Re: [Koha] New Serials Documentation
Hi Nicole, The locale option is useful when you want to display days, month or season. If you have a german serial, you can use the german locale option to display days, etc. in german. It doesn't work actually but this patch fixes the problem : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11262 The inner counter doesnt tell system when the number should go back to 1. It is used when you need a "circular" pattern to tell koka how many issues you received or would have received after the beginning of the "circle". If you start receiving issues in the middle of a circular pattern, it helps the system to fall back on the correct numbering when the numbering go back to 1. (Sorry for my broken english....) Check the example in the attached file. It should helps! ;) Francois
I was wondering about Locale myself. Thanks for the answer! On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Francois Charbonnier <francharb@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Nicole,
The locale option is useful when you want to display days, month or season. If you have a german serial, you can use the german locale option to display days, etc. in german. It doesn't work actually but this patch fixes the problem : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11262
The inner counter doesnt tell system when the number should go back to 1. It is used when you need a "circular" pattern to tell koka how many issues you received or would have received after the beginning of the "circle". If you start receiving issues in the middle of a circular pattern, it helps the system to fall back on the correct numbering when the numbering go back to 1. (Sorry for my broken english....)
Check the example in the attached file. It should helps! ;)
Francois
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Francois, That does help! And I love the images. But I'm a bit confused based on the way it used to work. So let me talk through this. It used to be that you entered the rollover - that made sense to people. So if there are 12 issues in a year per volume the rollover was 12 at which point the volume incremented by 1 and the issue went back to 1. So are you saying that now you don't have have a rollover field? Instead it's a combo of the issues field and the inner counter? How would I change the attached image to fit the new model? Nicole On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Francois Charbonnier <francharb@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Nicole,
The locale option is useful when you want to display days, month or season. If you have a german serial, you can use the german locale option to display days, etc. in german. It doesn't work actually but this patch fixes the problem : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11262
The inner counter doesnt tell system when the number should go back to 1. It is used when you need a "circular" pattern to tell koka how many issues you received or would have received after the beginning of the "circle". If you start receiving issues in the middle of a circular pattern, it helps the system to fall back on the correct numbering when the numbering go back to 1. (Sorry for my broken english....)
Check the example in the attached file. It should helps! ;)
Francois
Hi Nicole, Glad the picture helps! :^) I just realised the numbering pattern was good but didn't fit the "inner counter" representation at the end. Here is an updated version : http://picpaste.com/innercounter_updated_with_correct_example-56kRWXjo.png Concerning the rollover, it still exists but you will find it in the advance pattern under the name "When more than". The inner counter is not a new option and doesn't replace the rollover option. Before, you would only find the inner counter in the advance pattern. That would results to mix up configuration specific to the subscription (inner counter which is the number of issues already received) and general numbering pattern configuration (subscription agnostic). The logic behind this new feature is to put together information that can be re-used in different subscriptions (the numbering patterns) and keep the other options, specific to the subscription, outside the pattern. Ultimately, librarians will be able to share their numbering patters (through sql files) and will only have to set up the subscriptions without paying attention to the advance pattern option. About your subscription, I did something here that works (http://picpaste.com/Pattern-YJ45tIGU.png) but I missed some info to have exactly the same pattern as yours. First, the subscription starts after the next issue publication date. Could you give me the start date? And, how the subscription deals with irregularities (jan and aug). Does it skip or keep the issue number? François François Charbonnier, Chef de produits Tél. : (888) 604-2627 francois.charbonnier@inLibro.com <mailto:francois.charbonnier@inLibro.com> inLibro | pour esprit libre | www.inLibro.com <http://www.inLibro.com> Le 2013-12-10 16:36, Nicole Engard a écrit :
Francois,
That does help! And I love the images. But I'm a bit confused based on the way it used to work. So let me talk through this.
It used to be that you entered the rollover - that made sense to people. So if there are 12 issues in a year per volume the rollover was 12 at which point the volume incremented by 1 and the issue went back to 1. So are you saying that now you don't have have a rollover field? Instead it's a combo of the issues field and the inner counter?
How would I change the attached image to fit the new model?
Nicole
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Francois Charbonnier <francharb@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Nicole,
The locale option is useful when you want to display days, month or season. If you have a german serial, you can use the german locale option to display days, etc. in german. It doesn't work actually but this patch fixes the problem : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11262
The inner counter doesnt tell system when the number should go back to 1. It is used when you need a "circular" pattern to tell koka how many issues you received or would have received after the beginning of the "circle". If you start receiving issues in the middle of a circular pattern, it helps the system to fall back on the correct numbering when the numbering go back to 1. (Sorry for my broken english....)
Check the example in the attached file. It should helps! ;)
Francois
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On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Francois Charbonnier < francois.charbonnier@inlibro.com> wrote:
About your subscription, I did something here that works ( http://picpaste.com/Pattern-YJ45tIGU.png) but I missed some info to have exactly the same pattern as yours. First, the subscription starts after the next issue publication date. Could you give me the start date? And, how the subscription deals with irregularities (jan and aug). Does it skip or keep the issue number?
