already past 1:00 AM here now. Time to go to sleep! Best wishes, Ricardo Dias Marques lists AT ricmarques DOT net On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Ricardo Dias Marques <lists@ricmarques.net> wrote:
Hi,
Following up the request from Joshua Ferraro asking me to create an INSTALL.opensuse file - http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2008-May/013916.html - here I am writing some questions regarding WHAT versions of Koha 3 and openSUSE I should target.
I'm asking this because:
1 - openSUSE 11.0 is "just around the corner": the RC1 ("Release Candidate 1") is scheduled for the 29th of the current month (May 2008). The final version is scheduled for the 19th June - http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap/11.0
I already tried to install Koha 3 Beta 2 in the current openSUSE available Beta (openSUSE 11 Beta 3). Besides an annoying bug in package selection during openSUSE installation ( already acknowledged and corrected for RC1: "Package selector doesn't show any pattern" - https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=390139 ), the installation of Koha wasn't harder than it usually is.
Actually, Koha installation was EASIER on openSUSE 11.0 Beta 3: at least, CPAN installation was easier than it was in openSUSE 10.3, because CPAN "setup wizard" now asks if it can assume what it thinks to be reasonable defaults. If you say "yes", CPAN just sets up itself. Pretty neat! :)
So, my first question is: Should I create documentation for openSUSE 10.3 or for openSUSE 11 (Beta 3 / RC 1 / Final)?
I would like very much to get feedback on that. However, I do think that the answer to that question depends partially on the answer to another question:
2 - Is a Beta 3 / Release Candidate of Koha 3 expected to be available soon?
If a "Beta 3" of Koha is also "just around the corner", then it may make sense to create setup instructions based on openSUSE 10.3. If we're still moderately far from a Beta 3 / Release Candidate of Koha 3, it seems to me that basing the instructions on openSUSE 11 would be a "better bet".
Another "issue" would be that it probably makes sense to integrate Koha dependencies that were created after Koha 3 Beta 2 (like the HTML::Scrubber Perl Module and ImageMagick) in this document.
A final (?) question: based on feedback from Jesse (pianohacker at gmail.com) and Joshua Ferraro, I'm thinking of "putting" up an initial version of this document with instructions to install Koha in openSUSE in the Koha Developer's Wiki - http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php - letting people review and improve on it (thanks to Brendan Gallagher for already having volunteered to help!), and then putting the "final" version in the git tree as the INSTALL.opensuse text file.
Comments and questions about all this... please? :)
Best wishes, Ricardo Dias Marques lists AT ricmarques DOT net
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