Hi, Author results also appears when I limit my search to title only. I think it appears because KOHA indexing treats statement of responsibility as part of title. How can I edit zebra indexing to get rid of that ? Example : I searched for Shakespeare in Title but document with Shakespeare as an Auhtor also appear in the search result. Please see the link below. https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=ti&q=shakespeare Best regards Nikesh *Nikesh Narayanan *I Systems & e-Librarian I Khalifa University of Science, Technology and Research <http://www.kustar.ac.ae/> PO Box 127788, Abu Dhabi, UAE Mobile : +971507097346
Hi Nikesh , You may check this file for mappings : https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/master/etc/zebradb/marc_defs/mar... I've tested some of your results and as I understand from that mapping the results are correct according to mappings there for example this record from your results : https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=32490 Marc file has : 505 0 0 *_g*I. *_t*Sleepy Hollow, 1844 -- *_g*II. *_t*Shakespeare's American Fable -- if you checked that mentioned mapping and exactly this line ( for 505t) : https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/b4e525e4f6382a421cb7e77632fca8ec... you will find it was mapped to title Please consider that marc standards has other places that holds title related field. if you believe that some of those mappings were wrong please let the community know about that . *Best wishes * On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:32 PM, nikesh <nikeshn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Author results also appears when I limit my search to title only. I think it appears because KOHA indexing treats statement of responsibility as part of title. How can I edit zebra indexing to get rid of that ?
Example : I searched for Shakespeare in Title but document with Shakespeare as an Auhtor also appear in the search result. Please see the link below.
https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=ti&q=shakespeare
Best regards
Nikesh
*Nikesh Narayanan *I Systems & e-Librarian I
Khalifa University of Science, Technology and Research <http://www.kustar.ac.ae/>
PO Box 127788, Abu Dhabi, UAE
Mobile : +971507097346 _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- *Karam Qubsi*
Many thanks Karam. I don't know much about Zebra indexing and how it works. But I have one doubt regarding this. Tag 505 represent formatted content. Actually when we limit to title, it should take only from Tag 245 . Tag 245 indexing are given as follows in the document melm 245$a Title-cover:w,Title-cover:p,Title-cover:s,Title:w,Title:p,Title:s melm 245$c Author,Author-in-order:w,Author-in-order:p,Author-in-order:s melm 245$9 Cross-Reference:w,Koha-Auth-Number If I remove 245$c and 245 $9 ,from Zebra indexing, would that solve the issue ? Best regards Nikesh *Nikesh Narayanan *I Systems & e-Librarian I Khalifa University of Science, Technology and Research <http://www.kustar.ac.ae/> PO Box 127788, Abu Dhabi, UAE Mobile : +971507097346 On 24 September 2017 at 20:46, Karam Qubsi <karamqubsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Nikesh , You may check this file for mappings : https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/master/ etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/recorad.abs
I've tested some of your results and as I understand from that mapping the results are correct according to mappings there for example this record from your results : https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl? biblionumber=32490 Marc file has : 505 0 0 *_g*I. *_t*Sleepy Hollow, 1844 -- *_g*II. *_t*Shakespeare's American Fable --
if you checked that mentioned mapping and exactly this line ( for 505t) :
https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/b4e525e4f6382a421cb7e77632fca8ec...
you will find it was mapped to title
Please consider that marc standards has other places that holds title related field.
if you believe that some of those mappings were wrong please let the community know about that .
*Best wishes *
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:32 PM, nikesh <nikeshn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Author results also appears when I limit my search to title only. I think it appears because KOHA indexing treats statement of responsibility as part of title. How can I edit zebra indexing to get rid of that ?
