Dennis, thanks

will try koha_livecd_325_ub1010_x64.r8 nb Im yet to learn ubuntu or debian well. could you have a link to either a live CD of either?

Please be sure to always respond to the list. That other livecd you mention is still almost two years old. Consider using Kyle Hall's virtual appliance (http://kylehall.info/index.php/projects/koha/koha-virtual-appliance/) but be aware that you cannot run Koha without learning to use Linux. Regards, Jared -- Jared Camins-Esakov Bibliographer, C & P Bibliography Services, LLC (phone) +1 (917) 727-3445 (e-mail) jcamins@cpbibliography.com (web) http://www.cpbibliography.com/