Music notation or printed music - how to make it obvious
For some reason, in all the years that our little library has been in existence, no one has bothered to specify when a publication is primarily music notation. I'm changing this as we migrate to Koha (nearly half our stuff is music notation), but before I take the plunge I need to think about how it will work, and what it will look like. It's my understanding that Koha stores Leader information, but does nothing with it, is this correct? I want something that will show up clearly, is easily spotted. Not buried somewhere in the physical description or down in a notes field. I'm disinclined to use general material designations, but that could be one way. The other thought was item type. Collections seem less intuitive somehow, and as we have lots of special collections which might contain individual publications of music notation, I'm not sure if that works. Anyone with experience in this? Thanks -- Elaine Bradtke EFDSS
Elaine, If you turn on XSLT stylesheets in your OPAC you will actually see a music symbol on the search results and I think on the bib record detail page itself. I'm off to try a test for you to get you an image of what it will look like. Thanks Nicole On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Elaine Bradtke <bradtke.e@googlemail.com> wrote:
For some reason, in all the years that our little library has been in existence, no one has bothered to specify when a publication is primarily music notation. I'm changing this as we migrate to Koha (nearly half our stuff is music notation), but before I take the plunge I need to think about how it will work, and what it will look like.
It's my understanding that Koha stores Leader information, but does nothing with it, is this correct?
I want something that will show up clearly, is easily spotted. Not buried somewhere in the physical description or down in a notes field. I'm disinclined to use general material designations, but that could be one way. The other thought was item type. Collections seem less intuitive somehow, and as we have lots of special collections which might contain individual publications of music notation, I'm not sure if that works. Anyone with experience in this? Thanks
-- Elaine Bradtke EFDSS _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Elaine, I found it: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/opac/xslt/item-type-display Nicole On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaine,
If you turn on XSLT stylesheets in your OPAC you will actually see a music symbol on the search results and I think on the bib record detail page itself. I'm off to try a test for you to get you an image of what it will look like.
Thanks Nicole
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Elaine Bradtke <bradtke.e@googlemail.com> wrote:
For some reason, in all the years that our little library has been in existence, no one has bothered to specify when a publication is primarily music notation. I'm changing this as we migrate to Koha (nearly half our stuff is music notation), but before I take the plunge I need to think about how it will work, and what it will look like.
It's my understanding that Koha stores Leader information, but does nothing with it, is this correct?
I want something that will show up clearly, is easily spotted. Not buried somewhere in the physical description or down in a notes field. I'm disinclined to use general material designations, but that could be one way. The other thought was item type. Collections seem less intuitive somehow, and as we have lots of special collections which might contain individual publications of music notation, I'm not sure if that works. Anyone with experience in this? Thanks
-- Elaine Bradtke EFDSS _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Aha, so it does use the leader info! I was confused by legacy information on an older version of Koha. However. . . I would like to point out that in MARC 21, leader 6 c is "notated music", and the display says "sound" (and the icon implies sound). I think calling music notation "sound" is worse than leaving the information out altogether. Thanks for the pointer. Any chance sound can be corrected to music, with perhaps a different icon? Elaine Bradtke On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaine,
I found it: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/opac/xslt/item-type-display
Nicole
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaine,
If you turn on XSLT stylesheets in your OPAC you will actually see a music symbol on the search results and I think on the bib record detail page itself. I'm off to try a test for you to get you an image of what it will look like.
Thanks Nicole
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Elaine Bradtke <bradtke.e@googlemail.com> wrote:
For some reason, in all the years that our little library has been in existence, no one has bothered to specify when a publication is primarily music notation. I'm changing this as we migrate to Koha (nearly half our stuff is music notation), but before I take the plunge I need to think about how it will work, and what it will look like.
It's my understanding that Koha stores Leader information, but does nothing with it, is this correct?
