Hello, we'd like to ask the responsible persons to add the following record to the list of support companies. We offer Koha support in the Czech Republic from 2015. We help libraries with the installation and maintenance of this ILS as well as we support growing Czech Koha community and its development effort. Best regards, Radek Šiman Company Name: R-Bit Technology, s.r.o. Contact Person: Radek Šiman Contact email: info@koha.cz Website: http://www.koha.cz Telephone: +420 604 944 755
Hi Radek, it is good practise not to use national top level domains for commercial services related to Koha ILS. If you try other national top level domains, you will find that they are either forwarded to koha-community.org (like koha.no), used for noncommercial Koha user groups, not registered at all or not related to Koha ILS. Using a national top level domain for commercial Koha support implies the status of an "official" Koha support provider for that particular country, but no such thing exists. Please consider using eg. rbit.cz for your commercial services and forwarding koha.cz to koha-community.org or a noncommercial czech user group. Thank you, Mirko -- Mirko Tietgen mirko@abunchofthings.net http://koha.abunchofthings.net http://meinkoha.de Radek Šiman schrieb am 18.03.2016
Hello,
we'd like to ask the responsible persons to add the following record to the list of support companies. We offer Koha support in the Czech Republic from 2015. We help libraries with the installation and maintenance of this ILS as well as we support growing Czech Koha community and its development effort.
Best regards, Radek Šiman
Company Name: R-Bit Technology, s.r.o.
Contact Person: Radek Šiman
Contact email: info@koha.cz
Website: http://www.koha.cz
Telephone: +420 604 944 755
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Hello, Czech Koha comunity use domans http://koha-community.cz <http://koha.community.cz> and http://knihovni-system-koha.cz/ Rbit cooperate with our local community, so we can make some deal about koha.cz domain. I hope so. Take care Mike pá 18. 3. 2016 v 9:24 odesílatel Mirko Tietgen <mirko@abunchofthings.net> napsal:
Hi Radek,
it is good practise not to use national top level domains for commercial services related to Koha ILS.
If you try other national top level domains, you will find that they are either forwarded to koha-community.org (like koha.no), used for noncommercial Koha user groups, not registered at all or not related to Koha ILS.
Using a national top level domain for commercial Koha support implies the status of an "official" Koha support provider for that particular country, but no such thing exists.
Please consider using eg. rbit.cz for your commercial services and forwarding koha.cz to koha-community.org or a noncommercial czech user group.
Thank you,
Mirko
--
Mirko Tietgen mirko@abunchofthings.net http://koha.abunchofthings.net http://meinkoha.de
Radek Šiman schrieb am 18.03.2016
Hello,
we'd like to ask the responsible persons to add the following record to the list of support companies. We offer Koha support in the Czech Republic from 2015. We help libraries with the installation and maintenance of this ILS as well as we support growing Czech Koha community and its development effort.
Best regards, Radek Šiman
Company Name: R-Bit Technology, s.r.o.
Contact Person: Radek Šiman
Contact email: info@koha.cz
Website: http://www.koha.cz
Telephone: +420 604 944 755
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Hi Mirko, I'd like to ask you (and the community as well) whether the top-level domain koha.cz is a blocking condition to be enlisted as a paid provider. If yes, I will surely change it, but I like the simplicity of the domain (of course). I made a research few month ago and found koha.org (ie. LibLime), but decided to support koha-community.org clone. As some Czech libraries can confirm, R-Bit Technology actively participates in open source development of Koha extensions required in our country. So I don't think there could be a real problem, because our web koha.cz explicitly states the disclaimer at the bottom of every page and links to the Czech community as well as the worldwide one. In addition, it's no problem to extend the disclaimer above of something like "We are just a paid provider not an official one". Ragards, Radek Šiman Dne 18.03.16 v 9:23 Mirko Tietgen napsal(a):
Hi Radek,
it is good practise not to use national top level domains for commercial services related to Koha ILS.
If you try other national top level domains, you will find that they are either forwarded to koha-community.org (like koha.no), used for noncommercial Koha user groups, not registered at all or not related to Koha ILS.
Using a national top level domain for commercial Koha support implies the status of an "official" Koha support provider for that particular country, but no such thing exists.
Please consider using eg. rbit.cz for your commercial services and forwarding koha.cz to koha-community.org or a noncommercial czech user group.
