Re: [Koha] Help with installation on fedora 8
I was hoping to solve my library problem with an existing application. It is not a full professional library application that is required here, but from the experience I have had with working installations I give my congratulations to developers for a good application. If I was running a professional full scale library with a dedicated server, then Koha would be a good choice.
However I have spent a total of well over 300 hours trying to get an installation that I am happy with. In hindsight I would have been well towards an application that would have served my needs if I had put
Salvete! that
time into my own application rather than getting involved in Koha. Well, IMO that's not a particularly helpful attitude; there are a lot of hard-working folks in this community, and we don't happen to know much about your favorite flavor of LInux. For what it's worth, I just discovered the following French document for how to install Koha on Fedora:
He didn't say otherwise, Josh. He *complimented* the developers, which I tend to think is a great attitude. :) Installation issues - particularly with this problem - are not an unusual complaint in the least - it's a pain to install, plain and simple. The dependencies ought to be bundled together to make this a one, two, three process. If it's the case that LibLime doesn't want to make for an easy installation for financial interests, that's fine. But Fedora is not a strange distro in the least, nor is the complaint that it's too hard to install far afield. Cheers, Brooke
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:29 AM, BWS Johnson <mhelman@illinoisalumni.org> wrote:
Salvete!
I was hoping to solve my library problem with an existing application. It is not a full professional library application that is required here, but from the experience I have had with working installations I give my congratulations to developers for a good application. If I was running a professional full scale library with a dedicated server, then Koha would be a good choice.
However I have spent a total of well over 300 hours trying to get an installation that I am happy with. In hindsight I would have been well towards an application that would have served my needs if I had put that time into my own application rather than getting involved in Koha. Well, IMO that's not a particularly helpful attitude; there are a lot of hard-working folks in this community, and we don't happen to know much about your favorite flavor of LInux. For what it's worth, I just discovered the following French document for how to install Koha on Fedora:
He didn't say otherwise, Josh. He *complimented* the developers, which I tend to think is a great attitude. :) Installation issues - particularly with this problem - are not an unusual complaint in the least - it's a pain to install, plain and simple. The dependencies ought to be bundled together to make this a one, two, three process. If it's the case that LibLime doesn't want to make for an easy installation for financial interests, that's fine. But Fedora is not a strange distro in the least, nor is the complaint that it's too hard to install far afield.
Well, we wrote both the installer and the INSTALL and INSTALL.debian files, and that was work that we contributed without any client sponsorship. Our goal has been to make the installation process as easy as possible, we have no financial interest in making it hard. Koha is brain-dead easy to install on Debian, there's a step by step guide available here, written by yours truly: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian;h=1c35... As far as bundling the dependencies, that steps beyond our (LibLime) domain of knowledge, and we don't have the resources to devote to it -- even for Debian, hough some have talked about it, and I think it's a wonderful idea. Fedora isn't a strange distro, I totally agree; but we (LibLime) don't use it, and we don't know how to install Koha on it, so we would be of much use contributing a document or bundling of the dependencies on it. Anyone on the list (or the dev list which I've CCed) have experience and interest in contributing packages for Debian, RHEL, Fedora, Mandriva, Gentoo, or any other distros? Cheers, -- Joshua Ferraro SUPPORT FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE CEO migration, training, maintenance, support LibLime Featuring Koha Open-Source ILS jmf@liblime.com |Full Demos at http://liblime.com/koha |1(888)KohaILS
Dear Readers, On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 03:50, Joshua Ferraro wrote:
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:29 AM, BWS Johnson
He didn't say otherwise, Josh. He *complimented* the developers, which I tend to think is a great attitude. :)
Installation issues - particularly with this problem - are not an unusual complaint in the least - it's a pain to install, plain and simple. The dependencies ought to be bundled together to make this a one, two, three process. If it's the case that LibLime doesn't want to make for an easy installation for financial interests, that's fine. But Fedora is not a strange distro in the least, nor is the complaint that it's too hard to install far afield.
Well, we wrote both the installer and the INSTALL and INSTALL.debian files, and that was work that we contributed without any client sponsorship. Our goal has been to make the installation process as easy as possible, we have no financial interest in making it hard.
Koha is brain-dead easy to install on Debian, there's a step by step guide available here, written by yours truly:
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian;h=1c35...
As far as bundling the dependencies, that steps beyond our (LibLime) domain of knowledge, and we don't have the resources to devote to it -- even for Debian, hough some have talked about it, and I think it's a wonderful idea.