I want something that will show up clearly, is easily spotted. Not buried somewhere in the physical description or down in a notes field. I'm disinclined to use general material designations, but that could be one way. The other thought was item type. Collections seem less intuitive somehow, and as we have lots of special collections which might contain individual publications of music notation, I'm not sure if that works. Anyone with experience in this? Thanks
-- Elaine Bradtke EFDSS _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Elaine
There are comments on that page to that effect - and a bug report you should watch/update with things you find: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3293 Nicole On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Elaine Bradtke <bradtke.e@googlemail.com> wrote:
Aha, so it does use the leader info! I was confused by legacy information on an older version of Koha. However. . . I would like to point out that in MARC 21, leader 6 c is "notated music", and the display says "sound" (and the icon implies sound). I think calling music notation "sound" is worse than leaving the information out altogether. Thanks for the pointer. Any chance sound can be corrected to music, with perhaps a different icon? Elaine Bradtke
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaine,
I found it: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/opac/xslt/item-type-display
Nicole
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaine,
If you turn on XSLT stylesheets in your OPAC you will actually see a music symbol on the search results and I think on the bib record detail page itself. I'm off to try a test for you to get you an image of what it will look like.
Thanks Nicole
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Elaine Bradtke <bradtke.e@googlemail.com> wrote:
For some reason, in all the years that our little library has been in existence, no one has bothered to specify when a publication is primarily music notation. I'm changing this as we migrate to Koha (nearly half our stuff is music notation), but before I take the plunge I need to think about how it will work, and what it will look like.
It's my understanding that Koha stores Leader information, but does nothing with it, is this correct?
I want something that will show up clearly, is easily spotted. Not buried somewhere in the physical description or down in a notes field. I'm disinclined to use general material designations, but that could be one way. The other thought was item type. Collections seem less intuitive somehow, and as we have lots of special collections which might contain individual publications of music notation, I'm not sure if that works. Anyone with experience in this? Thanks
-- Elaine Bradtke EFDSS _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Elaine
Elaine, yes, it can be corrected (sound to notated music or score), you could look at http://artes.biblio.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=mozart+piano+co... in which we use the icon http://artes.biblio.unc.edu.ar/opac-tmpl/prog/famfamfam/silk/score.png We do it changing the XSLT files of results and details. Regards bgk On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Elaine Bradtke <bradtke.e@googlemail.com>wrote:
Aha, so it does use the leader info! I was confused by legacy information on an older version of Koha. However. . . I would like to point out that in MARC 21, leader 6 c is "notated music", and the display says "sound" (and the icon implies sound). I think calling music notation "sound" is worse than leaving the information out altogether. Thanks for the pointer. Any chance sound can be corrected to music, with perhaps a different icon? Elaine Bradtke
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaine,
I found it: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/opac/xslt/item-type-display
Nicole
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaine,
If you turn on XSLT stylesheets in your OPAC you will actually see a music symbol on the search results and I think on the bib record detail page itself. I'm off to try a test for you to get you an image of what it will look like.
Thanks Nicole
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Elaine Bradtke <bradtke.e@googlemail.com> wrote:
For some reason, in all the years that our little library has been in existence, no one has bothered to specify when a publication is primarily music notation. I'm changing this as we migrate to Koha (nearly half our stuff is music notation), but before I take the plunge I need to think about how it will work, and what it will look like.
It's my understanding that Koha stores Leader information, but does nothing with it, is this correct?
I want something that will show up clearly, is easily spotted. Not buried somewhere in the physical description or down in a notes field. I'm disinclined to use general material designations, but that could be one way. The other thought was item type. Collections seem less intuitive somehow, and as we have lots of special collections which might contain individual publications of music notation, I'm not sure if that works. Anyone with experience in this? Thanks
-- Elaine Bradtke EFDSS _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Elaine _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Good afternoon, My name is Lisa Barr and I work for the Middle East Institute. Simon who was the previous librarian has left. I need some assistance with Koha. My number is (202) 785-1141 ext 222. Help!!! Thanks Lisa Barr From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:15 PM To: Elaine Bradtke Cc: Koha list Subject: Re: [Koha] Music notation or printed music - how to make it obvious Elaine, yes, it can be corrected (sound to notated music or score), you could look at http://artes.biblio.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=mozart+pian o+concertos+cadenza in which we use the icon http://artes.biblio.unc.edu.ar/opac-tmpl/prog/famfamfam/silk/score.png We do it changing the XSLT files of results and details. Regards bgk On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Elaine Bradtke <bradtke.e@googlemail.com> wrote: Aha, so it does use the leader info! I was confused by legacy information on an older version of Koha. However. . . I would like to point out that in MARC 21, leader 6 c is "notated music", and the display says "sound" (and the icon implies sound). I think calling music notation "sound" is worse than leaving the information out altogether. Thanks for the pointer. Any chance sound can be corrected to music, with perhaps a different icon? Elaine Bradtke On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaine,
I found it: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/opac/xslt/item-type-display
Nicole
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaine,
If you turn on XSLT stylesheets in your OPAC you will actually see a music symbol on the search results and I think on the bib record detail page itself. I'm off to try a test for you to get you an image of what it will look like.