Example : I searched for Shakespeare in Title but document with Shakespeare as an Auhtor also appear in the search result. Please see the link below.
https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=ti &q=shakespeare
Best regards
Nikesh
*Nikesh Narayanan *I Systems & e-Librarian I
Khalifa University of Science, Technology and Research <http://www.kustar.ac.ae/>
PO Box 127788, Abu Dhabi, UAE
Mobile : +971507097346 _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- *Karam Qubsi*
Hi , I didn't test that before , but I think you need to remove every occurrence of the word "TITLE:x" in that mapping file except the one you want ( 245a ) after that you need to rebuild your zebra <https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-rebuild-zebra>index , ( I'm not really sure that this is all you need to do ) so I don't advice you to try that on a production server as I mentioned to you, your problem is not only in the responsibility field ( 245c) it is with every occurrence of "TITLE" index . in the example url that I sent to you there is no mention to Shakespeare in 245c at all , https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=32490 245 1 4 *_a*The machine in the garden : *_b*technology and the pastoral ideal in America / *_c*Leo Marx. but in 505 : 505 0 0 *_g*I. *_t*Sleepy Hollow, 1844 -- *_g*II. *_t*Shakespeare's American Fable -- *_g*III. and that record was the first result in the search query <https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=ti&q=shakespeare>you suggested . Best wishes . On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:59 AM, nikesh <nikeshn@gmail.com> wrote:
Many thanks Karam. I don't know much about Zebra indexing and how it works. But I have one doubt regarding this.
Tag 505 represent formatted content. Actually when we limit to title, it should take only from Tag 245 .
Tag 245 indexing are given as follows in the document
melm 245$a Title-cover:w,Title-cover:p,Title-cover:s,Title:w,Title:p, Title:s
melm 245$c Author,Author-in-order:w,Author-in-order:p,Author-in- order:s
melm 245$9 Cross-Reference:w,Koha-Auth-Number
If I remove 245$c and 245 $9 ,from Zebra indexing, would that solve the issue ?
Best regards
Nikesh
*Nikesh Narayanan *I Systems & e-Librarian I
Khalifa University of Science, Technology and Research <http://www.kustar.ac.ae/>
PO Box 127788, Abu Dhabi, UAE
Mobile : +971507097346 <+971%2050%20709%207346>
On 24 September 2017 at 20:46, Karam Qubsi <karamqubsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Nikesh , You may check this file for mappings : https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/master/etc/ zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/recorad.abs
I've tested some of your results and as I understand from that mapping the results are correct according to mappings there for example this record from your results : https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?bi blionumber=32490 Marc file has : 505 0 0 *_g*I. *_t*Sleepy Hollow, 1844 -- *_g*II. *_t*Shakespeare's American Fable --
if you checked that mentioned mapping and exactly this line ( for 505t) :
https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/b4e525e4f6382a421cb7e77632fca8ec...
you will find it was mapped to title
Please consider that marc standards has other places that holds title related field.
if you believe that some of those mappings were wrong please let the community know about that .
*Best wishes *
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:32 PM, nikesh <nikeshn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Author results also appears when I limit my search to title only. I think it appears because KOHA indexing treats statement of responsibility as part of title. How can I edit zebra indexing to get rid of that ?
Example : I searched for Shakespeare in Title but document with Shakespeare as an Auhtor also appear in the search result. Please see the link below.
https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=ti &q=shakespeare
Best regards
Nikesh
*Nikesh Narayanan *I Systems & e-Librarian I
Khalifa University of Science, Technology and Research <http://www.kustar.ac.ae/>
PO Box 127788, Abu Dhabi, UAE
Mobile : +971507097346 _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- *Karam Qubsi*
-- *Karam Qubsi*
Thanks Karam. You are right. System pulls title from all the occurrences like tag 245, 505 and probably more when you search for title. That make sense to include 505 in title search as it deals with table of contents.Series is also a part of title search. My issue is to remove statement of responsibility from the title search. So i think I need to identify all the statement of responsibility field which is associated to title in different fields like 245 , 505 etc. and remove them from zebra indexing. I will test it in our test server and see how it works. Actually we migrated from Millennium and title search pulls out only those records with search words in title only (including title, series, table of contents etc). So users complained about this strange behavior in KOHA.. This is not only our case , but appear in all KOHA default implementations. Regards Nikes *Nikesh Narayanan *I Systems & e-Librarian I Khalifa University of Science, Technology and Research <http://www.kustar.ac.ae/> PO Box 127788, Abu Dhabi, UAE Mobile : +971507097346 On 25 September 2017 at 12:15, Karam Qubsi <karamqubsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi ,
I didn't test that before , but I think you need to remove every occurrence of the word "TITLE:x" in that mapping file except the one you want ( 245a )
after that you need to rebuild your zebra <https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-rebuild-zebra>index ,
( I'm not really sure that this is all you need to do ) so I don't advice you to try that on a production server
as I mentioned to you, your problem is not only in the responsibility field ( 245c) it is with every occurrence of "TITLE" index . in the example url that I sent to you there is no mention to Shakespeare in 245c at all , https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl? biblionumber=32490
245 1 4 *_a*The machine in the garden : *_b*technology and the pastoral ideal in America / *_c*Leo Marx.
