Hello, We have been using various versions of koha for about 2 years. Each time our computer person would put the updated version on the library computer, it has been a good thing...it has made my job easier. That is until this latest version (2.0). I am so confused and frustrated, I'm ready to scrape the whole thing and go back to the good old days of paper and pencil. I am not a librarian, but know the dewey decimal system and how to run a library, in general. I am starting my 6th year as the librarian at a small ( just over 100 students) K-8 school. When I started here, the library was computerized using a system by the Follette Company. It was pretty straight forward and the previous librarian taught me every thing I would need to know (so I thought). All the previous versions of koha had everything our library needed. This new version is giving me way too much information. Is there a version for people who are not really librarians and don't need to set tag fields, etc. ? If not, here is where I am stuck... In PARAMETERS, I went to MARC tag structure. Clicking on MARC tag structure, it took me to the MARC tag structure admin. Across the top of that page it has: Tag Lib Repeatable Mandatory Authorized Value Subfields Edit Delete. What does REPEATABLE and MANDATORY mean? Under Repeatable and Mandatory , for each tag listed it has YES or NO. Are these Repeatable and Mandatory columes pre-set by the koha people? Should I change them or leave them alone? Why the heck am I being put through all this trouble when the last version was filling all the needs of our small library? I loved the way it was set up when I was doing Original Cataloging for a book. It was so easy and fast. I planned to put all the non-fiction books on the koha system computer over the summer and I haven't been able to get anything accomplished. Thanks for letting me rant. If I can get past this Repeatable and Mandatory section, maybe I will be able to figure out the rest of it. Thank you, Suzanne Gilbert IHM School P.S. I used to be on the koha mailing list. I haven't received any messages since early July. I'm not sure if this is the correct e-mail address to which I should send this plea. If not, please forward this message to the proper address.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 03:33:30PM -0500, Suzanne Gilbert said:
Hello,
We have been using various versions of koha for about 2 years. Each time our computer person would put the updated version on the library computer, it has been a good thing...it has made my job easier. That is until this latest version (2.0). I am so confused and frustrated, I'm ready to scrape the whole thing and go back to the good old days of paper and pencil. I am not a librarian, but know the dewey decimal system and how to run a library, in general. I am starting my 6th year as the librarian at a small ( just over 100 students) K-8 school. When I started here, the library was computerized using a system by the Follette Company. It was pretty straight forward and the previous librarian taught me every thing I would need to know (so I thought).
Hiya Suzanne Luckily there is a simple answer :-) Go to Parameters, then System Preferences and turn MARC to off. You will be back to a version of Koha that looks and behaves the same as 1.2.x All be it with some bug fixes. I hope this helps. Chris
Hello,
We have been using various versions of koha for about 2 years. Each time our computer person would put the updated version on the library computer, it has been a good thing...it has made my job easier. That is until this latest version (2.0). I am so confused and frustrated, I'm ready to scrape the whole thing and go back to the good old days of paper and pencil. I am not a librarian, but know the dewey decimal system and how to run a library, in general. I am starting my 6th year as the librarian at a small ( just over 100 students) K-8 school. When I started here, the library was computerized using a system by the Follette Company. It was pretty straight forward and the previous librarian taught me every thing I would need to know (so I thought). All the previous versions of koha had everything our library needed. This new version is giving me way too much information. Is there a version for people who are not really librarians and don't need to set tag fields, etc. ? If not, here is where I am stuck... In PARAMETERS, I went to MARC tag structure. Clicking on MARC tag structure, it took me to the MARC tag structure admin. Across the top of that page it has: Tag Lib Repeatable Mandatory Authorized Value Subfields Edit Delete. What does REPEATABLE and MANDATORY mean? Reaeatable means you want to repeat the same values in other record for
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Suzanne Gilbert wrote: this tags i.e. may be the author of 2 or more books is same. Manadatory means you have to assign the any value to the tag,you never enter the data without filling the manadatory fiels. we need to set manadatory only BARCODE(Acc.No.) other tags you can't tick manadatory. Under Repeatable and Mandatory
, for each tag listed it has YES or NO. Are these Repeatable and Mandatory columes pre-set by the koha people? Should I change them or leave them alone? Why the heck am I being put through all this trouble when the last version was filling all the needs of our small library? I loved the way it was set up when I was doing Original Cataloging for a book. It was so easy and fast. I planned to put all the non-fiction books on the koha system computer over the summer and I haven't been able to get anything accomplished. Thanks for letting me rant. If I can get past this Repeatable and Mandatory section, maybe I will be able to figure out the rest of it.
Thank you,
Suzanne Gilbert IHM School P.S. I used to be on the koha mailing list. I haven't received any messages since early July. I'm not sure if this is the correct e-mail address to which I should send this plea. If not, please forward this message to the proper address. _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- O/Ic Library Guru Nanak Dev Engineering College Ludhiana (Punjab) India
Hi Suzanne
We have been using various versions of koha for about 2 years. Each time our computer person would put the updated version on the library computer, it has been a good thing...it has made my job easier. That is until this latest version (2.0). I am so confused and frustrated, I'm ready to scrape the whole thing and go back to the good old days of paper and pencil.
Oh no, how frustrating for you - I really hope I can help you get back to the kinder simpler Koha that you know and love.
All the previous versions of koha had everything our library
needed. This new version is giving me way too much information. Is there a version for people who are not really librarians and don't need to set tag fields, etc.
