Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names
Hi, On-list: maybe it helps somebody else. E.g.: in MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl you should remove after <xsl:when test="@tag=100 or @tag=110 or @tag=111"> these two tags: <xsl:call-template name="chopPunctuation"> and <xsl:with-param name="chopString"> (with its closing tags). Lines 1631 and 1632 (Koha 23.05) Regards, Alejo El lun, 4 sept 2023 a la(s) 10:34, Bruns, Anke (Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de) escribió:
Off-list: Hi and thanks, Alejo Janin!
I tried to remove the tag from the subfield, but unfortunately then the title information disappears completely. Perhaps I haven't found the correct place where to remove the tag. Or I removed the wrong closing tag - but I double-checked.
Could you enlighten me as to which chopPunctuation-Tag is the correct one to remove?
I tried
Regards, Anke
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> Im Auftrag von Alejo Janin Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 14:32 Cc: koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Betreff: Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names
Hi,
You should remove the <xsl:call-template name="chopPunctuation"> for those subfields from the xslt templates.
El lun, 4 sept 2023 a la(s) 09:22, Bruns, Anke (Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de) escribió:
Hi Himanshu,
thanks for the quick reply.
However, this wouldn't solve the specific problem we encountered, as the dot is already present in the MARC data and is only suppressed in the display.
Best regards,
Anke
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Himanshu Aggarwal <rtr.himanshu@gmail.com> Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 13:16 An: Bruns, Anke <Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de> Cc: koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Betreff: Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names
I do the editing manually with every data imported using z39.50
On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 4:25 PM Bruns, Anke <Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de> > wrote:
Hi everybody,
a library pointed me to a problem with the display of abbreviated personal first names in 100 and 700 (and possibly others). The final dot in these fields is chopped in the results' list and detailed record view (OPAC and Staff Interface).
Thus, a name like Kuthy, A. reads Kuthy, A and Riemann, K.-U. becomes Riemann, K.-U and Lau, Y.Y. appears as Lau, Y.Y
(I omitted the full stop in the previous sentence to avoid confusion.)
Whereas it probably makes sense to chop the final punctuation in some cases in the display of personal names fields, the dot should be displayed for abbreviated first names.
Have you a hint for me how best to make these dots visible in the results' list and record view?
Should we add a CSS directive in OPACUserCSS and StaffUserCSS? Or better add/change the passages for the relevant fields in the xsl files? Or something else?
Thanks in advance!
Regards, Anke
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Hi Alejo, thank you very much! This was very helpful, and we could set the display settings for results' lists and detailed views in both OPAC and staff interface. In the staff interface's results' list, however there appears to always be a dot at the end of the line containing the contributor names. Thus, if the last entry in this line is a personal name with an abbreviated initial, there are now two dots: Hoffmann, R.K.. This doesn't appear in the OPAC where the display is correct (Hoffmann, R.K. with one dot only, even at end of line). This seems a rather minor issue as it concerns only the staff interface and not the OPAC. Regards, Anke
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Alejo Janin <alejojanin@gmail.com> Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 16:04 An: Bruns, Anke <Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de>; koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Betreff: Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names
Hi,
On-list: maybe it helps somebody else.
E.g.: in MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl you should remove after <xsl:when test="@tag=100 or @tag=110 or @tag=111"> these two tags: <xsl:call-template name="chopPunctuation"> and <xsl:with-param name="chopString"> (with its closing tags). Lines 1631 and 1632 (Koha 23.05)
Regards, Alejo
El lun, 4 sept 2023 a la(s) 10:34, Bruns, Anke (Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de> ) escribió:
Off-list: Hi and thanks, Alejo Janin!
I tried to remove the tag from the subfield, but unfortunately then the title information disappears completely. Perhaps I haven't found the correct place where to remove the tag. Or I removed the wrong closing tag - but I double-checked.
Could you enlighten me as to which chopPunctuation-Tag is the correct one to remove?
I tried
Regards, Anke
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:koha- bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> > Im Auftrag von Alejo Janin Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 14:32 Cc: koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> > Betreff: Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names
Hi,
You should remove the <xsl:call-template name="chopPunctuation"> for those subfields from the xslt templates.
El lun, 4 sept 2023 a la(s) 09:22, Bruns, Anke (Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de> ) escribió:
Hi Himanshu,
thanks for the quick reply.
However, this wouldn't solve the specific problem we encountered, as the dot is already present in the MARC data and is only suppressed in the display.
Best regards,
Anke
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Himanshu Aggarwal <rtr.himanshu@gmail.com <mailto:rtr.himanshu@gmail.com> > Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 13:16 An: Bruns, Anke <Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de> > Cc: koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> > Betreff: Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names
I do the editing manually with every data imported using z39.50
On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 4:25 PM Bruns, Anke <Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de> <mailto:Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de> > > wrote:
Hi everybody,
a library pointed me to a problem with the display of abbreviated personal first names in 100 and 700 (and possibly others). The final dot in these fields is chopped in the results' list and detailed record view (OPAC and Staff Interface).
Thus, a name like Kuthy, A. reads Kuthy, A and Riemann, K.-U. becomes Riemann, K.-U and Lau, Y.Y. appears as Lau, Y.Y
(I omitted the full stop in the previous sentence to avoid confusion.)
Whereas it probably makes sense to chop the final punctuation in some cases in the display of personal names fields, the dot should be displayed for abbreviated first names.
Have you a hint for me how best to make these dots visible in the results' list and record view?
Should we add a CSS directive in OPACUserCSS and StaffUserCSS? Or better add/change the passages for the relevant fields in the xsl files? Or something else?
Thanks in advance!
