Fwd: Request to mailing list LibLime-Users rejected
Hello, all. I have been following the discourse about LibLime on here with interest, as we will be searching a vendor for our selected system (which is Koha, of course). However, I had read little from those who actually use LibLime as a vendor. Since there are so many out there I assumed I was missing something. On a recent visit to a library consortium in Texas that uses LibLime, the director of that system told me about a LibLime listserv. Figuring I might receive different information from that list (and thus allowing me to pass on pros and cons to our director, instead of just cons), I attempted to sign on to the list, only to receive the the below rejection notice. So much for "open source". Why the secretive approach if the system is not proprietary? But, I'm still seeking information on PTFS/LibLime. So, if there are any customers of this vendor lurking out there, I would love to hear from you, either pro or con. You may email me off list if you are more comfortable with that. My email is storypage [at] gmail.com. Thanks in advance, --Jim Maroon ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <liblime-users-bounces@lists.liblime.com> Date: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:45 PM Subject: Request to mailing list LibLime-Users rejected To: storypage@gmail.com Your request to the LibLime-Users mailing list Subscription request has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the following reason for rejecting your request: "We appreciate your interest - but this list is a private list for customers of LibLime - if you are interested in our services - please let us know http://www.liblime.com/contact" Any questions or comments should be directed to the list administrator at: liblime-users-owner@lists.liblime.com -- ================================================== "The man, who, by his own and his family's labour, can provide a sufficiency of food and raiment and a comfortable dwelling place, is not a poor man."--William Cobbett, *Cottage Economy*, 1826.
As mentioned in the listserv message, that list is for LibLime customers only. It is not an attempt to be secretive or proprietary, it’s just the best method for us to communicate with our customers and for them to communicate with each other. LibLime staff and customers regularly participate on the Koha listservs, including postings as recently as this week. You may not recognize the names as being LibLime customers, but they are present and participating. As is well known by now, there are differences between the software used on our client systems and the current development head of Koha. We have submitted many features (others are awaiting sponsor approval) and continue to work towards and hope for full integration between the code lines. We would be happy to talk to you directly about your needs, or put you in touch with some of our customers if you want. Jane Wagner Senior Project Manager LibLime, a division of PTFS Content Management and Library Solutions 6400 Goldsboro Road, Suite 200 Bethesda, MD 20817 (301) 654-8088 x 151 jwagner@liblime.com <jwagner@ptfs.com> *From:* koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] *On Behalf Of *Buster *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:23 AM *To:* Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz *Subject:* [Koha] Fwd: Request to mailing list LibLime-Users rejected Hello, all. I have been following the discourse about LibLime on here with interest, as we will be searching a vendor for our selected system (which is Koha, of course). However, I had read little from those who actually use LibLime as a vendor. Since there are so many out there I assumed I was missing something. On a recent visit to a library consortium in Texas that uses LibLime, the director of that system told me about a LibLime listserv. Figuring I might receive different information from that list (and thus allowing me to pass on pros and cons to our director, instead of just cons), I attempted to sign on to the list, only to receive the the below rejection notice. So much for "open source". Why the secretive approach if the system is not proprietary? But, I'm still seeking information on PTFS/LibLime. So, if there are any customers of this vendor lurking out there, I would love to hear from you, either pro or con. You may email me off list if you are more comfortable with that. My email is storypage [at] gmail.com. Thanks in advance, --Jim Maroon ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <liblime-users-bounces@lists.liblime.com> Date: Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:45 PM Subject: Request to mailing list LibLime-Users rejected To: storypage@gmail.com Your request to the LibLime-Users mailing list Subscription request has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the following reason for rejecting your request: "We appreciate your interest - but this list is a private list for customers of LibLime - if you are interested in our services - please let us know http://www.liblime.com/contact" Any questions or comments should be directed to the list administrator at: liblime-users-owner@lists.liblime.com -- ================================================== "The man, who, by his own and his family's labour, can provide a sufficiency of food and raiment and a comfortable dwelling place, is not a poor man."--William Cobbett, *Cottage Economy*, 1826.
Buster wrote:
On a recent visit to a library consortium in Texas that uses LibLime, the director of that system told me about a LibLime listserv. Figuring I might receive different information from that list (and thus allowing me to pass on pros and cons to our director, instead of just cons), I attempted to sign on to the list, only to receive the the below rejection notice. So much for "open source". Why the secretive approach if the system is not proprietary?
I agree that PTFS appears to have a strange approach that looks like coralling their users into a private discussion space. In some ways that's good, because it means users of the LL-specific forks aren't confusing everyone on the community lists, but I guess it has more drawbacks for potential users. The co-op has an email list for co-op-specific announcements which I feel wouldn't be appropriate here (upgrades, service notices, special offers and so on), but I'll subscribe potential users on request. Like most support companies I think, we encourage our users to participate in the main koha-community discussions. One of our clients started the smaller UK-specific LIS-KOHA email list at jiscmail but I think it's still vendor-neutral and open to all. Regards, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. http://koha-community.org supporter, web and LMS developer, statistician. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire for Koha work http://www.software.coop/products/koha
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