Fedora isn't a strange distro, I totally agree; but we (LibLime) don't use it, and we don't know how to install Koha on it, so we would be of much use contributing a document or bundling of the dependencies on it.
Anyone on the list (or the dev list which I've CCed) have experience and interest in contributing packages for Debian, RHEL, Fedora, Mandriva, Gentoo, or any other distros?
Scanning the mail archives makes it clear that many users find Koha installation and configuration non-trivial. But what surprises me in all this is the apparent preference for specific Linux distros. What seems to be lacking -- and I find this hard to understand -- is interest in and support for Koha on SunOS or Solaris. I can't explain why this should be the case, given that Solaris has for so long been the ILS platform of choice for so many institutions. The other day I mentioned that I had been having trouble installing Net-Z3950-ZOOM-1.21 under Solaris 10 (an issue still unresolved): Subject: [Koha] Koha-3.00.00-beta | Solaris 10 | Net-Z3950-ZOOM-1.21 | Test suite failure Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:11:34 +1200 In answer, I received only one reply. While I was grateful for the comments received, I was left wondering just how many of the list readers are actually using Koha on serious heavily loaded enterprise systems. How many Koha on Sun readers are out there? Kind regards, Richard MAHONEY -- Richard MAHONEY | internet: http://indica-et-buddhica.org/ Littledene | telephone/telefax (man.): +64 3 312 1699 Bay Road | cellular: +64 27 482 9986 OXFORD, NZ | email: r.mahoney@indica-et-buddhica.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Indica et Buddhica: Materials for Indology and Buddhology Scholia: http://scholia.indica-et-buddhica.org/ Tabulae: http://tabulae.indica-et-buddhica.org/
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Joshua Ferraro <jmf@liblime.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:29 AM, BWS Johnson <mhelman@illinoisalumni.org> wrote:
Salvete!
I was hoping to solve my library problem with an existing application. It is not a full professional library application that is required here, but from the experience I have had with working installations I give my congratulations to developers for a good application. If I was running a professional full scale library with a dedicated server, then Koha would be a good choice.
However I have spent a total of well over 300 hours trying to get an installation that I am happy with. In hindsight I would have been well towards an application that would have served my needs if I had put that time into my own application rather than getting involved in Koha. Well, IMO that's not a particularly helpful attitude; there are a lot of hard-working folks in this community, and we don't happen to know much about your favorite flavor of LInux. For what it's worth, I just discovered the following French document for how to install Koha on Fedora:
He didn't say otherwise, Josh. He *complimented* the developers, which I tend to think is a great attitude. :) Installation issues - particularly with this problem - are not an unusual complaint in the least - it's a pain to install, plain and simple. The dependencies ought to be bundled together to make this a one, two, three process. If it's the case that LibLime doesn't want to make for an easy installation for financial interests, that's fine. But Fedora is not a strange distro in the least, nor is the complaint that it's too hard to install far afield.
Well, we wrote both the installer and the INSTALL and INSTALL.debian files, and that was work that we contributed without any client sponsorship. Our goal has been to make the installation process as easy as possible, we have no financial interest in making it hard.
Koha is brain-dead easy to install on Debian, there's a step by step guide available here, written by yours truly:
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian;h=1c35...
As far as bundling the dependencies, that steps beyond our (LibLime) domain of knowledge, and we don't have the resources to devote to it -- even for Debian, hough some have talked about it, and I think it's a wonderful idea.
Fedora isn't a strange distro, I totally agree; but we (LibLime) don't use it, and we don't know how to install Koha on it, so we would be of much use contributing a document or bundling of the dependencies on it.
Anyone on the list (or the dev list which I've CCed) have experience and interest in contributing packages for Debian, RHEL, Fedora, Mandriva, Gentoo, or any other distros?
I can't vouch for it's accuracy, nor for my translation abilities, but I've added (with permission) the Fedora 7 installation guide written by 'The Department of Computer and Information Science, Library of the University Lyon 2, France' I don't have a Fedora 7 system or other RedHat flavor to try this on, but perhaps those of you who do will find it helpful: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob;f=INSTALL.fedora7;h=362... If you do give it a try, please feel free to submit a patch or email a revision of the document to the list if there are changes or language improvements to be made. Cheers, -- Joshua Ferraro SUPPORT FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE CEO migration, training, maintenance, support LibLime Featuring Koha Open-Source ILS jmf@liblime.com |Full Demos at http://liblime.com/koha |1(888)KohaILS
Hi All Thanks for the comments and advice. I am currently working through the french document and have got about halfway through a re-install. I am documenting the steps I am taking so it can be provided for the use of others. Life has got in the way of getting this done as quickly as I would have liked, but it is still progressing. Joshua, can you please let me know which format you would like the doc to be provided. I am using Open Office Writer and can provide in odt file and/or pdf. Is this suitable? Regards Ken
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Ken Lomax <ken@lomax.gen.nz> wrote:
Hi All Thanks for the comments and advice. I am currently working through the french document and have got about halfway through a re-install. I am documenting the steps I am taking so it can be provided for the use of others. Life has got in the way of getting this done as quickly as I would have liked, but it is still progressing.
