Linux Flavour - Koha
Hello Everyone, I am sorry, if my question been answered in the past. However, I would like to ask this question that I want to know which of the linux flavour best/stable for koha implementation. I would certainly appreciate your suggestions. Someone said, Debian seems to be best :-) please advice me. Regards Mr. Yesan Sellan Chief Librarian South Asia Institute of Advanced Christian Studies, Kothanur PO Bangalore - 560077 INDIA Alternative Email: yesans@gmail.com Ph: 91-80-2846 5649/5235/5344 Fax: 91-80-2846 5412 IMPORTANT : This message is intended only for the addressee. It may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you.
Probably the majority of currently-active installs are on Debian, though I've not seen any firm numbers. Etch and Lenny both seem to work well, and the instructions bundled with Koha are clear and complete, as far as I can tell, having used them both repeatedly. ...but if Debian's not your favorite distro, don't let that stop you. It's been done on Fedora, and OpenSUSE, and I even did it on Easy Peasy, on a little bitty netbook, mostly to see if I *could*. (Yep. Works great, though a little slow. 512 MB of RAM will do that, when you have Gnome running...) J. David Bavousett Software Engineer Open Source & Library Systems | P | T | F | S | -----Original Message----- From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz on behalf of Librarian, SAIACS Sent: Wed 8/5/2009 4:35 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [Koha] Linux Flavour - Koha Hello Everyone, I am sorry, if my question been answered in the past. However, I would like to ask this question that I want to know which of the linux flavour best/stable for koha implementation. I would certainly appreciate your suggestions. Someone said, Debian seems to be best :-) please advice me. Regards Mr. Yesan Sellan Chief Librarian South Asia Institute of Advanced Christian Studies, Kothanur PO Bangalore - 560077 INDIA Alternative Email: yesans@gmail.com Ph: 91-80-2846 5649/5235/5344 Fax: 91-80-2846 5412 IMPORTANT : This message is intended only for the addressee. It may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you.
Bavousett, David a écrit :
...but if Debian's not your favorite distro, don't let that stop you. It's been done on Fedora, and OpenSUSE, and I even did it on Easy Peasy, on a little bitty netbook, mostly to see if I *could*. (Yep. Works great, though a little slow. 512 MB of RAM will do that, when you have Gnome running...)
we also did it on mandriva, RedHat 5 (not 4 => mySQL 4 shipped in RH4), on some sun solaris (a pain...), on mac OSX (a pain, but thanks to marc chantreux, a BibLibrarian, we now have macports of all packages needed) in fact, the only OS that don't work with koha 3 is MS-windows :-( -- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08
On the easy to use and setup level, i swould recommend debian. the apt-get system REALLY works with the koha install. I installed on Lenny and it works like a charm for a production level, i wouldn't recommend Fedora as it is a ... testing (for want of a better word) distro for RHEL. in the same way, I don't recommend Ubuntu either. there are too many places things can go horribly pear shaped. has anyone used it on CentOS? any Slackers here? Suchetha On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:18 PM, paul POULAIN<paul.poulain@biblibre.com> wrote:
Bavousett, David a écrit :
...but if Debian's not your favorite distro, don't let that stop you. It's been done on Fedora, and OpenSUSE, and I even did it on Easy Peasy, on a little bitty netbook, mostly to see if I *could*. (Yep. Works great, though a little slow. 512 MB of RAM will do that, when you have Gnome running...)
we also did it on mandriva, RedHat 5 (not 4 => mySQL 4 shipped in RH4), on some sun solaris (a pain...), on mac OSX (a pain, but thanks to marc chantreux, a BibLibrarian, we now have macports of all packages needed)
in fact, the only OS that don't work with koha 3 is MS-windows :-(
-- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08
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Hi, On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Suchetha Wijenayake<suchetha@gmail.com> wrote: <snipped>
for a production level, i wouldn't recommend Fedora as it is a ... testing (for want of a better word) distro for RHEL.
You are certainly welcome to your opinion. FWIW, we've had progressively tested and deployed Koha 2.x on Fedora x86_64 (back in the days of Core 3 and 4). One of these is a perfectly running University Library setup on 2.2.5 on FC4 since 2005 onwards and still going strong.
in the same way, I don't recommend Ubuntu either.