The pattern would look like this: Vol 40 No 1 Feb 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 2 Mar 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 3 Apr 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 4 May 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 5 Jun 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 6 Jul 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 7 Sep 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 8 Oct 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 9 Nov 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 10 Dec 15, 2014 Vol 41 No 1 Feb 15, 2015
Also it would be great if you could get me new images for the manual for these samples - that will help others and teach me what I need to learn :) http://manual.koha-community.org/3.14/en/sampleserialsapp.html Nicole On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Francois Charbonnier < francois.charbonnier@inlibro.com> wrote:
About your subscription, I did something here that works ( http://picpaste.com/Pattern-YJ45tIGU.png) but I missed some info to have exactly the same pattern as yours. First, the subscription starts after the next issue publication date. Could you give me the start date? And, how the subscription deals with irregularities (jan and aug). Does it skip or keep the issue number?
The pattern would look like this:
Vol 40 No 1 Feb 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 2 Mar 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 3 Apr 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 4 May 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 5 Jun 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 6 Jul 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 7 Sep 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 8 Oct 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 9 Nov 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 10 Dec 15, 2014 Vol 41 No 1 Feb 15, 2015
Nicole, Hi again! Here they are : Readers digest (based on the description "The Volume number changes every 6 months and the numbers continues on (requires an advanced pattern).") : http://picpaste.com/readers_digest-7BjE1QNF.png Et-mol : http://picpaste.com/et-mol-29xbnb1U.png Backpacker : http://picpaste.com/backpacker-uoY4DQRJ.png Keast Shelley : http://picpaste.com/Keats-shelley-oHMTNKvf.png If you need more, tell me. I'll see what I can do! ;^) François François Charbonnier, Chef de produits Tél. : (888) 604-2627 francois.charbonnier@inLibro.com <mailto:francois.charbonnier@inLibro.com> inLibro | pour esprit libre | www.inLibro.com <http://www.inLibro.com> Le 2013-12-13 10:07, Nicole Engard a écrit :
Also it would be great if you could get me new images for the manual for these samples - that will help others and teach me what I need to learn :)
http://manual.koha-community.org/3.14/en/sampleserialsapp.html
Nicole
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com <mailto:nengard@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Francois Charbonnier <francois.charbonnier@inlibro.com <mailto:francois.charbonnier@inlibro.com>> wrote:
About your subscription, I did something here that works (http://picpaste.com/Pattern-YJ45tIGU.png) but I missed some info to have exactly the same pattern as yours. First, the subscription starts after the next issue publication date. Could you give me the start date? And, how the subscription deals with irregularities (jan and aug). Does it skip or keep the issue number?
The pattern would look like this:
Vol 40 No 1 Feb 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 2 Mar 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 3 Apr 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 4 May 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 5 Jun 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 6 Jul 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 7 Sep 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 8 Oct 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 9 Nov 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 10 Dec 15, 2014 Vol 41 No 1 Feb 15, 2015
Francois, You are amazing!! Thank you so much!! Nicole On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Francois Charbonnier < francois.charbonnier@inlibro.com> wrote:
Nicole, Hi again!
Here they are :
Readers digest (based on the description "The Volume number changes every 6 months and the numbers continues on (requires an advanced pattern).") : http://picpaste.com/readers_digest-7BjE1QNF.png
Et-mol : http://picpaste.com/et-mol-29xbnb1U.png
Backpacker : http://picpaste.com/backpacker-uoY4DQRJ.png
Keast Shelley : http://picpaste.com/Keats-shelley-oHMTNKvf.png
If you need more, tell me. I'll see what I can do! ;^)
François
François Charbonnier, Chef de produits
Tél. : (888) 604-2627 francois.charbonnier@inLibro.com inLibro | pour esprit libre | www.inLibro.com Le 2013-12-13 10:07, Nicole Engard a écrit :
Also it would be great if you could get me new images for the manual for these samples - that will help others and teach me what I need to learn :)
http://manual.koha-community.org/3.14/en/sampleserialsapp.html
Nicole
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Francois Charbonnier < francois.charbonnier@inlibro.com> wrote:
About your subscription, I did something here that works ( http://picpaste.com/Pattern-YJ45tIGU.png) but I missed some info to have exactly the same pattern as yours. First, the subscription starts after the next issue publication date. Could you give me the start date? And, how the subscription deals with irregularities (jan and aug). Does it skip or keep the issue number?
The pattern would look like this:
Vol 40 No 1 Feb 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 2 Mar 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 3 Apr 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 4 May 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 5 Jun 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 6 Jul 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 7 Sep 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 8 Oct 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 9 Nov 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 10 Dec 15, 2014 Vol 41 No 1 Feb 15, 2015
Hi Nicole, Here is your pattern : http://picpaste.com/pics/example_vol_10num-znKcg8Oq.1387337486.png Cheers! François François Charbonnier, Chef de produits Tél. : (888) 604-2627 francois.charbonnier@inLibro.com <mailto:francois.charbonnier@inLibro.com> inLibro | pour esprit libre | www.inLibro.com <http://www.inLibro.com> Le 2013-12-13 08:15, Nicole Engard a écrit :
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Francois Charbonnier <francois.charbonnier@inlibro.com <mailto:francois.charbonnier@inlibro.com>> wrote:
About your subscription, I did something here that works (http://picpaste.com/Pattern-YJ45tIGU.png) but I missed some info to have exactly the same pattern as yours. First, the subscription starts after the next issue publication date. Could you give me the start date? And, how the subscription deals with irregularities (jan and aug). Does it skip or keep the issue number?
The pattern would look like this:
Vol 40 No 1 Feb 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 2 Mar 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 3 Apr 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 4 May 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 5 Jun 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 6 Jul 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 7 Sep 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 8 Oct 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 9 Nov 15, 2014 Vol 40 No 10 Dec 15, 2014 Vol 41 No 1 Feb 15, 2015
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