Joshua, can you please let me know which format you would like the doc to be provided. I am using Open Office Writer and can provide in odt file and/or pdf. Is this suitable? The best format would be plain text, so that it could be included in the repository just like the INSTALL.fedora (my rough translation of the french document ... you've seen that one, right?).
Cheers, Josh
Regards Ken
-- Joshua Ferraro SUPPORT FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE CEO migration, training, maintenance, support LibLime Featuring Koha Open-Source ILS jmf@liblime.com |Full Demos at http://liblime.com/koha |1(888)KohaILS
Ok, ok ..... Got it all installed and then tried it out :( On the 8080 interface I get an error message: "Production mode--trapped fatal error" On the 80 interface I get the logo and search box and under that I get the following error message: "Site under maintenance. Please come back later. If you still see this page then contact me." This was tried out on the server. So.... What is next now? Joshua, I have not seen INSTALL.fedora. Can you please give me the url. Thanks Ken On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 07:01 -0400, Joshua Ferraro wrote:
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Ken Lomax <ken@lomax.gen.nz> wrote:
Hi All Thanks for the comments and advice. I am currently working through the french document and have got about halfway through a re-install. I am documenting the steps I am taking so it can be provided for the use of others. Life has got in the way of getting this done as quickly as I would have liked, but it is still progressing.
Joshua, can you please let me know which format you would like the doc to be provided. I am using Open Office Writer and can provide in odt file and/or pdf. Is this suitable? The best format would be plain text, so that it could be included in the repository just like the INSTALL.fedora (my rough translation of the french document ... you've seen that one, right?).
Cheers,
Josh
Regards Ken
Got it all installed and then tried it out :( On the 8080 interface I get an error message: "Production mode--trapped fatal error"
An Apache error? What is your apache log file saying? Have you enabled 8080 port listen in Apache config file. What modifications have you done to Apache config?
On the 80 interface I get the logo and search box and under that I get the following error message: "Site under maintenance. Please come back later. If you still see this page then contact me."
It's normal. The OPAC (80) interface won't work until you go through Koha Web Installer which is reachable via 8080 interface.
Joshua, I have not seen INSTALL.fedora. Can you please give me the url.
http://git.koha.org http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob_plain;f=INSTALL.fedora7 --
No, it is a koha error, not an Apache one. There is nothing related in the apache error_log. I have added Listen 8080 to httpd.conf and used Include /etc/koha/koha-httpd.conf to add the koha section When I enter http://localhost:8080 in the url bar it re-directs to http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl Regards Ken On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 12:09 +0200, FrŽedeŽric Demians wrote:
Got it all installed and then tried it out :( On the 8080 interface I get an error message: "Production mode--trapped fatal error"
An Apache error? What is your apache log file saying? Have you enabled 8080 port listen in Apache config file. What modifications have you done to Apache config?
On the 80 interface I get the logo and search box and under that I get the following error message: "Site under maintenance. Please come back later. If you still see this page then contact me."
It's normal. The OPAC (80) interface won't work until you go through Koha Web Installer which is reachable via 8080 interface.
Joshua, I have not seen INSTALL.fedora. Can you please give me the url.
http://git.koha.org http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=Koha;a=blob_plain;f=INSTALL.fedora7 --
When I enter http://localhost:8080 in the url bar it re-directs to http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl
Something prevents the web installer perl script execution. What do you have in koha-error_log file? It may be an execution permission issue, related to file system rights or Apache cgi-bin rights, etc.
