Re: [Koha] US Koha Conference NOT KOHACON NZ
Sorry, but whether there is a US Koha conference or not, there is zero chance of our organization, and I suspect any other Kansas Koha users, going to KohaCon NZ. Too bad but that's just the way it is. Jim Minges Nicole Engard wrote: As I said on IRC - My concern is that if there is a US conference as well then library admins will not send people to NZ where they might have before. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:18 PM, David Schuster <dschust1@tx.rr.com> wrote:
I wanted to see what type of interest there is in another conference in
the
US and who would be willing to help/host/committee/present...
There has been lots of discussion about other issues, but thought we should refocus our energy to helping each other.
I know Chris is working on a conference in NZ - KohaCon 2010 anniversary - but many of us I know won't be able to attend. ?I don't want to take any thunder from that though as well...
What are peoples thoughts - concerns...
Some people indicated if there is no other option than NZ maybe their administration would let them go to NZ - I want to hear what people have to say. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/US-Koha-Conference-NOT-KOHACON-NZ-tp25755580p25755580.... Sent from the Koha - Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
-- Jim Minges, Director Northeast Kansas Library System 4317 West 6th Street Lawrence, KS 66049 Phone: 785-838-4090 FAX: 785-838-3989 jminges@nekls.org
2009/10/6 Jim Minges <jminges@nekls.org>:
Sorry, but whether there is a US Koha conference or not, there is zero chance of our organization, and I suspect any other Kansas Koha users, going to KohaCon NZ. Too bad but that's just the way it is.
That is a real shame, .... Ive been to both Kohacon in Paris in 2006 and Kohacon in the US in 2009. And there was 0 chance of any of the NZ libraries who run Koha (including of course HLT who started the whole thing) being able to go. So I totally understand that it is unlikely that huge numbers of North American on European Libraries will be able to attend. But I also would not like one to detract from the other. Perhaps they could be held alternate years? It was 3 years between the first and second Kohacon, maybe we don't need the third and fourth on the same year. Chris
I'm all for that - alternate between US, Europe and NZ one a year. There are plenty of conferences that people can't go to every year - and that doesn't mean they miss anything huge. Nicole On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz> wrote:
2009/10/6 Jim Minges <jminges@nekls.org>:
Sorry, but whether there is a US Koha conference or not, there is zero chance of our organization, and I suspect any other Kansas Koha users, going to KohaCon NZ. Too bad but that's just the way it is.
That is a real shame, .... Ive been to both Kohacon in Paris in 2006 and Kohacon in the US in 2009. And there was 0 chance of any of the NZ libraries who run Koha (including of course HLT who started the whole thing) being able to go. So I totally understand that it is unlikely that huge numbers of North American on European Libraries will be able to attend. But I also would not like one to detract from the other.
Perhaps they could be held alternate years? It was 3 years between the first and second Kohacon, maybe we don't need the third and fourth on the same year.
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I just wanted to start the discussion so don't shoot me... When I was working with another organization we had to plan our conferences 3 years out just in the US so I understand rotating and not detracting from the real thing - NZ KohaCon. I still want to attend - even if I have to attempt to do it on my own dime. On the Dev list someone suggested more regional meetings - which could be a great start as well. I'm even pondering some 1 day online events. I have access to some great webconferencing tools that we might be able to use - it all runs in flash so it doesn't require openings in firewalls etc... I know KEGGERS(Kansas), and WHISKEY?(sp)(Wisconsin) have setup groups. I know on the wiki there is an events page maybe these "organized groups" could put up their meeting dates for everyone in case someone wanted to attempt to attend one of their meetings. KIG's http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:organisations:koha_interest_groups:start Other thoughts? Chris Cormack-6 wrote:
2009/10/6 Jim Minges <jminges@nekls.org>:
Sorry, but whether there is a US Koha conference or not, there is zero chance of our organization, and I suspect any other Kansas Koha users, going to KohaCon NZ. Too bad but that's just the way it is.
That is a real shame, .... Ive been to both Kohacon in Paris in 2006 and Kohacon in the US in 2009. And there was 0 chance of any of the NZ libraries who run Koha (including of course HLT who started the whole thing) being able to go. So I totally understand that it is unlikely that huge numbers of North American on European Libraries will be able to attend. But I also would not like one to detract from the other.