Regards, Anke
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Hi, I guess that the line 476 is generating the final dot: <xsl:when
test="position()=last()"><xsl:text>.</xsl:text></xsl:when><xsl:otherwise><span class="separator"><xsl:text> | </xsl:text></span></xsl:otherwise>
The easiest way (but not recommended) is to remove that dot inside xsl:text tags. Otherwise you should do something like this: <xsl:when test="not(position()=last())"><span class="separator"><xsl:text>
| </xsl:text></span></xsl:when>
Here you can check the XSLT syntax: https://www.w3.org/TR/2001/WD-xslt11-20010824/ Regards, Alejo El mié, 6 sept 2023 a la(s) 09:40, Bruns, Anke (Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de) escribió:
Hi Alejo,
thank you very much! This was very helpful, and we could set the display settings for results' lists and detailed views in both OPAC and staff interface.
In the staff interface's results' list, however there appears to always be a dot at the end of the line containing the contributor names. Thus, if the last entry in this line is a personal name with an abbreviated initial, there are now two dots: Hoffmann, R.K..
This doesn't appear in the OPAC where the display is correct (Hoffmann, R.K. with one dot only, even at end of line).
This seems a rather minor issue as it concerns only the staff interface and not the OPAC.
Regards, Anke
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Alejo Janin <alejojanin@gmail.com> Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 16:04 An: Bruns, Anke <Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de>; koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Betreff: Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names
Hi,
On-list: maybe it helps somebody else.
E.g.: in MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl you should remove after <xsl:when test="@tag=100 or @tag=110 or @tag=111"> these two tags: <xsl:call-template name="chopPunctuation"> and <xsl:with-param name="chopString"> (with its closing tags). Lines 1631 and 1632 (Koha 23.05)
Regards, Alejo
El lun, 4 sept 2023 a la(s) 10:34, Bruns, Anke (Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de> ) escribió:
Off-list: Hi and thanks, Alejo Janin!
I tried to remove the tag from the subfield, but unfortunately then the title information disappears completely. Perhaps I haven't found the correct place where to remove the tag. Or I removed the wrong closing tag - but I double-checked.
Could you enlighten me as to which chopPunctuation-Tag is the correct one to remove?
I tried
Regards, Anke
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:koha- bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> > Im Auftrag von Alejo Janin > Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 14:32 > Cc: koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> > > Betreff: Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names > > Hi, > > You should remove the <xsl:call-template name="chopPunctuation"> for > those > subfields from the xslt templates. > > El lun, 4 sept 2023 a la(s) 09:22, Bruns, Anke ( Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de> ) > escribió: > > > Hi Himanshu, > > > > thanks for the quick reply. > > > > However, this wouldn't solve the specific problem we encountered, as the > > dot is already present in the MARC data and is only suppressed in the > > display. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Anke > > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: Himanshu Aggarwal <rtr.himanshu@gmail.com <mailto:rtr.himanshu@gmail.com> > > > > Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 13:16 > > > An: Bruns, Anke <Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de> > > > > Cc: koha <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> > > > > Betreff: Re: [Koha] Punctuation in personal names > > > > > > I do the editing manually with every data imported using z39.50 > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 4:25 PM Bruns, Anke <Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de> > > > <mailto:Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns@gwdg.de> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > a library pointed me to a problem with the display of abbreviated > > > personal > > > first names in 100 and 700 (and possibly others). The final dot in > > > these > > > fields is chopped in the results' list and detailed record view > > (OPAC > > > and > > > Staff Interface). > > > > > > Thus, a name like Kuthy, A. reads Kuthy, A and Riemann, K.-U. > > > becomes > > > Riemann, K.-U and Lau, Y.Y. appears as Lau, Y.Y > > > > > > (I omitted the full stop in the previous sentence to avoid > > confusion.) > > > > > > Whereas it probably makes sense to chop the final punctuation in > > > some cases > > > in the display of personal names fields, the dot should be > > displayed > > > for > > > abbreviated first names. > > > > > > Have you a hint for me how best to make these dots visible in the > > > results' > > > list and record view? > > > > > > Should we add a CSS directive in OPACUserCSS and StaffUserCSS? > > > Or better add/change the passages for the relevant fields in the > > xsl > > > files? > > > Or something else? > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Anke > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Anke Bruns M.A. (LIS) > > > Arbeitsgruppe "Anwendungs- und Informationssysteme" > > > E-Mail: anke.bruns@gwdg.de <mailto:anke.bruns@gwdg.de> <mailto:anke.bruns@gwdg.de <mailto:anke.bruns@gwdg.de> > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > Gesellschaft für wissenschaftliche Datenverarbeitung mbH Göttingen > > > (GWDG) > > > Burckhardtweg 4, 37077 Göttingen, URL: https://gwdg.de > > > > > > Support: Tel.: +49 551 39-30000, URL: https://gwdg.de/support > > > Sekretariat: Tel.: +49 551 39-30001, E-Mail: gwdg@gwdg.de <mailto:gwdg@gwdg.de> > > > <mailto:gwdg@gwdg.de <mailto:gwdg@gwdg.de> > > > > > > > Geschäftsführer: Prof. Dr. Ramin Yahyapour > > > Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Prof. Dr. Christian Griesinger > > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Göttingen > > > Registergericht: Göttingen, Handelsregister-Nr. B 598 > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > Zertifiziert nach ISO 9001 und ISO 27001 > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org > > > Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto: Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> <mailto:Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Assistant Librarian, > > > > > > Confucius Institute Scholar 13-14, > > > > > > R.D. National College, > > > > > > Bandra (W.) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org > > Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha > > > _______________________________________________ > > Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org > Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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