but in 505 : 505 0 0 *_g*I. *_t*Sleepy Hollow, 1844 -- *_g*II. *_t*Shakespeare's American Fable -- *_g*III.
and that record was the first result in the search query <https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=ti&q=shakespeare>you suggested .
Best wishes .
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:59 AM, nikesh <nikeshn@gmail.com> wrote:
Many thanks Karam. I don't know much about Zebra indexing and how it works. But I have one doubt regarding this.
Tag 505 represent formatted content. Actually when we limit to title, it should take only from Tag 245 .
Tag 245 indexing are given as follows in the document
melm 245$a Title-cover:w,Title-cover:p,Ti tle-cover:s,Title:w,Title:p,Title:s
melm 245$c Author,Author-in-order:w,Autho r-in-order:p,Author-in-order:s
melm 245$9 Cross-Reference:w,Koha-Auth-Number
If I remove 245$c and 245 $9 ,from Zebra indexing, would that solve the issue ?
Best regards
Nikesh
*Nikesh Narayanan *I Systems & e-Librarian I
Khalifa University of Science, Technology and Research <http://www.kustar.ac.ae/>
PO Box 127788, Abu Dhabi, UAE
Mobile : +971507097346 <+971%2050%20709%207346>
On 24 September 2017 at 20:46, Karam Qubsi <karamqubsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Nikesh , You may check this file for mappings : https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/master/etc/zebra db/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/recorad.abs
I've tested some of your results and as I understand from that mapping the results are correct according to mappings there for example this record from your results : https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?bi blionumber=32490 Marc file has : 505 0 0 *_g*I. *_t*Sleepy Hollow, 1844 -- *_g*II. *_t*Shakespeare's American Fable --
if you checked that mentioned mapping and exactly this line ( for 505t) :
https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/b4e525e4f6382a421cb7e77632fca8ec...
you will find it was mapped to title
Please consider that marc standards has other places that holds title related field.
if you believe that some of those mappings were wrong please let the community know about that .
*Best wishes *
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:32 PM, nikesh <nikeshn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Author results also appears when I limit my search to title only. I think it appears because KOHA indexing treats statement of responsibility as part of title. How can I edit zebra indexing to get rid of that ?
Example : I searched for Shakespeare in Title but document with Shakespeare as an Auhtor also appear in the search result. Please see the link below.
https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=ti &q=shakespeare
Best regards
Nikesh
*Nikesh Narayanan *I Systems & e-Librarian I
Khalifa University of Science, Technology and Research <http://www.kustar.ac.ae/>
PO Box 127788, Abu Dhabi, UAE
Mobile : +971507097346 _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- *Karam Qubsi*
-- *Karam Qubsi*
Hi Nikes, record.abs is no longer used since we switched to DOM indexing. You will have to edit the .xsl files. This wiki page might be helpful: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_add_new_zebra_index Hope this helps, Katrin On 25.09.2017 10:47, nikesh wrote:
Thanks Karam. You are right. System pulls title from all the occurrences like tag 245, 505 and probably more when you search for title. That make sense to include 505 in title search as it deals with table of contents.Series is also a part of title search. My issue is to remove statement of responsibility from the title search. So i think I need to identify all the statement of responsibility field which is associated to title in different fields like 245 , 505 etc. and remove them from zebra indexing. I will test it in our test server and see how it works. Actually we migrated from Millennium and title search pulls out only those records with search words in title only (including title, series, table of contents etc). So users complained about this strange behavior in KOHA.. This is not only our case , but appear in all KOHA default implementations.
