Hi all,

I hope the Koha global community, but especially the American libraries who are PTFS clients, make a very loud, public and clear message that it is not ok for PTFS to behave like this.

This is war folks. PTFS are trying to STEAL koha away from the community. Many many individuals and institutions have invested enormous amounts of labour and cash into making Koha what it is today. When you choose to go with Koha you are choosing to join a community. You may take what has been done before you by others and contribute back to the whole. That is the moral contract.

Silence shows that you condone the behaviour of PTFS. Blog, publish, phone, knock on their door but whatever you do please don't just sit and watch them steal a decades worth of collaborative work.

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 koha-community.net

 koha-community.com

 kohacommunity.org

 kohacommunity.us

Hi all, I watched this with dismay when it came up about a month ago as well. I want to assure you that several of the US PTFS clients have been talking with PTFS about this. We do hope there is a solution in the near future, but can't talk about it until a few other things are in place. Off to a great week! David Schuster

Yes, there are lots of "us" out there. We are a curious lot, and we want to know more. PTFS, please tell us what we have a right to know. Is this a "business model" or sharp business practice? In either case, let's work it out. Gary L. Harris New Mexico State Library -----Original Message----- From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Owen Leonard Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 6:41 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] PTFS/LibLime - misconfigured koha-community.orgDNSrecords

I want to assure you that several of the US PTFS clients have been talking with PTFS about this.  We do hope there is a solution in the near future, but can't talk about it until a few other things are in place.

I'm curious what has to be "in place" for a company to stop domain-squatting. As usual, the Koha community is communicating in public. And also as usual, PTFS will only communicate in private and through proxies. PTFS, if you've got something you'd like to tell us you know where to find us. -- Owen -- Web Developer Athens County Public Libraries http://www.myacpl.org _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. -- This email has been scanned by the Sybari - Antigen Email System.

I looked up the DNS Registration for koha-community.net and I think it indicates the domain was just purchased on May 2, 2010. Is that true? Registrant: PTFS Inc. 7315 Wisconsin Avenue Suite 1200-West Bethesda, MD 20814 US Domain Name: KOHA-COMMUNITY.NET Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: PTFS Inc. jyokley@PTFS.COM 7315 Wisconsin Avenue Suite 1200-West Bethesda, MD 20814 US 999 999 9999 fax: 999 999 9999 Record expires on 02-May-2012. Record created on 02-May-2010. Database last updated on 13-Sep-2010 16:39:53 EDT. On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Mason James <mason@kohaaloha.com> wrote:

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Hi Folks,

Is someone at PTFS/LibLime willing to correct the DNS records of...

koha-community.net koha-community.com kohacommunity.org kohacommunity.us

and point these to their correct destination of koha-community.org.

er, well, actually, having those names point to koha-community.org isn't exactly what we want--if they started being used w/PTFS still owning the names the community wouldn't be better off.

The name squatting does fit with the PTFS way to doing business to at the expense of the community and their customers but having the names point to nothing useful is probably a better option.

It really is a gratuitously silly look for them.

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Just noting that it coincides with the debut of Harley. See http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2010-May/023842.html <http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2010-May/023842.html>Lori On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Mason James <mason@kohaaloha.com> wrote:

On 2010-09-14, at 9:02 AM, Lori Bowen Ayre wrote:

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I looked up the DNS Registration for koha-community.net and I think it indicates the domain was just purchased on May 2, 2010. Is that true?

looks like it to me...

kohacommunity.org -> 25-Apr-2010 koha-community.com -> 02-May-2010 koha-community.net -> 02-May-2010 koha-community.us -> 03-May-2010

Lori, whats the significance of the purchase dates?

Cheers, Mason