Hi, I must have missed that. That's a bummer, because I check that site whenever I'm cataloging and in 90% of the cases they already have the book I'm working on at that moment. It would have been easier to import the MARC records instead of copy/pasting lines one by one into the fields. Now I have to check if the British Library has the same disclaimer, because I requester a password to access their servers! Best regards Aida Đikić -----Original Message----- From: Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer.83@web.de> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2023 6:02 PM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Adding Z39.50 servers Hi, Koha can only import MARC records from Z39.50 and they should match your Koha's MARC flavor (UNIMARC or MARC21). The website you linked says: XML and SUTRS are supported. There are no plans to deliver MARC records as part of the Library Hub Discover service. The XML records conform to the MODS Schema <http://www.loc.gov/standards/mods/>. So it might not be possible to use this as a target. Hope this helps Katrin On 10.03.23 16:24, library@ssst.edu.ba wrote:

Hi all,

I'm currently reading up on using Z39.50 servers, and looking up prior messages in the archives. I added (presumably correctly) the Jisc Library Hub server using the data given athttps://discover.libraryhub.jisc.ac.uk/support/api/#z3950 and even though I can see there is a catalog entry for the book "Computer architecture : a quantitative approach", ISBN 9780123838728, the only thing that comes up when I try adding it using New from Z39.50/SRU is the following message:

You searched for: ISBN: 9780123838728

LIBRARY OF CONGRESS record 1: 239 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 1: 238 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 2: 238 Nothing found.

When I look it up by title, I get

You searched for: Title: Computer architecture : a quantitative approach

DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 1: 238 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 2: 238 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 3: 238 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 4: 238 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 5: 238 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 6: 238 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 7: 238 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 8: 238 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 9: 238 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 10: 238 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 11: 238 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 12: 238 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 13: 238 DISCOVER.LIBRARYHUB.JISC.AC.UK record 14: 238

plus the option to import one of 7 records from the National Library of France. Neither of them is the correct edition (I have the 5th ed.). I'm not sure why this is happening, and what I need to do to import the record as it exists on discover.libraryhub.jisc.ac.uk. Have any of you come accross something like this?

Best regards

Aida Đikić Librarian

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Hello René, Thank you again for taking the time to explain - I had to work out how to accomplish some things in Linux terminal since until this year I had no experience with it and it took me quite some time to understand how some things worked. To cut the long story short, I got the marc21xml2unimarc.xsl file to download to the server set aside for me by out IT manager, and then added the full path to the Z39.50 settings for LOC. I'm waiting for the password for BL so I can test it for that source. Before I actually do any imports, I will have to go through my framework and edit out the tags I won't need, but that's a topic for another post. Best regards Aida Đikić -----Original Message----- From: René Seindal <rene@seindal.dk> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 11:50 AM To: library@ssst.edu.ba Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Adding Z39.50 servers On 2023-03-13 09:03, library@ssst.edu.ba wrote:

Hi,

I must have missed that. That's a bummer, because I check that site whenever I'm cataloging and in 90% of the cases they already have the book I'm working on at that moment. It would have been easier to import the MARC records instead of copy/pasting lines one by one into the fields. Now I have to check if the British Library has the same disclaimer, because I requester a password to access their servers!

Hi Aida Đikić It can be done. I have an old blog where I keep notes and things, and I wrote it down: https://rene.seindal.dk/2023/02/23/koha-library-software/ Here's the relevant section, but the links didn't come over with copy-paste. MARC flavours There are several flavours of MARC records. The major ones are MARK21 (or USMARC) and UNIMARC, but in Europe most countries seem to use some locally modified format of one or the other. We’re in Italy, so I configured our Koha instance to use UNIMARC. The problem with LoC and BL is, I discoved after a while, one of different MARC flavours. Our instance uses UNIMARC while LoC and BL use MARC21. Koha doesn’t convert from one format to the other when you import a record. Koha does ask you when you configure a Z39.50 server, which format the server uses, but it still doesn’t convert the data. This took me a while. MARC records are not XML, but in the X39.50 server configuration there was a fields for custom XSLT files. Maybe Koha worked internally with MARCXML which is an XML representation of a MARC record? Apparently lots of libraries use a program called MarcEdit to do this conversion between MARC flavours. It is written by a Terry Reese, and lo and behold if he didn’t have such “MARC21 to UNIMARC” XSLT files on Github. I downloaded his marc21xml2unimarc.xsl file, copied it to my VPS, entered the pathname in the Z39.50 server configuration, and suddenly my imports from LoC and BL worked perfectly. -- René Seindal