Is there some kind of standard way that MARC records are displayed to users? Does anybody have any documentation for how this is done? Steve.
Try www.people.virginia.edu/~nsr4n/Koha/ There may be something at the Library of Congress site on this... maybe Nick On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Tonnesen Steve wrote:
Is there some kind of standard way that MARC records are displayed to users? Does anybody have any documentation for how this is done?
Steve.
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On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 11:46:15AM -0800, Tonnesen Steve wrote:
Is there some kind of standard way that MARC records are displayed to users?
Not really it was meant to be an exchange format and display would be a different format entirely. No two systems have done it identically, although most use a variation on the 100 $aAuthor, Joe 245 $aTitle etc approach. Even the character used for the subfield separator is not standardized. Colin
On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Colin Campbell wrote:
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 11:46:15AM -0800, Tonnesen Steve wrote:
Is there some kind of standard way that MARC records are displayed to users?
Not really it was meant to be an exchange format and display would be a different format entirely. No two systems have done it identically, although most use a variation on the
100 $aAuthor, Joe 245 $aTitle etc
approach. Even the character used for the subfield separator is not standardized.
I was thinking more along the lines of how are records formatted for display to users. I suspect that generally more information is shown to librarians than OPAC users. As an example, let's say that there is a record with the following 245 field: 245 $aCrazy Sexy Cool $h[sound recording] / $cTLC. I assume that this title would be displayed as: Title: Crazy Sexy Cool [sound recording] / TLC. Does order matter? What if the $h subfield appeared after the $c subfield? Would the Title then be printed as: Title: Crazy Sexy Cool TLC. [sound recording] / My example obviously makes no sense, but the schema I'm currently using makes no distinction regarding order of fields and subfields, and I'm starting to think this is wrong and I need to add in support for ordering. I've just been displaying the records in alphabetical/numerical order (a-z then 1-9 for subfields). Developing a good MARC record editor in HTML forms is going to be difficult, I think. Anybody have any pointers on things they absolutely need in a MARC record editor? If a 245 tag contains a $c subfield (Statement of Responsibility), would you then _not_ print out any data in the 100 tag (Main Entry -- Personal Name)? Which tags are typically displayed for OPAC users? Which for librarians? Or do librarians like to see full MARC records in all their glory? :) My first attempt at a MARC editor is at: http://142.28.224.14/cgi-bin/koha/acqui.simple/viewmarc.pl feel free to try it out and make comments. It's pretty klunky... and probably badly broken in some places. It's all demo data, so make changes however you like. Click on the "With Tag Names" link to show descriptions of all the fields and subfields. Steve.
On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 12:42:00PM -0800, Tonnesen Steve wrote:
I was thinking more along the lines of how are records formatted for display to users. I suspect that generally more information is shown to librarians than OPAC users.
I think even greater anarchy reigns there. ISBD is supposed to be a related display standard but there is no real fit between it and MARC.
Does order matter? What if the $h subfield appeared after the $c subfield? Would the Title then be printed as:
Order within the tag does matter. (I worked with a system where you could have subfields ordered, it was never turned on and did lead to some weird results if you did.
If a 245 tag contains a $c subfield (Statement of Responsibility), would you then _not_ print out any data in the 100 tag (Main Entry -- Personal Name)?
I think this a problem that's unresoved, the statement of responsibility is what appears in the ISBD Book description the 100 is really the index tracing, but most systems display the 100 (and usually the statement of responsibility too!)
Which tags are typically displayed for OPAC users? Which for librarians? Or do librarians like to see full MARC records in all their glory? :)
For librarians I's go with display all. (avoids nasty surprises later)
My first attempt at a MARC editor is at:
http://142.28.224.14/cgi-bin/koha/acqui.simple/viewmarc.pl
feel free to try it out and make comments.
Personally I prefer to edit the whole tag rather than subfield at a time. I think it gives a better approach to record structure. (and in MARC21/USMARC with the embedded punctuation having a hanging space ; at the end of the field looks weird). But that may just be a personal predjudice. Cheers Colin
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