Hi All, we are new to Koha, and have not been able to find an answer to this problem... We are trying to create MARC Frameworks for various record types, but cannot work out how to set the Leader 06 (Type of material), 07 (Bib level) and 008 fields to correctly define the materials. For example: Visual Material [VM] for our 'Art' framework: Leader position 06 = k Leader position 07 = m 008 field = position 33 = art original = a Continuing Resource CR for our 'Serials' framework: Leader position 06 = a Leader position 07 = s 008 field = position 21 = Periodical = p Can these data elements be hard coded into a framework? Thank you Sally Stewart Librarian Library [cid:logo_2_44d690de-8900-4005-856c-10b45c4e3142.gif] Royal Botanic Gardens Victoria Birdwood Avenue Melbourne Victoria 3004 T +61 3 9252 2320<tel:+61%203%209252%202320> Sally.Stewart@rbg.vic.gov.au<mailto:Sally.Stewart@rbg.vic.gov.au> rbg.vic.gov.au<http://www.rbg.vic.gov.au/> [cid:Facebook_262bd55f-acb1-4241-885d-aeca54d786cf.gif]<https://www.facebook.com/BotanicGardensVictoria/> [cid:Twitterlogo_0239f90c-b285-48e4-b395-f0ebad856f0f.jpg] <https://twitter.com/RBG_Victoria> [cid:Instagramlogo_1bc60a46-7ae4-482c-b6ce-3162b19f9931.jpg] <https://www.instagram.com/royalbotanicgardensvic/> We acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and learn and pay our respects to their Elders past, present and future. This email and any attachments may contain information that is personal, confidential, legally privileged and/or copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the prior written consent of the sender and/or copyright owner. It is the responsibility of the recipient to check for and remove viruses. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by return email, delete it from your system and destroy any copies. You are not authorised to use, communicate or rely on the information contained in this email. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
Hi Sally I'm no expert on this but it looks as though there is a box for 'Default value' -- of course, I don't know how you'd enter a default value there (regular expressions?) so that the system fills in characters 0-5, then 'km', then the rest of the leader. Same deal for the 008. Both fields seem to refer to plugins (marc21_leader.pl and marc21_field_008.pl), so it's possible that there will be a way to set these values there, but I'm not really sure (and it sounds like a really bad idea to keep that sort of information in something that can be overwritten next upgrade). With kind regards from the Dalton McCaughey Library Team Carlos Lopez Dalton McCaughey Library | 29 College Crescent, Parkville, VICTORIA 3052 Ph: 03 9340 8888 ext.1 | library@dml.vic.edu.au | library.dmlibrary.org.au -----Original Message----- From: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> On Behalf Of Sally Stewart Sent: Monday, 29 July 2019 4:14 PM To: koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Subject: [Koha] Editing MARC Frameworks Hi All, we are new to Koha, and have not been able to find an answer to this problem... We are trying to create MARC Frameworks for various record types, but cannot work out how to set the Leader 06 (Type of material), 07 (Bib level) and 008 fields to correctly define the materials. For example: Visual Material [VM] for our 'Art' framework: Leader position 06 = k Leader position 07 = m 008 field = position 33 = art original = a Continuing Resource CR for our 'Serials' framework: Leader position 06 = a Leader position 07 = s 008 field = position 21 = Periodical = p Can these data elements be hard coded into a framework? Thank you Sally Stewart Librarian Library [cid:logo_2_44d690de-8900-4005-856c-10b45c4e3142.gif] Royal Botanic Gardens Victoria Birdwood Avenue Melbourne Victoria 3004 T +61 3 9252 2320<tel:+61%203%209252%202320> Sally.Stewart@rbg.vic.gov.au<mailto:Sally.Stewart@rbg.vic.gov.au> rbg.vic.gov.au<http://www.rbg.vic.gov.au/> [cid:Facebook_262bd55f-acb1-4241-885d-aeca54d786cf.gif]<https://www.facebook.com/BotanicGardensVictoria/> [cid:Twitterlogo_0239f90c-b285-48e4-b395-f0ebad856f0f.jpg] <https://twitter.com/RBG_Victoria> [cid:Instagramlogo_1bc60a46-7ae4-482c-b6ce-3162b19f9931.jpg] <https://www.instagram.com/royalbotanicgardensvic/> We acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and learn and pay our respects to their Elders past, present and future. This email and any attachments may contain information that is personal, confidential, legally privileged and/or copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the prior written consent of the sender and/or copyright owner. It is the responsibility of the recipient to check for and remove viruses. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by return email, delete it from your system and destroy any copies. You are not authorised to use, communicate or rely on the information contained in this email. Please consider the environment before printing this email. _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha -- Click here to report this message as spam: https://console.mailguard.com.au/ras/1WcOMsavJx/1VUOE9lDXJkvZnCEQsISiR/0.4