Perhaps they could be held alternate years? It was 3 years between the first and second Kohacon, maybe we don't need the third and fourth on the same year.
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Salvete! Sorry, but whether there is a US Koha conference or not, there is zero chance of our organization, and I suspect any other Kansas Koha users, going to KohaCon NZ. Too bad but that's just the way it is. Jim Minges Be that as it may, Jim, it's very selfish for US users to not plan around the rest of the world from time to time. The first KohaCon was in Paris. I really wanted to go, but I was unable. It rolled around to US, I was very happy to go. When it rolls around to NZ, I want to go. I have seen Chris bleary eyed from flight twice now, and I don't think American users are making the same efforts international users are in getting to conference. I was delighted at how many French hopped over to see us. What's a big ocean between friends? If we rotate the host continent, then it will be close to someone's backyard eventually. We've done Europe, we've done North America, I'd propose Aus/NZ, then South America, then Asia, then Africa. Yes, it might end up taking a long time for it to be in your backyard, but the point is that it will get there eventually. :D Why not plan so that the US conference is six months away from the NZ conference. Budgets and wallets might be replenished by then. Even better, since KohaCon has mostly been following a biennial approach, we can plan a US conference for 2011. Nicole Engard wrote: As I said on IRC - My concern is that if there is a US conference as well then library admins will not send people to NZ where they might have before. I share this concern, Nicole. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:18 PM, David Schuster <dschust1@tx.rr.com> wrote:
I wanted to see what type of interest there is in another conference in the US and who would be willing to help/host/committee/present...
There has been lots of discussion about other issues, but thought we should refocus our energy to helping each other.
I know Chris is working on a conference in NZ - KohaCon 2010 anniversary - but many of us I know won't be able to attend. ?I don't want to take any thunder from that though as well...
What are peoples thoughts - concerns...
Some people indicated if there is no other option than NZ maybe their administration would let them go to NZ - I want to hear what people have to say.
If people are amenable, I am willing to organise a conference in 2011 for a US KohaCon that will not conflict with another international KohaCon, should another nation step forward to host an international conference if the community feels like having an annual international conference. Since my new home is in Arlington, I would propose my location be somewhere in the DC Metro area. If someone else is foolish enough to want to take this on, we can either duke it out in the carpark, or preferably submit electronic bids somewhere and throw it up for a vote. I would certainly help organise a "rival" conference should I lose out. I would further suggest application of my moveable international conference to the domestic one. Since we had it in Plano last time, were DC to be worthy of the next US conference, then I would hope someone from the West Coast would step up for the US conference after that. I would like to stress that if the "dirty" French, New Zealanders, or any other international visitors make the journey to a US KohaCon, they will of course be welcome! Cheers, Brooke
Would Honolulu be a viable alternative? I used to bring folks from Dunedin and Christchurch over for a Novell users conference in Honolulu every year. I¹m fairly sure I could get the East West Center inexpensively and also get a block of graduate dorm rooms super cheap...the last time I put folks up in our grad dorm it was $65/night. To save even more, we might be able to convince our open source conference to co-locate and share expenses??? Honolulu gets MUCH cheaper in off seasons like Fall and Spring....our high seasons are Winter (snow birds) and Summer (everyone off school)....and right now there are amazing deals on airfares since all the airlines are hurting...my buddies just did a $599 round trip from Orlando to Honolulu on united. We also have a library school that could possibly be convinced to get sucked into such a project and my wife is on the board of the Hawaii Library Consortium. /brian chee On 10/5/09 10:06 AM, "M. Brooke Helman" <abesottedphoenix@yahoo.com> wrote:
Salvete!
Sorry, but whether there is a US Koha conference or not, there is zero chance of our organization, and I suspect any other Kansas Koha users, going to KohaCon NZ. Too bad but that's just the way it is.