Thank you,
Mirko
--
Mirko Tietgen mirko@abunchofthings.net http://koha.abunchofthings.net http://meinkoha.de
Radek Šiman schrieb am 18.03.2016
Hello,
we'd like to ask the responsible persons to add the following record to the list of support companies. We offer Koha support in the Czech Republic from 2015. We help libraries with the installation and maintenance of this ILS as well as we support growing Czech Koha community and its development effort.
Best regards, Radek Šiman
Company Name: R-Bit Technology, s.r.o.
Contact Person: Radek Šiman
Contact email: info@koha.cz
Website: http://www.koha.cz
Telephone: +420 604 944 755
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Hi, 1) Koha-community.org is most certainly *NOT* a clone of Koha.org. LibLime is not a participating member of the Koha community. Long history! 2) Accepted community standards in Koha community includes individual / corporate members (a) not using a Koha.TLD domain (b) not using a Koha-community.TLD and (c) if you own any then the established best practice is to place the said TLD under the common custodianship of HLT. 3) as of now there is no specific (written) rule in Koha's project governance that dictate paid service providers can't use k / k-c TLDs. Such a situation hasn't arisen since k-c.org came together. Everyone so far has played nicely together in following #2 above. However, we can always put it up for vote and adopt such a rule formally as part of our community standard. Btw can you please point us to the URLs on Koha bugzilla that link to patches / commits from R-bit Technology where you have contributed code to the Koha upstream? -idg On Mar 23, 2016 1:27 PM, "Radek Šiman" <radek.siman@centrum.cz> wrote:
Hi Mirko,
I'd like to ask you (and the community as well) whether the top-level domain koha.cz is a blocking condition to be enlisted as a paid provider. If yes, I will surely change it, but I like the simplicity of the domain (of course). I made a research few month ago and found koha.org (ie. LibLime), but decided to support koha-community.org clone. As some Czech libraries can confirm, R-Bit Technology actively participates in open source development of Koha extensions required in our country. So I don't think there could be a real problem, because our web koha.cz explicitly states the disclaimer at the bottom of every page and links to the Czech community as well as the worldwide one. In addition, it's no problem to extend the disclaimer above of something like "We are just a paid provider not an official one".
Ragards, Radek Šiman
Dne 18.03.16 v 9:23 Mirko Tietgen napsal(a):
Hi Radek,
it is good practise not to use national top level domains for commercial services related to Koha ILS.
If you try other national top level domains, you will find that they are either forwarded to koha-community.org (like koha.no), used for noncommercial Koha user groups, not registered at all or not related to Koha ILS.
Using a national top level domain for commercial Koha support implies the status of an "official" Koha support provider for that particular country, but no such thing exists.
Please consider using eg. rbit.cz for your commercial services and forwarding koha.cz to koha-community.org or a noncommercial czech user group.
Thank you,
Mirko
--
Mirko Tietgen mirko@abunchofthings.net http://koha.abunchofthings.net http://meinkoha.de
Radek Šiman schrieb am 18.03.2016
Hello,
we'd like to ask the responsible persons to add the following record to the list of support companies. We offer Koha support in the Czech Republic from 2015. We help libraries with the installation and maintenance of this ILS as well as we support growing Czech Koha community and its development effort.
Best regards, Radek Šiman
Company Name: R-Bit Technology, s.r.o.
Contact Person: Radek Šiman
Contact email: info@koha.cz
Website: http://www.koha.cz
Telephone: +420 604 944 755
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Hi, 1) I know the history. Sorry, I couldn't find a better word than "a clone", but I believe everybody understands the background. 2) No problem with accepted (not written) standards. For the future I'd recommend to write them down, so the next providers have no problem with it. This particular case will be discussed with the Czech community to serve the paid service over accepted website. Would be http://koha.rbit.cz accepted, for instance? 3) R-Bit Technology will surely pay nicely with the rules. To answer the bugzilla question: there are no commits / patches from R-Bit Technology in the official Koha repository yet. But they probably will this year. We have the extensions and issues on github repository. As I mentioned before, although it's koha related open-source code, it applies to the Czech republic only. I think that Josef Moravec or Michal Denar from the czech community can confirm the effort. For instance, there are two SMS drivers written for Koha purposes only, but they are not in CPAN yet. Regards, Radek Šiman Dne 23.03.16 v 9:35 Indranil Das Gupta napsal(a):
Hi,
1) Koha-community.org is most certainly *NOT* a clone of Koha.org. LibLime is not a participating member of the Koha community. Long history!