Inspite of this -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS which ensures 5 years of support for server edition? Come on, lets have better reasons than distro fanaticism ;-) Also your options often depend on the type of hardware you are deploying on and what support you need to provide. For example, we recently had to install Koha 3.0.3 on a HP c3000 BladeSystem based Proliant dual Quad-core Xeon blade. CentOS proved to be the only stable answer, whereas Ubuntu made a mess of the h/w enum. Of course, this has nothing to do with Koha. But the point I'm making here is that for commercial / institution grade deployments, Koha may not be the only deciding factor for the choice of OS. Which leads us back to the question of making Koha behave nicely on other distros as well. cheers -indra
at the risk of dragging this offtopic.. I am not advocating this based on distro choice.. if i had my druthers i'd be using slackware.. i have been a slacker since way back. but, slackware is only NOW available on 64-bit, debian doesn't sleep well on my laptop, and ubuntu Just Works. I don't trust fedora because it was created as a testing ground for applications and features that would eventually show up in RHEL. i don't trust Ubuntu (even LTS) because it tends to borrow too heavily from Debian testing and unstable. for me, a server (production grade) would be running Debian Stable, RHEL/CentOS or some other tested and stabilised distro. even if i have to give up shiny features for stability. and yes i don't trust ext4 for production grade work yet. i guess i am a paranoid throwback to the old days where you didn't trust a distro until you had given it a year or two. but that's just me. but i must say, koha is an awesome project. soon my intimate association with it will end as the project comes to a close. but it was a pleasure working with all of you guys Suchetha On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Indranil Das Gupta<indradg@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Suchetha Wijenayake<suchetha@gmail.com> wrote:
<snipped>
for a production level, i wouldn't recommend Fedora as it is a ... testing (for want of a better word) distro for RHEL.
You are certainly welcome to your opinion. FWIW, we've had progressively tested and deployed Koha 2.x on Fedora x86_64 (back in the days of Core 3 and 4). One of these is a perfectly running University Library setup on 2.2.5 on FC4 since 2005 onwards and still going strong.
in the same way, I don't recommend Ubuntu either.
Inspite of this -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS which ensures 5 years of support for server edition?
Come on, lets have better reasons than distro fanaticism ;-)
Also your options often depend on the type of hardware you are deploying on and what support you need to provide.
For example, we recently had to install Koha 3.0.3 on a HP c3000 BladeSystem based Proliant dual Quad-core Xeon blade. CentOS proved to be the only stable answer, whereas Ubuntu made a mess of the h/w enum. Of course, this has nothing to do with Koha. But the point I'm making here is that for commercial / institution grade deployments, Koha may not be the only deciding factor for the choice of OS. Which leads us back to the question of making Koha behave nicely on other distros as well.
cheers -indra
-- Check my photo album: http://picasaweb.google.com/suchetha Rants Raves and Miscellaneous Musings: http://raramimu.blogspot.com Why do I smell brimstone? And what am I doing in this hand-basket?
I am a big fan of Ubuntu, but I always use Debian for my Koha servers. I've found it far easier and better supported on Debian than Ubuntu Server. That is to say, I've had to do a lot more work to get the correct software versions for Koha to work on Ubuntu Server, where using Debian I rarely if ever have to find specific software versions. For most of my IT career I've been a Debian advocate. When Ubuntu Server came out, I started switching everything over to it. After a couple years I'm now going back to Debian for the server side. I just find it easier to support and work with than Ubuntu Server. These are of course my own experiences, and your mileage may vary ; ) Caveat: At this point I have what is essentially no experience with RedHat. I haven't used it since version 2 or 3. RPM dependencies left me with such a bad taste in my mouth I never went back. I've never had a need to anyway. Kyle http://www.kylehall.info Information Technology Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org ) On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Indranil Das Gupta<indradg@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Suchetha Wijenayake<suchetha@gmail.com> wrote:
<snipped>
for a production level, i wouldn't recommend Fedora as it is a ... testing (for want of a better word) distro for RHEL.
You are certainly welcome to your opinion. FWIW, we've had progressively tested and deployed Koha 2.x on Fedora x86_64 (back in the days of Core 3 and 4). One of these is a perfectly running University Library setup on 2.2.5 on FC4 since 2005 onwards and still going strong.
in the same way, I don't recommend Ubuntu either.
