Order of display of 246 $i and $a fields
Hi! My users have noticed something that's bothered me, but I held off clutching my pearls about it until one of my users complained to me!:) I'm wondering if this might be worth my learning to try to file a bug? The MARC21 Bibliographic Format for subfield i in the 246 field specifies putting a colon at the end of the text in that field, intending the data in that subfield to precede the title data, i.e.: 245 00$aBulletin of atomic scientists. *246* *1#**$i*At head of title:*$a*Science and public affairs*$f*Jan. 1970-Apr. 1974 *246* *1#**$i*Title on container:*$a*New Brunswick royal gazette *246* *1#**$i*Alternate issues published with title:*$a*Chicago daily telegraph But Koha displays the $i data *after* the title in the staff client and the OPAC, e.g. an example from our catalog: https://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=6... Displays: Other title:...Rees on ships [Binder's spine title:]. As an OCLC user, I have to follow MARC21 and OCLC Bibliographic Formats and Standards, which also has these data examples: 245 0 0 Bulletin of atomic scientists. 246 1 ǂi At head of title: ǂa Science and public affairs ǂf January 1970-April 1974 245 0 0 Quartetti per archi. 246 1 ǂi Colophon title: ǂa Smyccove kvartety 246 1 ǂi Panel title: ǂa Welcome to big Wyoming 245 0 4 The Bluegrass album. 246 1 ǂi Volume 3 has title: ǂa California connection So I have to input the colon at the end of data entered into the $i, and then it looks really weird displayed after the $a data in Koha. Would it be worth my trying to (finally!) learn how to file a bug to have the 246 fields display the $i in the correct position, e.g.: Other title: At head of title: Science and public affairs Other title: Colophon title: Smyccove kvartety | Panel title: Welcome to big Wyoming Other title: Binder's spine title: Rees on ships | Known as: Rees's ships (This is very MARC21 & OCLC-centric, but I am completely unfamiliar with UNIMARC.) Thank you! Cheerio, h2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez (she, her, hers) Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center 2 Marina Blvd., Bldg. E, 3rd floor, San Francisco, CA 94123-1284 415-561-7032, heather_hernandez@nps.gov Library catalog: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/
Hi Heather, similar to you this has been bothering me for a while now too. I'd be super happy if you filed a bug for it. All you really need to fill in are: - Choose a good description - Describe the problem (you did so already perfectly) - Set the module - Version: you can pick the one you spotted it in, but I am sure it's in master too :) Save! Some more info on all the fields can be found here: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug_Reporting_Guidelines Let me know if I can help in any way! Katrin On 23.05.19 18:21, Hernandez, Heather wrote:
Hi!
My users have noticed something that's bothered me, but I held off clutching my pearls about it until one of my users complained to me!:) I'm wondering if this might be worth my learning to try to file a bug? The MARC21 Bibliographic Format for subfield i in the 246 field specifies putting a colon at the end of the text in that field, intending the data in that subfield to precede the title data, i.e.: 245 00$aBulletin of atomic scientists. *246* *1#**$i*At head of title:*$a*Science and public affairs*$f*Jan. 1970-Apr. 1974 *246* *1#**$i*Title on container:*$a*New Brunswick royal gazette *246* *1#**$i*Alternate issues published with title:*$a*Chicago daily telegraph But Koha displays the $i data *after* the title in the staff client and the OPAC, e.g. an example from our catalog: https://keys.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=6... Displays: Other title:...Rees on ships [Binder's spine title:].
As an OCLC user, I have to follow MARC21 and OCLC Bibliographic Formats and Standards, which also has these data examples: 245 0 0 Bulletin of atomic scientists. 246 1 ǂi At head of title: ǂa Science and public affairs ǂf January 1970-April 1974 245 0 0 Quartetti per archi. 246 1 ǂi Colophon title: ǂa Smyccove kvartety 246 1 ǂi Panel title: ǂa Welcome to big Wyoming 245 0 4 The Bluegrass album. 246 1 ǂi Volume 3 has title: ǂa California connection
So I have to input the colon at the end of data entered into the $i, and then it looks really weird displayed after the $a data in Koha.
Would it be worth my trying to (finally!) learn how to file a bug to have the 246 fields display the $i in the correct position, e.g.:
Other title: At head of title: Science and public affairs Other title: Colophon title: Smyccove kvartety | Panel title: Welcome to big Wyoming Other title: Binder's spine title: Rees on ships | Known as: Rees's ships
(This is very MARC21 & OCLC-centric, but I am completely unfamiliar with UNIMARC.)
Thank you! Cheerio, h2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez (she, her, hers) Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center 2 Marina Blvd., Bldg. E, 3rd floor, San Francisco, CA 94123-1284 415-561-7032, heather_hernandez@nps.gov Library catalog: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/ _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Hi! Thank you for your encouragement and offer to help, Katrin--I'm going to try to file a bug, then! I will definitely read through the page at the link that you forwarded--that looks very helpful! This will be my first attempt to actually file a bug--I'll put on my pearls!:) More soon! Cheerio! h2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez (she, her, hers) Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center 2 Marina Blvd., Bldg. E, 3rd floor, San Francisco, CA 94123-1284 415-561-7032, heather_hernandez@nps.gov Library catalog: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/
Hi! I filed a bug for this! My shiny, new, cute, adorable, darling bug is here: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23119 I read through the very helpful Bug Reporting Guidelines, and lots of other messages with helpful info that I had saved for that magic day when I filed my first bug report. Katrin, thank you especially for your help! And my thanks to everyone who's contributed to the Bug Reporting Guidelines--very helpful! I chose "minor" for severity, but I'm not confident about that--please, someone correct it if it's wrong. And, please, let me know of any mistakes or corrections so I can learn to be a better bug filer in the future! I will glow a little brighter for having filed a bug, right?!?? And I'm certainly going to raise a pint in celebration of my having summoned all my courage to dip my toes into the waters of bug filing! ::happy dancing:: h2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez (she, her, hers) Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center 2 Marina Blvd., Bldg. E, 3rd floor, San Francisco, CA 94123-1284 415-561-7032, heather_hernandez@nps.gov Library catalog: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/
Congratulations on your first bug submission, it's a slippery slope to your first code submission next 😉. Lovely to have you aboard Heather, Martin On Thu, 13 Jun 2019, 9:46 pm Hernandez, Heather, <heather_hernandez@nps.gov> wrote:
Hi!