Jim Minges
Be that as it may, Jim, it's very selfish for US users to not plan around the rest of the world from time to time. The first KohaCon was in Paris. I really wanted to go, but I was unable. It rolled around to US, I was very happy to go. When it rolls around to NZ, I want to go. I have seen Chris bleary eyed from flight twice now, and I don't think American users are making the same efforts international users are in getting to conference. I was delighted at how many French hopped over to see us. What's a big ocean between friends? If we rotate the host continent, then it will be close to someone's backyard eventually. We've done Europe, we've done North America, I'd propose Aus/NZ, then South America, then Asia, then Africa. Yes, it might end up taking a long time for it to be in your backyard, but the point is that it will get there eventually. :D
Why not plan so that the US conference is six months away from the NZ conference. Budgets and wallets might be replenished by then. Even better, since KohaCon has mostly been following a biennial approach, we can plan a US conference for 2011.
Nicole Engard wrote:
As I said on IRC - My concern is that if there is a US conference as well then library admins will not send people to NZ where they might have before.
I share this concern, Nicole.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:18 PM, David Schuster <dschust1@tx.rr.com> wrote:
I wanted to see what type of interest there is in another conference in the US and who would be willing to help/host/committee/present...
There has been lots of discussion about other issues, but thought we should refocus our energy to helping each other.
I know Chris is working on a conference in NZ - KohaCon 2010 anniversary - but many of us I know won't be able to attend. ?I don't want to take any thunder from that though as well...
What are peoples thoughts - concerns...
Some people indicated if there is no other option than NZ maybe their administration would let them go to NZ - I want to hear what people have to say.
If people are amenable, I am willing to organise a conference in 2011 for a US KohaCon that will not conflict with another international KohaCon, should another nation step forward to host an international conference if the community feels like having an annual international conference. Since my new home is in Arlington, I would propose my location be somewhere in the DC Metro area. If someone else is foolish enough to want to take this on, we can either duke it out in the carpark, or preferably submit electronic bids somewhere and throw it up for a vote. I would certainly help organise a "rival" conference should I lose out. I would further suggest application of my moveable international conference to the domestic one. Since we had it in Plano last time, were DC to be worthy of the next US conference, then I would hope someone from the West Coast would step up for the US conference after that. I would like to stress that if the "dirty" French, New Zealanders, or any other international visitors make the journey to a US KohaCon, they will of course be welcome!
Cheers, Brooke
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Not this year, but I'd love to get to come to Hawaii for a KohaCon at some point!! The NZ crew is already starting the planning and I don't think we should even be talking about moving that conference at this point - it's the 10th anniversary of Koha and makes perfect sense that we go back to where it all started (if we can). Nicole 2009/10/5 Brian Chee <chee@hawaii.edu>:
Would Honolulu be a viable alternative? I used to bring folks from Dunedin and Christchurch over for a Novell users conference in Honolulu every year. I’m fairly sure I could get the East West Center inexpensively and also get a block of graduate dorm rooms super cheap...the last time I put folks up in our grad dorm it was $65/night.
To save even more, we might be able to convince our open source conference to co-locate and share expenses??? Honolulu gets MUCH cheaper in off seasons like Fall and Spring....our high seasons are Winter (snow birds) and Summer (everyone off school)....and right now there are amazing deals on airfares since all the airlines are hurting...my buddies just did a $599 round trip from Orlando to Honolulu on united.
We also have a library school that could possibly be convinced to get sucked into such a project and my wife is on the board of the Hawaii Library Consortium.
/brian chee
On 10/5/09 10:06 AM, "M. Brooke Helman" <abesottedphoenix@yahoo.com> wrote:
Salvete!
Sorry, but whether there is a US Koha conference or not, there is zero chance of our organization, and I suspect any other Kansas Koha users, going to KohaCon NZ. Too bad but that's just the way it is.
Jim Minges
Be that as it may, Jim, it's very selfish for US users to not plan around the rest of the world from time to time. The first KohaCon was in Paris. I really wanted to go, but I was unable. It rolled around to US, I was very happy to go. When it rolls around to NZ, I want to go. I have seen Chris bleary eyed from flight twice now, and I don't think American users are making the same efforts international users are in getting to conference. I was delighted at how many French hopped over to see us. What's a big ocean between friends? If we rotate the host continent, then it will be close to someone's backyard eventually. We've done Europe, we've done North America, I'd propose Aus/NZ, then South America, then Asia, then Africa. Yes, it might end up taking a long time for it to be in your backyard, but the point is that it will get there eventually. :D
Why not plan so that the US conference is six months away from the NZ conference. Budgets and wallets might be replenished by then. Even better, since KohaCon has mostly been following a biennial approach, we can plan a US conference for 2011.