Thanks for your help Here is the relevant part of koha-error_log ------------------------------------------------- [Wed May 07 22:47:28 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Wed May 7 22:47:28 2008] mainpage.pl: Install required, redirecting to Installer at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 410. [Wed May 07 22:47:29 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Wed May 7 22:47:29 2008] install.pl: Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/CGI/Session.pm line 129. [Wed May 07 22:47:29 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Wed May 7 22:47:29 2008] install.pl: Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 38. [Wed May 07 22:47:29 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Wed May 7 22:47:29 2008] install.pl: Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 38. [Wed May 07 22:47:29 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Wed May 7 22:47:29 2008] install.pl: Can't locate object method "generate_id" via package "CGI::Session::ID::" (perhaps you forgot to load "CGI::Session::ID::"?) at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/CGI/Session.pm line 74. ------------------------------------------- Regards Ken On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 12:41 +0200, FrŽedeŽric Demians wrote:
When I enter http://localhost:8080 in the url bar it re-directs to http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl
Something prevents the web installer perl script execution. What do you have in koha-error_log file? It may be an execution permission issue, related to file system rights or Apache cgi-bin rights, etc.
[Wed May 07 22:47:29 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Wed May 7 22:47:29 2008] install.pl: Can't locate object method "generate_id" via package "CGI::Session::ID::" (perhaps you forgot to load "CGI::Session::ID::"?) at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/CGI/Session.pm line 74.
Your issue come from a Perl module: CGI::Session. How did you install it? From CPAN or with Fedora packages manager? My experience with other distributions is that you must first try to install Perl modules from distro repository and if unavailable try CPAN. On Fedora, this Perl module package name must be: perl-CGI-Session Search also from Koha list archive. Other users get this issue, if I recall.
Many Thanks I have used several methods to install the perl modules. Originally I was using a terminal and typing: perl -MCPAN -e 'install "abc::def"' where abc::def was the module. This was as suggested in the koha vers 2 installers This time I used
cpan which went to interactive mode, and then typing install abc::def This worked for most modules, with a couple requiring force install abc::def
Following your email just now I used the fedora GUI package manager Applications->Add/Remove Software went to Search, and typed perl-cgi I selected perl-CGI-Simple-0.077-8 and perl-CGI-Session-4.20-2 and installed these koha now works!!!! Thanks everyone for the help. Regards Ken On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 13:10 +0200, Frederic Demians wrote:
[Wed May 07 22:47:29 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Wed May 7 22:47:29 2008] install.pl: Can't locate object method "generate_id" via package "CGI::Session::ID::" (perhaps you forgot to load "CGI::Session::ID::"?) at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/CGI/Session.pm line 74.
Your issue come from a Perl module: CGI::Session.
How did you install it? From CPAN or with Fedora packages manager? My experience with other distributions is that you must first try to install Perl modules from distro repository and if unavailable try CPAN. On Fedora, this Perl module package name must be: perl-CGI-Session
Search also from Koha list archive. Other users get this issue, if I recall.
I think a lot of these problems occurring with CGI::Session are related to CGI::Session::File not being installed. This is the default driver, and is not installed by default. -- Jesse
Hi sir, My name's Raul DECLOUNON, I'm trying to install koha on Centos 6.4 x86_64 with a lot difficulty just need someone to help me to done it. Thank you
Hi! Not a lot of people use Koha on Centos, so getting help might not be too easy. Have you looked at the guides published here? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_Documentation#Centos If you install Koha on Debian using the packages you will find that installation is really easy: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian Good luck! Magnus Enger libriotech.no On 23 January 2014 13:29, raul <radiath2@gmail.com> wrote:
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Can you be more specific regarding the problems which you are having? Tom On 1/23/14 7:29 AM, raul wrote:
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Dear All, Cold you comment on following procedure of uploading MARC records to KOHA. We have a working catalog (KOHA 3.2), periodically we receive new portions of MARC records to be added (may be 1000, or 5000, or 10000 record in one file). In this case we follow "standard" procedure: Tools, Stage MARC records, upload file, match records, "add, replace or ignore",.. Finally we get necessary records to catalog. But this time we have some new situation: we received a batch of bibliographic records for deletion from our catalogue (because they are deleted from the source library). These records have "d" sign in a leader 05 position - Record status (though not sure how this helps us). Unfortunately we do not find a procedure for deleting records from our catalogue via similar procedure Tools, import, ... Obviously our goal would be to find matching records, delete them from catalog and do not add any record. Could you share you experience? Do you do this in you catalogues? And how? Best regards Irakli National Science Library, Georgia
If it helps, I've enabled Centos 6 builds in my (fedora-based) repository. Not all of the packages required have built yet (CentOS seems to have some dependencies missing), but a good whack of them are there for you here http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/vanoudt/CentOS_CentOS-6/. You should be able to install a Fedora SRPM into Centos for most of the missing packages. I'll also see what I can do to help the repository along, if it is going to be of any assistance. Nick Perth Bible College On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Tom Hanstra <tom@nd.edu> wrote:
Can you be more specific regarding the problems which you are having?
Tom
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