Hi all, I've got a Koha presentation at the OLC annual conference (http://www.heightslibrary.org/webmaster/olc_showcase/annual.php) and I'd like to put together a list of Koha features that folks are working on. I'll probably write up a brief synopsis of features similar to the one I did last time I presented on Koha (http://kados.org/LibraryScience/koha_at_a_glance.html). So if you're working on something exciting let me know and I'll include it. Other than that I'll be relying on release-notes, etc. Thanks, Joshua
Joshua Ferraro wrote:
Hi all,
I've got a Koha presentation at the OLC annual conference (http://www.heightslibrary.org/webmaster/olc_showcase/annual.php) and I'd like to put together a list of Koha features that folks are working on. I'll probably write up a brief synopsis of features similar to the one I did last time I presented on Koha
AFAIK, the features developped are described on the wiki : http://www.saas.nsw.edu.au/koha_wiki/index.php?page=KohaRoadmap (I just updated it) Note Koha 2.2 will be 90% "french coded" : * 50% by me. * 30% by jean baron, hired by ENSMP for 6 months * 10% doXulting with 5% NPL and 5% katipo Anyone working on something else *MUST* contact me ASAP to get a chance to have features included in official release... Note : I'll be in holidays from friday, july 17 to august, 1 -- Paul POULAIN Consultant indépendant en logiciels libres responsable francophone de koha (SIGB libre http://www.koha-fr.org)
Friday, July 23, 2004 00:50 CDT Hi, all, First things first - Joshua: I tried getting to those links you posted in your July 14th message. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Ferraro" <jferraro@athenscounty.lib.oh.us> To: <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Cc: <koha-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 8:16 AM Subject: [Koha] Koha Presentation
Hi all,
I've got a Koha presentation at the OLC annual conference (http://www.heightslibrary.org/webmaster/olc_showcase/annual.php) and I'd like to put together a list of Koha features that folks are working on. I'll probably write up a brief synopsis of features similar to the one I did last time I presented on Koha (http://kados.org/LibraryScience/koha_at_a_glance.html). So if you're working on something exciting let me know and I'll include it. Other than that I'll be relying on release-notes, etc.
I don't know what I am doing wrong, but I can't get to them. (I had a similar problem with the link Ed Estka tried to offer). Any suggestions? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I have a few questions that have sort of crystallised out of my (so far poor) efforts to help out Christian Calle with his Koha questions. Please, anyone more conversant in Spanish, pitch in. (I'd have better luck writing him in Latin.) I played around online with the test version of Koha, not realising that any changes I made there would remain. I apologise if I've screwed anything up for anyone. At the time, I was intending to delineate the complete MARC21 field structure, but then I thought (erroneously?) that it wouldn't be available for anyone actually to use so what would be the point. Now, Christian is asking for a delineation of MARC tag structure (I think he was expecting that it was included withinn Koha to begin with, which I understood is not the case), so .... * Question 1: For his sake and for the sake of others, if I and/or interested others 'fix' what is available in the test version online, would it be possible for him/others to simply download it somehow? # From looking at this, it dawned on me that I wasn't seeing the Leader or the 001 defined (and had forgot to try to add them myself when mucking about), hence ... * Question 2: What is the relationship of the MARC record data within Koha? What I mean is, what does Koha actually do with the information in the fixed-length fields if anything? (BTW the current connection in the 003 test drive is wrong according to what I was taught/have seen). I had thought that Koha cataloguing could be worked without reference to the underlying database. If not, (follow-up questions): how do we connect all the potential MARC fields to whatever fields are in the core of the Koha database? Does Koha just turf info that doesn't fit into those, i.e. are records deconstructed and fields lost once imported? Devolving from this worry about MARC cataloguing and the integrity of records within the database (again: important for sharing and any future migrations), I realised I had never seen an answer to a rather straightforward OPAC matter, thus: * Question 3: What is the correspondence between the MARC structure and the actual records displayed in the Koha OPAC? I have to try to explain what I mean by analogy. The systems