Hey Carlos! Yes - we've had a look at the .pl files and can see that the various types are noted within, but I don't know enough about coding to make sense of it. Perhaps we have to create custom .pl files for each framework, and refer to them in the 'Other options' tab? Thanks for your thoughts. Sally. Sally Stewart Librarian Library Royal Botanic Gardens Victoria Birdwood Avenue Melbourne Victoria 3004 T +61 3 9252 2320 Sally.Stewart@rbg.vic.gov.au rbg.vic.gov.au -----Original Message----- From: Carlos Lopez <clopez@dml.vic.edu.au> Sent: Monday, 29 July 2019 5:09 PM To: Sally Stewart <Sally.Stewart@rbg.vic.gov.au>; koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Subject: RE: Editing MARC Frameworks Hi Sally I'm no expert on this but it looks as though there is a box for 'Default value' -- of course, I don't know how you'd enter a default value there (regular expressions?) so that the system fills in characters 0-5, then 'km', then the rest of the leader. Same deal for the 008. Both fields seem to refer to plugins (marc21_leader.pl and marc21_field_008.pl), so it's possible that there will be a way to set these values there, but I'm not really sure (and it sounds like a really bad idea to keep that sort of information in something that can be overwritten next upgrade). With kind regards from the Dalton McCaughey Library Team Carlos Lopez Dalton McCaughey Library | 29 College Crescent, Parkville, VICTORIA 3052 Ph: 03 9340 8888 ext.1 | library@dml.vic.edu.au | library.dmlibrary.org.au -----Original Message----- From: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> On Behalf Of Sally Stewart Sent: Monday, 29 July 2019 4:14 PM To: koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Subject: [Koha] Editing MARC Frameworks Hi All, we are new to Koha, and have not been able to find an answer to this problem... 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Hi Sally, I usually use the default setting in the bibliographic frameworks as suggested by Carlos. I create a record setting the defaults I want using the plugin (for the 00x this refers to the pop-up window you get instead of entering the values manually). Then I copy the value created and copy that into the default setting. Be careful to include all leading spaces. Hope this helps, Katrin On 29.07.19 08:13, Sally Stewart wrote:
Hi All, we are new to Koha, and have not been able to find an answer to this problem...
We are trying to create MARC Frameworks for various record types, but cannot work out how to set the Leader 06 (Type of material), 07 (Bib level) and 008 fields to correctly define the materials. For example:
Visual Material [VM] for our 'Art' framework: Leader position 06 = k Leader position 07 = m 008 field = position 33 = art original = a
Continuing Resource CR for our 'Serials' framework: Leader position 06 = a Leader position 07 = s 008 field = position 21 = Periodical = p
Can these data elements be hard coded into a framework?
Thank you
Sally Stewart Librarian Library
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Hi Katrin Thanks for that. So what you're saying is that we should open the MARC editor, set the values we want for that material type in the leader, then copy the entire leader into 'Advanced constraints > Default value' for the leader in the new MARC framework. Is that right? With kind regards from the Dalton McCaughey Library Team Carlos Lopez Dalton McCaughey Library | 29 College Crescent, Parkville, VICTORIA 3052 Ph: 03 9340 8888 ext.1 | library@dml.vic.edu.au | library.dmlibrary.org.au -----Original Message----- From: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> On Behalf Of Katrin Fischer Sent: Tuesday, 30 July 2019 4:25 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Editing MARC Frameworks Hi Sally, I usually use the default setting in the bibliographic frameworks as suggested by Carlos. I create a record setting the defaults I want using the plugin (for the 00x this refers to the pop-up window you get instead of entering the values manually). Then I copy the value created and copy that into the default setting. Be careful to include all leading spaces. Hope this helps, Katrin On 29.07.19 08:13, Sally Stewart wrote:
Hi All, we are new to Koha, and have not been able to find an answer to this problem...