2) Accepted community standards in Koha community includes individual / corporate members (a) not using a Koha.TLD domain (b) not using a Koha-community.TLD and (c) if you own any then the established best practice is to place the said TLD under the common custodianship of HLT.
3) as of now there is no specific (written) rule in Koha's project governance that dictate paid service providers can't use k / k-c TLDs. Such a situation hasn't arisen since k-c.org came together. Everyone so far has played nicely together in following #2 above. However, we can always put it up for vote and adopt such a rule formally as part of our community standard.
Btw can you please point us to the URLs on Koha bugzilla that link to patches / commits from R-bit Technology where you have contributed code to the Koha upstream?
-idg On Mar 23, 2016 1:27 PM, "Radek Šiman" <radek.siman@centrum.cz> wrote:
Hi Mirko,
I'd like to ask you (and the community as well) whether the top-level domain koha.cz is a blocking condition to be enlisted as a paid provider. If yes, I will surely change it, but I like the simplicity of the domain (of course). I made a research few month ago and found koha.org (ie. LibLime), but decided to support koha-community.org clone. As some Czech libraries can confirm, R-Bit Technology actively participates in open source development of Koha extensions required in our country. So I don't think there could be a real problem, because our web koha.cz explicitly states the disclaimer at the bottom of every page and links to the Czech community as well as the worldwide one. In addition, it's no problem to extend the disclaimer above of something like "We are just a paid provider not an official one".
Ragards, Radek Šiman
Dne 18.03.16 v 9:23 Mirko Tietgen napsal(a):
Hi Radek,
it is good practise not to use national top level domains for commercial services related to Koha ILS.
If you try other national top level domains, you will find that they are either forwarded to koha-community.org (like koha.no), used for noncommercial Koha user groups, not registered at all or not related to Koha ILS.
Using a national top level domain for commercial Koha support implies the status of an "official" Koha support provider for that particular country, but no such thing exists.
Please consider using eg. rbit.cz for your commercial services and forwarding koha.cz to koha-community.org or a noncommercial czech user group.
Thank you,
Mirko
--
Mirko Tietgen mirko@abunchofthings.net http://koha.abunchofthings.net http://meinkoha.de
Radek Šiman schrieb am 18.03.2016
Hello,
we'd like to ask the responsible persons to add the following record to the list of support companies. We offer Koha support in the Czech Republic from 2015. We help libraries with the installation and maintenance of this ILS as well as we support growing Czech Koha community and its development effort.
Best regards, Radek Šiman
Company Name: R-Bit Technology, s.r.o.
Contact Person: Radek Šiman
Contact email: info@koha.cz
Website: http://www.koha.cz
Telephone: +420 604 944 755
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Hi, Hi Radek,
1) I know the history. Sorry, I couldn't find a better word than "a clone", but I believe everybody understands the background. Not everybody, probably, otherwise no-one would talk of koha.org anymore :\ 2) No problem with accepted (not written) standards. For the future I'd recommend to write them down, so the next providers have no problem with it. This particular case will be discussed with the Czech community to serve the paid service over accepted website. Would be http://koha.rbit.cz accepted, for instance? Yes, koha.rbit.cz is OK. The idea is not to let any doubt about koha != my company. 3) R-Bit Technology will surely pay nicely with the rules. +1 To answer the bugzilla question: there are no commits / patches from R-Bit Technology in the official Koha repository yet. But they probably will this year. We have the extensions and issues on github repository. As I mentioned before, although it's koha related open-source code, it applies to the Czech republic only. I think that Josef Moravec or Michal Denar from the czech community can confirm the effort. For instance, there are two SMS drivers written for Koha purposes only, but they are not in CPAN yet. It's fair to have local related thing. and it's better to OpenSource
Le 23/03/2016 10:18, Radek Šiman a écrit : them, even if you don't submit them for being included in the official version. We have some french specific as well. KOHACON invitation: have you seen that the KohaCon16 will take place in Thessaloniki ? Do you plan to come ? I really hope so, that will be a pleasure to meet you, we could discuss many many things ;-) -- Paul Poulain, Associé-gérant / co-owner BibLibre, Services en logiciels libres pour les bibliothèques BibLibre, Open Source software and services for libraries
Hello, from now on the original domain koha.cz permanently redirects to the Czech koha community website. Instead, I registered a brand new domain name koha-v-knihovne.cz (can be read as "koha in library"). I believe it's acceptable now for offering a service to the Czech libraries, but it still does not imply any confusion with an "official" support. Thanks in advance for processing this request Radek Šiman ---- Updated registration data follows: Company Name: R-Bit Technology, s.r.o. Contact Person: Radek Šiman Contact email: info@koha-v-knihovne.cz Website: http://www.koha-v-knihovne.cz Telephone: +420 604 944 755 Dne 23.03.16 v 10:18 Radek Šiman napsal(a):
Hi,
1) I know the history. Sorry, I couldn't find a better word than "a clone", but I believe everybody understands the background.