YES - We (Katipo) are the "non marc" specialists really - most of our work is with libraries like yourself who don't really need all the detail of MARC, although it's nice to know it's there in the background, it shouldn't need to ruin your life. ? If not, here is where I am stuck... In PARAMETERS, I went to
MARC tag structure. Clicking on MARC tag structure, it took me to the MARC tag structure admin. Across the top of that page it has: Tag Lib Repeatable Mandatory Authorized Value Subfields Edit Delete. What does REPEATABLE and MANDATORY mean?
Oh dear :-)
Why the heck am I being put through all this trouble when the last version was filling all the needs of our small library?
In my gut I don't really think you have to do this - but I'll need to do some testing here. If you just want to continue using Koha like you did before, then it has a "simple" non MARC mode that you should be able to get going and it will pretty much be the same - you certainly won't need to do this :-) I'll have a chat here about how ours is set up - see opac.katipo.co.nz - and If that looks like "you" I'll tell you what all our settings are :-) I loved the way it
was set up when I was doing Original Cataloging for a book. It was so easy and fast. I planned to put all the non-fiction books on the koha system computer over the summer and I haven't been able to get anything accomplished. Thanks for letting me rant. If I can get past this Repeatable and Mandatory section, maybe I will be able to figure out the rest of it.
If you're not wanting to do copy cataloguing you quite possibly don't really need to - so go have a cup of tea (or your choice of something stronger :-), and we'll see what we can do to help
Thank you,
You're welcome - and would you like to be back on the koha mailing list? Cheers Rachel
Suzanne Gilbert IHM School P.S. I used to be on the koha mailing list. I haven't received any messages since early July. I'm not sure if this is the correct e-mail address to which I should send this plea. If not, please forward this message to the proper address. _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- O/Ic Library Guru Nanak Dev Engineering College Ludhiana (Punjab) India
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_____________________________________________________________ Rachel Hamilton-Williams Katipo Communications MANAGING DIRECTOR Ph 021 389 128 or +64 04 934 1285 mailto:rachel@katipo.co.nz PO Box 12487, Wellington http://www.katipo.co.nz New Zealand Koha Open Source Library System http://www.koha.org
Hi everybody, I have another question that if i set some tags after data entry..do i able to modify previous records with new defined tags. and if i delete some tags then do i lost the data entered in that tags in previous records. kanwal
We have been using various versions of koha for about 2 years. Each time our computer person would put the updated version on the library computer, it has been a good thing...it has made my job easier. That is until this latest version (2.0). I am so confused and frustrated, I'm ready to scrape the whole thing and go back to the good old days of paper and pencil.
Oh no, how frustrating for you - I really hope I can help you get back to the kinder simpler Koha that you know and love.
All the previous versions of koha had everything our library
needed. This new version is giving me way too much information. Is there a version for people who are not really librarians and don't need to set tag fields, etc.
YES - We (Katipo) are the "non marc" specialists really - most of our work is with libraries like yourself who don't really need all the detail of MARC, although it's nice to know it's there in the background, it shouldn't need to ruin your life.
? If not, here is where I am stuck... In PARAMETERS, I went to
MARC tag structure. Clicking on MARC tag structure, it took me to the MARC tag structure admin. Across the top of that page it has: Tag Lib Repeatable Mandatory Authorized Value Subfields Edit Delete. What does REPEATABLE and MANDATORY mean?
Oh dear :-)
Why the heck am I being put through all this trouble when the last version was filling all the needs of our small library?
In my gut I don't really think you have to do this - but I'll need to do some testing here. If you just want to continue using Koha like you did before, then it has a "simple" non MARC mode that you should be able to get going and it will pretty much be the same - you certainly won't need to do this :-)
I'll have a chat here about how ours is set up - see opac.katipo.co.nz - and If that looks like "you" I'll tell you what all our settings are :-)
I loved the way it
was set up when I was doing Original Cataloging for a book. It was so easy and fast. I planned to put all the non-fiction books on the koha system computer over the summer and I haven't been able to get anything accomplished. Thanks for letting me rant. If I can get past this Repeatable and Mandatory section, maybe I will be able to figure out the rest of it.
If you're not wanting to do copy cataloguing you quite possibly don't really need to - so go have a cup of tea (or your choice of something stronger :-), and we'll see what we can do to help
Thank you,
You're welcome - and would you like to be back on the koha mailing list?
Cheers Rachel
Suzanne Gilbert IHM School P.S. I used to be on the koha mailing list. I haven't received any messages since early July. I'm not sure if this is the correct e-mail address to which I should send this plea. If not, please forward this message to the proper address. _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- O/Ic Library Guru Nanak Dev Engineering College Ludhiana (Punjab) India
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_____________________________________________________________
Rachel Hamilton-Williams Katipo Communications MANAGING DIRECTOR Ph 021 389 128 or +64 04 934 1285 mailto:rachel@katipo.co.nz PO Box 12487, Wellington http://www.katipo.co.nz New Zealand Koha Open Source Library System http://www.koha.org
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- O/Ic Library Guru Nanak Dev Engineering College Ludhiana (Punjab) India
Library said:
I have another question that if i set some tags after data entry..do i able to modify previous records with new defined tags. and if i delete some tags then do i lost the data entered in that tags in previous records.
The MARC tag structure has nothing to do with what data you have saved on your system. It only controls what data is displayed on your system. So when you change the MARC tag structure, you might see different data. But none of your data has been changed unless you do edit biblio. (In other words, MARC tag structure cannot change your MARC data.) -- Stephen Hedges Skemotah Solutions, USA www.skemotah.com -- shedges@skemotah.com
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