Re: Fwd: [Koha] MARC tag structure problem, Dewey problems & Possible to create items when importing MARC?
Thursday, September 14, 2006 23:32 CDT Hi, Aren, I think I am understanding what Stephen H. is saying, but I am not 100% on what your current MARC tag structure is. I have time to take a look at this if you like. Could you provide 1-2 tagged MARC examples of records with the 852, 952, etc., either on listserv or off? Stephen could confirm, but my understanding is that each MARC record could hold more than one 952, -- which is where Koha holds Item Information, right? --, so then the problem would be moving the data from wherever your current structure holds that info to where Koha expects it? I think MARCEdit should be able to do that. Anyway, I'm willing to give it a look-see. Get back to me if you want. Cheers, Steven F. Baljkas library tech at large Koha neophyte Winnipeg, MB, Canada ============================================================ From: "Aren Olson" <reacocard@gmail.com> Date: 2006/09/13 Wed PM 09:36:46 CDT To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Fwd: [Koha] MARC tag structure problem, Dewey problems & Possible to create items when importing MARC? On 9/13/06, Stephen Hedges <st.hedges@gmail.com> wrote:
I am helping a public library switch to koha, and have a few problems
On 9/11/06, Aren Olson <reacocard@gmail.com> wrote: that
have come up while importing the old data.
First, on the "MARC Check" page, It says
item fieldsALL items fields MUST :
be mapped to the same tag, and they must all be in the 10 (items) tab
Item tagThere is more than 1 MARC tag related to items tab (10) : 852,952, This is correct, the previous ILS's MARC setup puts some item data on each tag. Is it safe to leave it like this?
No, Koha will not work until you get the MARC check to return no errors.
Then how am I to make it work? There is data on both tags. If I use this setup for import, then change it later, would that work? [snip...]
Thirdly, is there any way to have koha automatically create items from a
MARC import? The records import, but I have to manually create an item for each record before I can use it. This is impractical, since there are thousands of records.
I believe the best way to do this is still to use the bulkmarcimport.plscript.
Stephen
That's what I used. the records import fine, but no items are created. -- "Whoever said sunshine brings happiness has never danced in the rain." - K. Jackson Ubuntu Linux - www.ubuntu.com ============================================================
When I was at NPL, we had a script that used the Perl MARC::Record module to basically re-write the records before they were imported into Koha. However you do it, you will need to get all of your "holdings" information into one tag for Koha, and anything that is not really item information (there's usually lots of "biblioitems" stuff in the old holdings tag) needs to be moved out to a separate tag before import. The tag you use for item data (for Koha) must contain all of your items data and ~only~ item data. I'm guessing bulkmarcimport.pl won't work until you have your MARC Check working cleanly. I've attached the NPL script, just as an example. Note that it's been a while since I worked directly with Koha; I hope some of the developers will jump in and tell us if anything has changed that would affect this issue. Stephen On 9/14/06, Steven F. Baljkas <baljkas@mts.net> wrote:
Thursday, September 14, 2006 23:32 CDT
Hi, Aren,
I think I am understanding what Stephen H. is saying, but I am not 100% on what your current MARC tag structure is.
I have time to take a look at this if you like. Could you provide 1-2 tagged MARC examples of records with the 852, 952, etc., either on listserv or off?
Stephen could confirm, but my understanding is that each MARC record could hold more than one 952, -- which is where Koha holds Item Information, right? --, so then the problem would be moving the data from wherever your current structure holds that info to where Koha expects it? I think MARCEdit should be able to do that.
Anyway, I'm willing to give it a look-see. Get back to me if you want.
Cheers, Steven F. Baljkas library tech at large Koha neophyte Winnipeg, MB, Canada
============================================================ From: "Aren Olson" <reacocard@gmail.com> Date: 2006/09/13 Wed PM 09:36:46 CDT To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Fwd: [Koha] MARC tag structure problem, Dewey problems & Possible to create items when importing MARC?
On 9/13/06, Stephen Hedges <st.hedges@gmail.com> wrote:
I am helping a public library switch to koha, and have a few problems
On 9/11/06, Aren Olson <reacocard@gmail.com> wrote: that
have come up while importing the old data.
First, on the "MARC Check" page, It says
item fieldsALL items fields MUST :
be mapped to the same tag, and they must all be in the 10 (items) tab
Item tagThere is more than 1 MARC tag related to items tab (10) : 852,952, This is correct, the previous ILS's MARC setup puts some item data on each tag. Is it safe to leave it like this?
No, Koha will not work until you get the MARC check to return no errors.
Then how am I to make it work? There is data on both tags. If I use this setup for import, then change it later, would that work?
[snip...]
Thirdly, is there any way to have koha automatically create items from a
MARC import? The records import, but I have to manually create an item for each record before I can use it. This is impractical, since there are thousands of records.
I believe the best way to do this is still to use the bulkmarcimport.plscript.
Stephen
That's what I used. the records import fine, but no items are created.
-- "Whoever said sunshine brings happiness has never danced in the rain." - K. Jackson Ubuntu Linux - www.ubuntu.com
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