Regards Nikes
*Nikesh Narayanan *I Systems & e-Librarian I
Khalifa University of Science, Technology and Research <http://www.kustar.ac.ae/>
PO Box 127788, Abu Dhabi, UAE
Mobile : +971507097346
On 25 September 2017 at 12:15, Karam Qubsi <karamqubsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi ,
I didn't test that before , but I think you need to remove every occurrence of the word "TITLE:x" in that mapping file except the one you want ( 245a )
after that you need to rebuild your zebra <https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-rebuild-zebra>index ,
( I'm not really sure that this is all you need to do ) so I don't advice you to try that on a production server
as I mentioned to you, your problem is not only in the responsibility field ( 245c) it is with every occurrence of "TITLE" index . in the example url that I sent to you there is no mention to Shakespeare in 245c at all , https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl? biblionumber=32490
245 1 4 *_a*The machine in the garden : *_b*technology and the pastoral ideal in America / *_c*Leo Marx.
but in 505 : 505 0 0 *_g*I. *_t*Sleepy Hollow, 1844 -- *_g*II. *_t*Shakespeare's American Fable -- *_g*III.
and that record was the first result in the search query <https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=ti&q=shakespeare>you suggested .
Best wishes .
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 2:59 AM, nikesh <nikeshn@gmail.com> wrote:
Many thanks Karam. I don't know much about Zebra indexing and how it works. But I have one doubt regarding this.
Tag 505 represent formatted content. Actually when we limit to title, it should take only from Tag 245 .
Tag 245 indexing are given as follows in the document
melm 245$a Title-cover:w,Title-cover:p,Ti tle-cover:s,Title:w,Title:p,Title:s
melm 245$c Author,Author-in-order:w,Autho r-in-order:p,Author-in-order:s
melm 245$9 Cross-Reference:w,Koha-Auth-Number
If I remove 245$c and 245 $9 ,from Zebra indexing, would that solve the issue ?
Best regards
Nikesh
*Nikesh Narayanan *I Systems & e-Librarian I
Khalifa University of Science, Technology and Research <http://www.kustar.ac.ae/>
PO Box 127788, Abu Dhabi, UAE
Mobile : +971507097346 <+971%2050%20709%207346>
On 24 September 2017 at 20:46, Karam Qubsi <karamqubsi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Nikesh , You may check this file for mappings : https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/master/etc/zebra db/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/recorad.abs
I've tested some of your results and as I understand from that mapping the results are correct according to mappings there for example this record from your results : https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?bi blionumber=32490 Marc file has : 505 0 0 *_g*I. *_t*Sleepy Hollow, 1844 -- *_g*II. *_t*Shakespeare's American Fable --
if you checked that mentioned mapping and exactly this line ( for 505t) :
https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/b4e525e4f6382a421cb7e77632fca8ec...
you will find it was mapped to title
Please consider that marc standards has other places that holds title related field.
if you believe that some of those mappings were wrong please let the community know about that .
*Best wishes *
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:32 PM, nikesh <nikeshn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Author results also appears when I limit my search to title only. I think it appears because KOHA indexing treats statement of responsibility as part of title. How can I edit zebra indexing to get rid of that ?
Example : I searched for Shakespeare in Title but document with Shakespeare as an Auhtor also appear in the search result. Please see the link below.
https://opac.kustar.ac.ae/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=ti &q=shakespeare
Best regards
Nikesh
*Nikesh Narayanan *I Systems & e-Librarian I
Khalifa University of Science, Technology and Research <http://www.kustar.ac.ae/>
PO Box 127788, Abu Dhabi, UAE
Mobile : +971507097346 _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- *Karam Qubsi*
-- *Karam Qubsi*
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