We are trying to create MARC Frameworks for various record types, but cannot work out how to set the Leader 06 (Type of material), 07 (Bib level) and 008 fields to correctly define the materials. For example:
Visual Material [VM] for our 'Art' framework: Leader position 06 = k Leader position 07 = m 008 field = position 33 = art original = a
Continuing Resource CR for our 'Serials' framework: Leader position 06 = a Leader position 07 = s 008 field = position 21 = Periodical = p
Can these data elements be hard coded into a framework?
Thank you
Sally Stewart Librarian Library
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Exactly :) On 30.07.19 01:02, Carlos Lopez wrote:
Hi Katrin
Thanks for that.
So what you're saying is that we should open the MARC editor, set the values we want for that material type in the leader, then copy the entire leader into 'Advanced constraints > Default value' for the leader in the new MARC framework. Is that right?
With kind regards from the Dalton McCaughey Library Team
Carlos Lopez
Dalton McCaughey Library | 29 College Crescent, Parkville, VICTORIA 3052 Ph: 03 9340 8888 ext.1 | library@dml.vic.edu.au | library.dmlibrary.org.au
-----Original Message----- From: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> On Behalf Of Katrin Fischer Sent: Tuesday, 30 July 2019 4:25 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Editing MARC Frameworks
Hi Sally,
I usually use the default setting in the bibliographic frameworks as suggested by Carlos.
I create a record setting the defaults I want using the plugin (for the 00x this refers to the pop-up window you get instead of entering the values manually). Then I copy the value created and copy that into the default setting. Be careful to include all leading spaces.
Hope this helps,
Katrin
On 29.07.19 08:13, Sally Stewart wrote:
Hi All, we are new to Koha, and have not been able to find an answer to this problem...
We are trying to create MARC Frameworks for various record types, but cannot work out how to set the Leader 06 (Type of material), 07 (Bib level) and 008 fields to correctly define the materials. For example:
Visual Material [VM] for our 'Art' framework: Leader position 06 = k Leader position 07 = m 008 field = position 33 = art original = a
Continuing Resource CR for our 'Serials' framework: Leader position 06 = a Leader position 07 = s 008 field = position 21 = Periodical = p
Can these data elements be hard coded into a framework?
Thank you
Sally Stewart Librarian Library
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Thanks to you both! A fab solution. I didn't understand initially, but after a cup of tea, what you both have communicated, has sunk in. Greatly appreciated. Sally Sally Stewart Librarian Library Royal Botanic Gardens Victoria Birdwood Avenue Melbourne Victoria 3004 T +61 3 9252 2320 Sally.Stewart@rbg.vic.gov.au rbg.vic.gov.au We acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and learn and pay our respects to their Elders past, present and future. This email and any attachments may contain information that is personal, confidential, legally privileged and/or copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the prior written consent of the sender and/or copyright owner. It is the responsibility of the recipient to check for and remove viruses. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by return email, delete it from your system and destroy any copies. You are not authorised to use, communicate or rely on the information contained in this email. Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> On Behalf Of Katrin Fischer Sent: Tuesday, 30 July 2019 4:25 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Editing MARC Frameworks Hi Sally, I usually use the default setting in the bibliographic frameworks as suggested by Carlos. I create a record setting the defaults I want using the plugin (for the 00x this refers to the pop-up window you get instead of entering the values manually). Then I copy the value created and copy that into the default setting. Be careful to include all leading spaces. Hope this helps, Katrin On 29.07.19 08:13, Sally Stewart wrote:
Hi All, we are new to Koha, and have not been able to find an answer to this problem...
We are trying to create MARC Frameworks for various record types, but cannot work out how to set the Leader 06 (Type of material), 07 (Bib level) and 008 fields to correctly define the materials. For example:
Visual Material [VM] for our 'Art' framework: Leader position 06 = k Leader position 07 = m 008 field = position 33 = art original = a
Continuing Resource CR for our 'Serials' framework: Leader position 06 = a Leader position 07 = s 008 field = position 21 = Periodical = p
Can these data elements be hard coded into a framework?
Thank you
Sally Stewart Librarian Library
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participants (3)
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Carlos Lopez -
Katrin Fischer -
Sally Stewart