Inspite of this -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS which ensures 5 years of support for server edition?
Come on, lets have better reasons than distro fanaticism ;-)
Also your options often depend on the type of hardware you are deploying on and what support you need to provide.
For example, we recently had to install Koha 3.0.3 on a HP c3000 BladeSystem based Proliant dual Quad-core Xeon blade. CentOS proved to be the only stable answer, whereas Ubuntu made a mess of the h/w enum. Of course, this has nothing to do with Koha. But the point I'm making here is that for commercial / institution grade deployments, Koha may not be the only deciding factor for the choice of OS. Which leads us back to the question of making Koha behave nicely on other distros as well.
cheers -indra _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
On 08/05/2009 12:48 PM, Suchetha Wijenayake wrote:
On the easy to use and setup level,
When selecting a distro the ease of use and setup is often a matter of which distro you feel most at ease and comfortable with. The requirements for koha can be met by any contemporary distro and I don't think there are any factors within koha itself to influence you either way. Good luck with whatever you choose, Colin -- Colin Campbell Software Engineer, PTFS Europe Limited Content Management and Library Solutions +44 (0) 208 366 1295 (phone) +44 (0) 7759 633626 (mobile) colin.campbell@ptfs-europe.com skype: colin_campbell2 http://www.ptfs-europe.com
I am no developer or librarian, in fact I am not in the field at all, but I can confirm that it works on CentOS. I installed 2.2.9 on CentOS 4.7. More precisely, on a business server based on CentOS 4.7 (SME server - see www.contribs.org) because I wanted a good business server solution, secure and easy to administer (web interface). Eugen
-----Original Message----- From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha- bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Suchetha Wijenayake Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 4:48 AM To: paul POULAIN Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Linux Flavour - Koha
On the easy to use and setup level, i swould recommend debian.
the apt-get system REALLY works with the koha install.
I installed on Lenny and it works like a charm
for a production level, i wouldn't recommend Fedora as it is a ... testing (for want of a better word) distro for RHEL.
in the same way, I don't recommend Ubuntu either.
there are too many places things can go horribly pear shaped.
has anyone used it on CentOS? any Slackers here?
Suchetha
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:18 PM, paul POULAIN<paul.poulain@biblibre.com> wrote:
Bavousett, David a écrit :
...but if Debian's not your favorite distro, don't let that stop
you.
It's been done on Fedora, and OpenSUSE, and I even did it on Easy Peasy, on a little bitty netbook, mostly to see if I *could*. (Yep. Works great, though a little slow. 512 MB of RAM will do that, when you have Gnome running...)
we also did it on mandriva, RedHat 5 (not 4 => mySQL 4 shipped in RH4), on some sun solaris (a pain...), on mac OSX (a pain, but thanks to marc chantreux, a BibLibrarian, we now have macports of all packages needed)
in fact, the only OS that don't work with koha 3 is MS-windows :-(
-- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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Rants Raves and Miscellaneous Musings: http://raramimu.blogspot.com
Why do I smell brimstone? And what am I doing in this hand-basket? _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Hello Eugen, I've never tried koha on SME Server though i use it for other stuffs. How easy is it to install on SME server? Does zebra work? Do you have an install guide you could share? I've found SME server easy to administer for Non Linux Admins and it would be cool to have it run my koha installs. Olugbenga Adara Mobile: 234-803-3220288 --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Eugen Matei <ematei@xpertcomputing.com> wrote:
From: Eugen Matei <ematei@xpertcomputing.com> Subject: Re: [Koha] Linux Flavour - Koha To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 7:18 AM I am no developer or librarian, in fact I am not in the field at all, but I can confirm that it works on CentOS. I installed 2.2.9 on CentOS 4.7. More precisely, on a business server based on CentOS 4.7 (SME server - see www.contribs.org) because I wanted a good business server solution, secure and easy to administer (web interface).
Eugen
-----Original Message----- From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha- bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Suchetha Wijenayake Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 4:48 AM To: paul POULAIN Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Linux Flavour - Koha
On the easy to use and setup level, i swould recommend debian.
the apt-get system REALLY works with the koha install.