I am most familiar with (TKM MicroCat, Athena, Voyager) allow the library administrator/s to decide how to display information retrieved by OPAC searches. Librarians assumed a default non-MARC record display (which is almost certainly right) and the systems allowed decisions to be made about which fields to display, which to suppress, and in what order elements from tags should appear, and (with 2 of the systems), the label that would appear for the user beside the information (e.g. Author(s):, Title:, etc.). For that matter ... Question 4: How/Where does one set which MARC fields one wants searchable for a given search type? Is this adjustable? Just a few 'light' questions. ;-) Any and all answers appreciated (good ones, especially so ;-) ). Cheers, Steven F. Baljkas library tech at large Koha neophyte Winnipeg, MB, Canada --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 20/07/2004
Sunday, August 1, 2004 18:48 CDT Hi, all, I appended the following questions to a message back to Joshua on the 23rd and as I've had no takers since then, I am reposting in the hope that someone may be able to tackle some of these questions. Any modifications I've enclosed in [ ]. Thanks in advance for any and all efforts. And here goes ... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I have a few questions that have sort of crystallised out of my (so far poor) efforts to help out Christian Calle with his Koha questions. [snip] I played around online with the test version of Koha, not realising that any changes I made there would remain. I apologise if I've screwed anything up for anyone. At the time, I was intending to delineate the complete MARC21 field structure, but then I thought (erroneously?) that it wouldn't be available for anyone actually to use so what would be the point. Now, Christian [was] asking for a delineation of MARC tag structure (I think he was expecting that it was included withinn Koha to begin with, which I understood is not the case), so .... * Question 1: For his sake and for the sake of others, if I and/or interested others 'fix' what is available in the test version online, would it be possible for him/others to simply download it somehow? # From looking at this, it dawned on me that I wasn't seeing the Leader or the 001 defined (and had forgot to try to add them myself when mucking about), hence ... * Question 2: What is the relationship of the MARC record data within Koha? [Specifically, for the moment] what does Koha actually do with the information in the fixed-length fields if anything? (BTW the current connection in the 003 test drive is wrong according to what I was taught/have seen). I had thought that Koha cataloguing could be worked without reference to the underlying database. If not, (follow-up questions): how do we connect all the potential MARC fields to whatever [and however many] fields are in the core of the Koha database? [How does Koha deal with fields that can repeat in MARC, for 2 common examples, 500 notes and 650 subject headings?] Does Koha just turf info that doesn't fit into those, i.e. are records deconstructed and fields lost once imported? Devolving from this worry about MARC cataloguing and the integrity of records within the database (again: important for sharing and any future migrations), I realised I had never seen an answer to a rather straightforward OPAC matter, thus: * Question 3: What is the correspondence between the MARC structure and the actual records displayed in the Koha OPAC? I have to try to explain what I mean by analogy. The systems I am most familiar with (TKM MicroCat, Athena, Voyager) allow the library administrator/s to decide how to display information retrieved by OPAC searches. Librarians assumed a default non-MARC record display (which is almost certainly right [in that who other than a librarian would want that format]) and the systems allowed decisions to be made about which fields to display, which to suppress, and in what order elements from tags should appear, and (with 2 of the systems), the label that would appear for the user beside the information (e.g. Author(s):, Title:, etc.). For that matter ... * Question 4: How/Where does one set which MARC fields one wants searchable for a given search type? Is this adjustable? Just a few 'light' questions. ;-) Any and all answers appreciated (good ones, especially so ;-) ). Cheers, Steven F. Baljkas library tech at large Koha neophyte Winnipeg, MB, Canada --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 29/07/2004
Steven F. Baljkas said: <snip>
At the time, I was intending to delineate the complete MARC21 field structure, but then I thought (erroneously?) that it wouldn't be available for anyone actually to use so what would be the point.