I filed a bug for this! My shiny, new, cute, adorable, darling bug is here: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23119
I read through the very helpful Bug Reporting Guidelines, and lots of other messages with helpful info that I had saved for that magic day when I filed my first bug report. Katrin, thank you especially for your help! And my thanks to everyone who's contributed to the Bug Reporting Guidelines--very helpful!
I chose "minor" for severity, but I'm not confident about that--please, someone correct it if it's wrong. And, please, let me know of any mistakes or corrections so I can learn to be a better bug filer in the future!
I will glow a little brighter for having filed a bug, right?!?? And I'm certainly going to raise a pint in celebration of my having summoned all my courage to dip my toes into the waters of bug filing!
::happy dancing:: h2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez (she, her, hers) Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center 2 Marina Blvd., Bldg. E, 3rd floor, San Francisco, CA 94123-1284 415-561-7032, heather_hernandez@nps.gov Library catalog: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/ _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Hi Heather, thx for making me smile :) I hope it will be the first of many! Katrin On 13.06.19 22:45, Hernandez, Heather wrote:
Hi!
I filed a bug for this! My shiny, new, cute, adorable, darling bug is here: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23119
I read through the very helpful Bug Reporting Guidelines, and lots of other messages with helpful info that I had saved for that magic day when I filed my first bug report. Katrin, thank you especially for your help! And my thanks to everyone who's contributed to the Bug Reporting Guidelines--very helpful!
I chose "minor" for severity, but I'm not confident about that--please, someone correct it if it's wrong. And, please, let me know of any mistakes or corrections so I can learn to be a better bug filer in the future!
I will glow a little brighter for having filed a bug, right?!?? And I'm certainly going to raise a pint in celebration of my having summoned all my courage to dip my toes into the waters of bug filing!
::happy dancing:: h2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez (she, her, hers) Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center 2 Marina Blvd., Bldg. E, 3rd floor, San Francisco, CA 94123-1284 415-561-7032, heather_hernandez@nps.gov <mailto:heather_hernandez@nps.gov> Library catalog: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/
Hi! The Koha community always makes me smile!! And it's lovely to think that I might be helping improve things, even through one small thing.
...it's a slippery slope to your first code submission next 😉.
::hee!:: I may have been working on trying to convince my employer to let me learn how to code...and North Coast Brewing's Old Rasputin imperial stout may also be a lovely way to celebrate creating a new bug report! Have a good weekend, all! Cheerio! h2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez (she, her, hers) Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center 2 Marina Blvd., Bldg. E, 3rd floor, San Francisco, CA 94123-1284 415-561-7032, heather_hernandez@nps.gov Library catalog: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/
Heather, I just have one question. Was there any pearl clutching necessary during this adventure? Doug -----Original Message----- From: Koha [mailto:koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Hernandez, Heather Sent: Friday, June 14, 2019 10:04 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] [EXTERNAL] Re: Order of display of 246 $i and $a fields Hi! The Koha community always makes me smile!! And it's lovely to think that I might be helping improve things, even through one small thing.
...it's a slippery slope to your first code submission next 😉.
::hee!:: I may have been working on trying to convince my employer to let me learn how to code...and North Coast Brewing's Old Rasputin imperial stout may also be a lovely way to celebrate creating a new bug report! Have a good weekend, all! Cheerio! h2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez (she, her, hers) Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center 2 Marina Blvd., Bldg. E, 3rd floor, San Francisco, CA 94123-1284 415-561-7032, heather_hernandez@nps.gov Library catalog: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/ _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Was there any pearl clutching necessary during this adventure?
Well, Doug, I have to admit, when I first saw the order of the added title entry displays there was a clutching of pearls--I'm not ashamed to admit that! Not a firm clutching, since all the information *is *displayed, but a clutching nonetheless. When I embarked upon the epic journey that led me to bug creation in those legendary and hallowed halls of Bugzilla, a journey that has, of course, left me forever changed (for the better, I hope--time will tell!), my preparations did include a thorough pearl polishing, clasp inspection and refurbishment, and quite a few mirror checks to be sure the string of pearls was lending optimal accessorizing to my outfit. I'm proud to report that my trusty pearls and I shared this adventure together and, if I may say so myself, they seem to be even more lustrous. I can't recommend venturing forth enough into Bugzilla with whatever jewelry enhances and supports the bug author! Ever with my trusty pearls, h2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heather Hernandez (she, her, hers) Technical Services Librarian San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park Research Center 2 Marina Blvd., Bldg. E, 3rd floor, San Francisco, CA 94123-1284 415-561-7032, heather_hernandez@nps.gov Library catalog: http://keys.bywatersolutions.com/
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