2) No problem with accepted (not written) standards. For the future I'd recommend to write them down, so the next providers have no problem with it. This particular case will be discussed with the Czech community to serve the paid service over accepted website. Would be http://koha.rbit.cz accepted, for instance?
3) R-Bit Technology will surely pay nicely with the rules.
To answer the bugzilla question: there are no commits / patches from R-Bit Technology in the official Koha repository yet. But they probably will this year. We have the extensions and issues on github repository. As I mentioned before, although it's koha related open-source code, it applies to the Czech republic only. I think that Josef Moravec or Michal Denar from the czech community can confirm the effort. For instance, there are two SMS drivers written for Koha purposes only, but they are not in CPAN yet.
Regards, Radek Šiman
Dne 23.03.16 v 9:35 Indranil Das Gupta napsal(a):
Hi,
1) Koha-community.org is most certainly *NOT* a clone of Koha.org. LibLime is not a participating member of the Koha community. Long history!
2) Accepted community standards in Koha community includes individual / corporate members (a) not using a Koha.TLD domain (b) not using a Koha-community.TLD and (c) if you own any then the established best practice is to place the said TLD under the common custodianship of HLT.
3) as of now there is no specific (written) rule in Koha's project governance that dictate paid service providers can't use k / k-c TLDs. Such a situation hasn't arisen since k-c.org came together. Everyone so far has played nicely together in following #2 above. However, we can always put it up for vote and adopt such a rule formally as part of our community standard.
Btw can you please point us to the URLs on Koha bugzilla that link to patches / commits from R-bit Technology where you have contributed code to the Koha upstream?
-idg On Mar 23, 2016 1:27 PM, "Radek Šiman" <radek.siman@centrum.cz> wrote:
Hi Mirko,
I'd like to ask you (and the community as well) whether the top-level domain koha.cz is a blocking condition to be enlisted as a paid provider. If yes, I will surely change it, but I like the simplicity of the domain (of course). I made a research few month ago and found koha.org (ie. LibLime), but decided to support koha-community.org clone. As some Czech libraries can confirm, R-Bit Technology actively participates in open source development of Koha extensions required in our country. So I don't think there could be a real problem, because our web koha.cz explicitly states the disclaimer at the bottom of every page and links to the Czech community as well as the worldwide one. In addition, it's no problem to extend the disclaimer above of something like "We are just a paid provider not an official one".
Ragards, Radek Šiman
Dne 18.03.16 v 9:23 Mirko Tietgen napsal(a):
Hi Radek,
it is good practise not to use national top level domains for commercial services related to Koha ILS.
If you try other national top level domains, you will find that they are either forwarded to koha-community.org (like koha.no), used for noncommercial Koha user groups, not registered at all or not related to Koha ILS.
Using a national top level domain for commercial Koha support implies the status of an "official" Koha support provider for that particular country, but no such thing exists.
Please consider using eg. rbit.cz for your commercial services and forwarding koha.cz to koha-community.org or a noncommercial czech user group.
Thank you,
Mirko
--
Mirko Tietgen mirko@abunchofthings.net http://koha.abunchofthings.net http://meinkoha.de
Radek Šiman schrieb am 18.03.2016
Hello,
we'd like to ask the responsible persons to add the following record to the list of support companies. We offer Koha support in the Czech Republic from 2015. We help libraries with the installation and maintenance of this ILS as well as we support growing Czech Koha community and its development effort.
Best regards, Radek Šiman
Company Name: R-Bit Technology, s.r.o.
Contact Person: Radek Šiman
Contact email: info@koha.cz
Website: http://www.koha.cz
Telephone: +420 604 944 755
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
_______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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Paul Poulain -
Radek Šiman