I installed on Lenny and it works like a charm
for a production level, i wouldn't recommend Fedora as it is a ... testing (for want of a better word) distro for RHEL.
in the same way, I don't recommend Ubuntu either.
there are too many places things can go horribly pear shaped.
has anyone used it on CentOS? any Slackers here?
Suchetha
Bavousett, David a écrit :
...but if Debian's not your favorite distro,
don't let that stop you.
It's been done on Fedora, and OpenSUSE, and I even did it on Easy Peasy, on a little bitty netbook, mostly to see if I *could*. (Yep. Works great, though a little slow. 512 MB of RAM will do that, when you have Gnome running...)
we also did it on mandriva, RedHat 5 (not 4 => mySQL 4 shipped in RH4), on some sun solaris (a pain...), on mac OSX (a
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:18 PM, paul POULAIN<paul.poulain@biblibre.com> wrote: pain, but thanks to marc
chantreux, a BibLibrarian, we now have macports of all packages needed)
in fact, the only OS that don't work with koha 3 is MS-windows :-(
-- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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Rants Raves and Miscellaneous Musings: http://raramimu.blogspot.com
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Not being very familiar with Linux, I chose to install with OpenSUSE 11 because of the very detailed instructions (25 pages!) at http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=opensuse_11.0. Are there such detailed instructions for any other flavour? At the third attempt I have got it working reasonably well but I’m now stuck because that doesn’t cover Zebra and I need the same level of detailed help. Andrew Buxton IDS From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Librarian, SAIACS Sent: 05 August 2009 09:35 To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [Koha] Linux Flavour - Koha Hello Everyone, I am sorry, if my question been answered in the past. However, I would like to ask this question that I want to know which of the linux flavour best/stable for koha implementation. I would certainly appreciate your suggestions. Someone said, Debian seems to be best :) please advice me. Regards Mr. Yesan Sellan Chief Librarian South Asia Institute of Advanced Christian Studies, Kothanur PO Bangalore - 560077 INDIA This message is for the addressee only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of IDS. Institute of Development Studies at the University of Sussex, Brighton BN1 9RE Tel: +44 (0)1273 606261; Fax: +44 (0)1273 621202 IDS, a charitable company limited by guarantee: Registered Charity No. 306371; Registered in England 877338; VAT No. GB 350 899914
2009/8/5 Andrew Buxton <A.Buxton@ids.ac.uk>
Not being very familiar with Linux, I chose to install with OpenSUSE 11 because of the very detailed instructions (25 pages!) at http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=opensuse_11.0. Are there such detailed instructions for any other flavour?
See any of the INSTALL documents in the repository (including your local installations): http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=tree There's also the blazing moon guide for Koha on Ubuntu: http://www.blazingmoon.org/guides/k3-on-u810-1.html -- Joe Atzberger LibLime - Open Source Library Solutions
Ubuntu is also straightforward and you can use the LTS if you are concerned about support. Edward --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org> wrote:
I am sorry, if my question been answered in the past. However, I would like to ask this question that I want to know which of
From: Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org> Subject: Re: [Koha] Linux Flavour - Koha To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 5:17 PM the linux flavour best/stable
Go for Debian. The install is generally the most direct.
-Darrell Ulm
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2009/8/5 Librarian, SAIACS <library@saiacs.org>:
Hello Everyone,
I am sorry, if my question been answered in the past. However, I would like to ask this question that I want to know which of the linux flavour best/stable for koha implementation. I would certainly appreciate your suggestions. Someone said, Debian seems to be best J please advice me. Regards
Mr. Yesan Sellan Chief Librarian South Asia Institute of Advanced Christian Studies, Kothanur PO Bangalore - 560077 INDIA
Alternative Email: yesans@gmail.com
Debian is *the* best. http://www.kohaindia.org/debian-lenny/ -- With Regards Abhishek Amberkar RDG Library Services Mumbai, India http://www.rdg.co.in/ http://www.kohaindia.org/
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Abhishek Amberkar [अभिषेक] -
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Colin Campbell -
Darrell Ulm -
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Eugen Matei -
Indranil Das Gupta -
Joe Atzberger -
Kyle Hall -
Librarian, SAIACS -
Olugbenga Adara -
paul POULAIN -
Suchetha Wijenayake