Nicole Engard wrote:
As I said on IRC - My concern is that if there is a US conference as well then library admins will not send people to NZ where they might have before.
I share this concern, Nicole.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:18 PM, David Schuster <dschust1@tx.rr.com> wrote:
I wanted to see what type of interest there is in another conference in the US and who would be willing to help/host/committee/present...
There has been lots of discussion about other issues, but thought we should refocus our energy to helping each other.
I know Chris is working on a conference in NZ - KohaCon 2010 anniversary - but many of us I know won't be able to attend. ?I don't want to take any thunder from that though as well...
What are peoples thoughts - concerns...
Some people indicated if there is no other option than NZ maybe their administration would let them go to NZ - I want to hear what people have to say.
If people are amenable, I am willing to organise a conference in 2011 for a US KohaCon that will not conflict with another international KohaCon, should another nation step forward to host an international conference if the community feels like having an annual international conference. Since my new home is in Arlington, I would propose my location be somewhere in the DC Metro area. If someone else is foolish enough to want to take this on, we can either duke it out in the carpark, or preferably submit electronic bids somewhere and throw it up for a vote. I would certainly help organise a "rival" conference should I lose out. I would further suggest application of my moveable international conference to the domestic one. Since we had it in Plano last time, were DC to be worthy of the next US conference, then I would hope someone from the West Coast would step up for the US conference after that. I would like to stress that if the "dirty" French, New Zealanders, or any other international visitors make the journey to a US KohaCon, they will of course be welcome!
Cheers, Brooke
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I agree with suggestions in the other thread that we should hold off a US-based conference for another year or two. While it's a shame that many American users will not get funded to come go to NZ, I imagine administrators will be even less inclined if there was a viable option on the continent within however many months. Question for our European community members: how expensive is it for you to get to New Zealand? Is North America alone in its perceived travel woes, or are other regions affected the same way? Regardless, I think we should do as much as we can to give KohaCon 2010 as strong an online presence as possible. Some ideas: 1. Do live webcasts of the sessions. I have some experience with this kind of thing; it's hard, but with the right support staff and technology, it could be done. This would let our remote community members watch in real time (and of course go back to watch later). 2. Coupled with the live webcasts, a systematic way for users to ask questions and participate in the discussion. We could appoint someone in every session to be 'international liaison', and have them monitor IRC, Twitter and perhaps an IM account. They would then be able to proxy the questions to the presenter. Multiple liaisons might be necessary to handle the diversity of languages. 3. For folks with something to say, have them make a quick video or slideshow with audio, and allow them time to present to the conference go-ers. IRC or telephone could be used for realtime two-way discussion. 4. Ask presenters to have their materials ready electronically for publication to the wiki within an hour of their presentation. Once posted, either a conference go-er or a remote community member could garden the page and advertise it to the world. 5. Since a lot of the 'good stuff' at a conference happens after the presentation space goes dark, I'd ask the conference go-ers to tweet/blog as frequently as is practical. Hopefully this can give some of the flavor of being there to those who couldn’t make it. I am hoping to get funding to attend this conference, and should I get it, I will gladly put in the effort to make the above happen. Even if I don't, I'll do anything I can to help. Does anyone else think this is a worthwhile pursuit, or is the effort required too great for the reward? Cheers, Ian Walls Systems Integration Librarian NYU Health Sciences Libraries 550 First Ave., New York, NY 10016 (212) 263-8687 -----Original Message----- From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Nicole Engard Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 7:39 AM To: Brian Chee Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz; M. Brooke Helman Subject: Re: [Koha] US Koha Conference Not this year, but I'd love to get to come to Hawaii for a KohaCon at some point!! The NZ crew is already starting the planning and I don't think we should even be talking about moving that conference at this point - it's the 10th anniversary of Koha and makes perfect sense that we go back to where it all started (if we can). Nicole 2009/10/5 Brian Chee <chee@hawaii.edu>:
Would Honolulu be a viable alternative? I used to bring folks from Dunedin and Christchurch over for a Novell users conference in Honolulu every year. I’m fairly sure I could get the East West Center inexpensively and also get a block of graduate dorm rooms super cheap...the last time I put folks up in our grad dorm it was $65/night.