Steven, do you mean you were trying to get all 1,150 MARC tags and subfields that are defined in Koha 2.0 to display? Because if so, the easiest way would be to do a mysql: mysql>update marc_subfield_structure set tab=0; But the result would be a _very long_ webpage! -- Stephen Hedges Skemotah Solutions, USA www.skemotah.com -- shedges@skemotah.com
Sunday, August 1, 2004 21:30 CDT Hi, Stephen, Thanks for the rapid response. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Hedges" <shedges@skemotah.com> To: "Steven F. Baljkas" <baljkas@mb.sympatico.ca> Cc: "Joshua Ferraro" <jferraro@athenscounty.lib.oh.us>; <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz>; <baljkas@mts.net> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Koha] Some questions on Koha and MARC
Steven F. Baljkas said: <snip>
At the time, I was intending to delineate the complete MARC21 field structure, but then I thought (erroneously?) that it wouldn't be available for anyone actually to use so what would be the point.
Steven, do you mean you were trying to get all 1,150 MARC tags and subfields that are defined in Koha 2.0 to display?
No, that wasn't what I meant, Stephen. What I had understood was that all of the tags one wanted to be able to use in Koha had to be defined in the MARC tag structure under Parameters, that any fields not listed there would be lost, so that they would be potentially displayable, usable behind the scenes at least. # From Chris Cormack's answer to Eric on another matter, I gather that I misunderstood. What is the purpose of defining the MARC tag structure under Parameters then? This relates to a subsequent question in that list you tackled as I also wanted to know how to go about configuring which MARC fields would display for patrons in the OPAC. As long as I had access through a MARC editor to say, 583 (Action) notes, I probably wouldn't want anyone else to see them on the OPAC. However, I wouldn't want Koha to lose them in importing records.
Because if so, the easiest way would be to do a mysql:
mysql>update marc_subfield_structure set tab=0;
But the result would be a _very long_ webpage!
Thank you for this. It is always good to know. Thanks again for your help. Steven F. Baljkas library tech at large Koha neophyte Winnipeg, MB, Canada --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 29/07/2004
Steven F. Baljkas said:
Steven, do you mean you were trying to get all 1,150 MARC tags and subfields that are defined in Koha 2.0 to display?
No, that wasn't what I meant, Stephen.
What I had understood was that all of the tags one wanted to be able to use in Koha had to be defined in the MARC tag structure under Parameters, that any fields not listed there would be lost, so that they would be potentially displayable, usable behind the scenes at least.
No MARC information is _ever_ lost once it's added to Koha! (Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there.) If you don't see a tag and subfield you want to see, go to the "MARC subfield structure admin" page and set the "tab" value to something other than -1 ("ignore"). There's much more info about this at http://www.skemotah.com/Migrating_to_Koha.html#Prerequisites Stephen -- Stephen Hedges Skemotah Solutions, USA www.skemotah.com -- shedges@skemotah.com
On 2004-08-02 00:55:04 +0100 Steven F. Baljkas <baljkas@mb.sympatico.ca> wrote:
* Question 1: For his sake and for the sake of others, if I and/or interested others 'fix' what is available in the test version online, would it be possible for him/others to simply download it somehow?
You need to mysql dump the tables marc_subfield_structure and marc_tag_structure to a file - if someone is willing to give me data files that they'll put their name on as accurate, I'll add them to the 2.0.x distribution as options (or replacements if told by enough people).
* Question 2: What is the relationship of the MARC record data within Koha?
Blue?
[Specifically, for the moment] what does Koha actually do with the information in the fixed-length fields if anything?
Remind me what fixed-length fields are: the header? IIRC (and it's been a while), koha ignores them.
(BTW the current connection in the 003 test drive is wrong according to what I was taught/have seen).
What would be correct?
[...] [How does Koha deal with fields that can repeat in MARC, for 2 common examples, 500 notes and 650 subject headings?]
I think it has only uses the first at the moment, IIRC. (Again, it's been a while.)
* Question 3: What is the correspondence between the MARC structure and the actual records displayed in the Koha OPAC?
I think this is again governed by the structure tables mentioned above, as is Q4. The search reporter is a little unsophisticated in 2.0.x. I hope that it's being improved in 2.1.x along with the "google-style" searcher, but I'm not working on that (too busy!). -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and not of any group I know http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ for creative copyleft computing Please email about: BT alternative for line rental+DSL; Education on SMEs+EU FP6; office filing that works fast
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