Re: [Koha] Links shelving locations to maps
See please.... Creative Commons Licence // Maps v3.1.1 (823.1) // University of Hartford Libraries // // (c) 2012, Written by Brandon J C Fuller (except where noted) // Licenced under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License -- http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ // Documentation available at http://libill.hartford.edu/koha/maps And... // FaceLift v1.1.1 (823.2) // University of Hartford Libraries // (c) 2012, Written by Brandon J C Fuller // Licenced under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License -- http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ // Documentation available at http://libill.hartford.edu/koha/facelift // ABOUT: // The purpose of this file is to make stylistic, semantic, and utility changes to the OPAC which are // unattainable through CSS or preferences. It is implemented with a script tag in the // opacuserjs preference. Individual features can be turned on or off with the settings below. And.... // Univeristy of Hartford Libraries // (c) 2012, Written by Brandon J C Fuller (except where noted) // Licenced under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License -- http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ // Documentation available at http://libill.hartford.edu/koha/mobile // ************ BETA In Development ****************
Hi, On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Adalid Ortiz <adalid@tij.uia.mx> wrote:
See please.... Creative Commons Licence
// Maps v3.1.1 (823.1) // University of Hartford Libraries // // (c) 2012, Written by Brandon J C Fuller (except where noted) // Licenced under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License -- http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ // Documentation available at http://libill.hartford.edu/koha/maps
The fact that code is licensed under a CC license is not sufficient, as with the exception of the CC0, no current CC license is compatible with the GPL -- and anything licensed under a CC-NC license is *definitely* not compatible. In order for this code to be distributed with Koha, whoever holds copyright to it, whether it is Brandon Fuller, the University of Hartford, or some other entity, would have to license it under the GPL or order a license that is compatible with the GPL. Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Director of Implementation Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts email: gmc@esilibrary.com direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366 skype: gmcharlt web: http://www.esilibrary.com/ Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org & http://evergreen-ils.org
On 6 December 2012 13:48, Galen Charlton <gmc@esilibrary.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Adalid Ortiz <adalid@tij.uia.mx> wrote:
See please.... Creative Commons Licence
// Maps v3.1.1 (823.1) // University of Hartford Libraries // // (c) 2012, Written by Brandon J C Fuller (except where noted) // Licenced under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License -- http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ // Documentation available at http://libill.hartford.edu/koha/maps
The fact that code is licensed under a CC license is not sufficient, as with the exception of the CC0, no current CC license is compatible with the GPL -- and anything licensed under a CC-NC license is *definitely* not compatible. In order for this code to be distributed with Koha, whoever holds copyright to it, whether it is Brandon Fuller, the University of Hartford, or some other entity, would have to license it under the GPL or order a license that is compatible with the GPL.
Further to that, any license with NC clause is at odds the freedom to use the software as you see fit. Which is Freedom 0, of the 4 software freedoms The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0). It also violates clause 5 of the Open Source Definition http://opensource.org/osd-annotated Eric Raymond comments "Note that licenses that allow only noncommercial use do not qualify as open-source licenses, even if they are based on GPL or some other standard license. Such licenses discriminate against particular occupations, persons, and groups, a practice which the OSD's Clause 5 explicitly forbids." Chris
On 2012-12-6, at 1:48 PM, Galen Charlton wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Adalid Ortiz <adalid@tij.uia.mx> wrote: See please.... Creative Commons Licence
// Maps v3.1.1 (823.1) // University of Hartford Libraries // // (c) 2012, Written by Brandon J C Fuller (except where noted) // Licenced under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License -- http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ // Documentation available at http://libill.hartford.edu/koha/maps
The fact that code is licensed under a CC license is not sufficient, as with the exception of the CC0, no current CC license is compatible with the GPL -- and anything licensed under a CC-NC license is *definitely* not compatible. In order for this code to be distributed with Koha, whoever holds copyright to it, whether it is Brandon Fuller, the University of Hartford, or some other entity, would have to license it under the GPL or order a license that is compatible with the GPL.
Regards,
Galen
awesome, thanks for that info guys lets hope Hartford/WALDO start thinking about adding a GPL compatible license to their Koha code, so the Koha project can use it
Galen Charlton <gmc@esilibrary.com>
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Adalid Ortiz <adalid@tij.uia.mx> wrote:
// Maps v3.1.1 (823.1) // University of Hartford Libraries // // (c) 2012, Written by Brandon J C Fuller (except where noted) // Licenced under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License -- http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ // Documentation available at http://libill.hartford.edu/koha/maps
The fact that code is licensed under a CC license is not sufficient, as with the exception of the CC0, no current CC license is compatible with the GPL [...]
Besides integration, is it even distributable at the moment? CC-NC is not compatible with the GPL and I suggest that their development is derived from Koha (referencing classes and structures from it), so should be GPL too. Anyone know them well enough to drop them a short email asking them to change the licence, or shall I go in cold? Thanks, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/
So, what we're looking at here is a WALDO library, which is running one of the LibLime forks. The various features they're offering (Maps, Facelift and Mobile) are all Javascript libraries that can be dropped into the OPAC system preferences. The most integration they do is to reference the templates, but those have diverged from Koha as LL has followed it's own development path. Dropping these scripts into your Koha install is entirely up to you (though the NC aspect of the CC license may prevent you from doing so at your library; ask your lawyer), but they very likely will not work well, if at all. Anyone willing to try that experiment? MJ brings up a good point; the work done by LL for their fork is legally proprietary because they do not distribute it to other servers. But since this Javascript work by Univ. of Hartford builds on LL's work, and *is* distributed, what does that imply? Does Univ. of Hartford need LL's permission to distribute this code? Does distributing it mean that the code it's based on (LL's fork) needs to be distributed, as well (and thus made open)? I don't think the GPL has a 'backwards' clause, but I'm no legal scholar. I think some of the confusion may be that this work is intended for other WALDO libraries running the same LibLime fork, but it's being broadcast as working for Koha. The two are very different pieces of software (even Marshall Breeding is now classifying them differently in lib-web-cats), but certain interest groups are eternally trying to muddy the waters. Could we do a similar implementation for Koha? Sure! And it would be released GPL, so it's be compatible for reuse anywhere. We just need to find someone to do it (probably not me). -Ian On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:45 AM, MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Adalid Ortiz <adalid@tij.uia.mx> wrote:
// Maps v3.1.1 (823.1) // University of Hartford Libraries // // (c) 2012, Written by Brandon J C Fuller (except where noted) // Licenced under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License -- http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ // Documentation available at http://libill.hartford.edu/koha/maps
The fact that code is licensed under a CC license is not sufficient, as with the exception of the CC0, no current CC license is compatible with
Galen Charlton <gmc@esilibrary.com> the
GPL [...]
Besides integration, is it even distributable at the moment? CC-NC is not compatible with the GPL and I suggest that their development is derived from Koha (referencing classes and structures from it), so should be GPL too.
Anyone know them well enough to drop them a short email asking them to change the licence, or shall I go in cold?
Thanks, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/ _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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