Thanks Nicole
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Elaine Bradtke <bradtke.e@googlemail.com> wrote:
For some reason, in all the years that our little library has been in existence, no one has bothered to specify when a publication is primarily music notation. I'm changing this as we migrate to Koha (nearly half our stuff is music notation), but before I take the plunge I need to think about how it will work, and what it will look like.
It's my understanding that Koha stores Leader information, but does nothing with it, is this correct?
I want something that will show up clearly, is easily spotted. Not buried somewhere in the physical description or down in a notes field. I'm disinclined to use general material designations, but that could be one way. The other thought was item type. Collections seem less intuitive somehow, and as we have lots of special collections which might contain individual publications of music notation, I'm not sure if that works. Anyone with experience in this? Thanks
-- Elaine Bradtke EFDSS _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Elaine _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
2010/3/26 Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel <gonzalez@famaf.unc.edu.ar>:
Elaine, yes, it can be corrected (sound to notated music or score), you could look at http://artes.biblio.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=mozart+piano+co... in which we use the icon http://artes.biblio.unc.edu.ar/opac-tmpl/prog/famfamfam/silk/score.png
We do it changing the XSLT files of results and details.
Hi Bernardo It would be fantastic if you could send a patch of your changes, and we will commit them into git so they get out into Koha for everybody Chris
Nice icon! I may need more info on what you've done to your XSLT files at some point. I'm warming to the idea of using the leader, as there is a bit of reluctance on the part of the library director to create a Koha item type = 'music'. But first, I've got to work out how our leader-less records can be supplied with appropriate leaders (before or during conversion to MARC). Because our classification system doesn't neatly divide the printed and manuscript music from the rest of the material, it will be a challenge to do the right thing without individually editing every blessed one of them. Thanks! Elaine On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel <gonzalez@famaf.unc.edu.ar> wrote:
Elaine, yes, it can be corrected (sound to notated music or score), you could look at http://artes.biblio.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=mozart+piano+co... in which we use the icon http://artes.biblio.unc.edu.ar/opac-tmpl/prog/famfamfam/silk/score.png
We do it changing the XSLT files of results and details.
Regards bgk
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Elaine Bradtke <bradtke.e@googlemail.com> wrote:
Aha, so it does use the leader info! I was confused by legacy information on an older version of Koha. However. . . I would like to point out that in MARC 21, leader 6 c is "notated music", and the display says "sound" (and the icon implies sound). I think calling music notation "sound" is worse than leaving the information out altogether. Thanks for the pointer. Any chance sound can be corrected to music, with perhaps a different icon? Elaine Bradtke
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaine,
I found it: http://koha.org/documentation/manual/3.2/opac/xslt/item-type-display
Nicole
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Elaine,
If you turn on XSLT stylesheets in your OPAC you will actually see a music symbol on the search results and I think on the bib record detail page itself. I'm off to try a test for you to get you an image of what it will look like.
Thanks Nicole
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Elaine Bradtke <bradtke.e@googlemail.com> wrote:
For some reason, in all the years that our little library has been in existence, no one has bothered to specify when a publication is primarily music notation. I'm changing this as we migrate to Koha (nearly half our stuff is music notation), but before I take the plunge I need to think about how it will work, and what it will look like.
It's my understanding that Koha stores Leader information, but does nothing with it, is this correct?
I want something that will show up clearly, is easily spotted. Not buried somewhere in the physical description or down in a notes field. I'm disinclined to use general material designations, but that could be one way. The other thought was item type. Collections seem less intuitive somehow, and as we have lots of special collections which might contain individual publications of music notation, I'm not sure if that works. Anyone with experience in this? Thanks
-- Elaine Bradtke EFDSS _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Elaine _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
-- Elaine
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