To save even more, we might be able to convince our open source conference to co-locate and share expenses??? Honolulu gets MUCH cheaper in off seasons like Fall and Spring....our high seasons are Winter (snow birds) and Summer (everyone off school)....and right now there are amazing deals on airfares since all the airlines are hurting...my buddies just did a $599 round trip from Orlando to Honolulu on united.
We also have a library school that could possibly be convinced to get sucked into such a project and my wife is on the board of the Hawaii Library Consortium.
/brian chee
On 10/5/09 10:06 AM, "M. Brooke Helman" <abesottedphoenix@yahoo.com> wrote:
Salvete!
Sorry, but whether there is a US Koha conference or not, there is zero chance of our organization, and I suspect any other Kansas Koha users, going to KohaCon NZ. Too bad but that's just the way it is.
Jim Minges
Be that as it may, Jim, it's very selfish for US users to not plan around the rest of the world from time to time. The first KohaCon was in Paris. I really wanted to go, but I was unable. It rolled around to US, I was very happy to go. When it rolls around to NZ, I want to go. I have seen Chris bleary eyed from flight twice now, and I don't think American users are making the same efforts international users are in getting to conference. I was delighted at how many French hopped over to see us. What's a big ocean between friends? If we rotate the host continent, then it will be close to someone's backyard eventually. We've done Europe, we've done North America, I'd propose Aus/NZ, then South America, then Asia, then Africa. Yes, it might end up taking a long time for it to be in your backyard, but the point is that it will get there eventually. :D
Why not plan so that the US conference is six months away from the NZ conference. Budgets and wallets might be replenished by then. Even better, since KohaCon has mostly been following a biennial approach, we can plan a US conference for 2011.
Nicole Engard wrote:
As I said on IRC - My concern is that if there is a US conference as well then library admins will not send people to NZ where they might have before.
I share this concern, Nicole.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:18 PM, David Schuster <dschust1@tx.rr.com> wrote:
I wanted to see what type of interest there is in another conference in the US and who would be willing to help/host/committee/present...
There has been lots of discussion about other issues, but thought we should refocus our energy to helping each other.
I know Chris is working on a conference in NZ - KohaCon 2010 anniversary - but many of us I know won't be able to attend. ?I don't want to take any thunder from that though as well...
What are peoples thoughts - concerns...
Some people indicated if there is no other option than NZ maybe their administration would let them go to NZ - I want to hear what people have to say.
If people are amenable, I am willing to organise a conference in 2011 for a US KohaCon that will not conflict with another international KohaCon, should another nation step forward to host an international conference if the community feels like having an annual international conference. Since my new home is in Arlington, I would propose my location be somewhere in the DC Metro area. If someone else is foolish enough to want to take this on, we can either duke it out in the carpark, or preferably submit electronic bids somewhere and throw it up for a vote. I would certainly help organise a "rival" conference should I lose out. I would further suggest application of my moveable international conference to the domestic one. Since we had it in Plano last time, were DC to be worthy of the next US conference, then I would hope someone from the West Coast would step up for the US conference after that. I would like to stress that if the "dirty" French, New Zealanders, or any other international visitors make the journey to a US KohaCon, they will of course be welcome!
Cheers, Brooke
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Ian - I think all future KohaCons should have a bunch of the virtual components you've suggested and I'm up for researching how to make this work and hearing other's suggestions. Nicole On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Walls, Ian <Ian.Walls@med.nyu.edu> wrote:
I agree with suggestions in the other thread that we should hold off a US-based conference for another year or two. While it's a shame that many American users will not get funded to come go to NZ, I imagine administrators will be even less inclined if there was a viable option on the continent within however many months.
Question for our European community members: how expensive is it for you to get to New Zealand? Is North America alone in its perceived travel woes, or are other regions affected the same way?
Regardless, I think we should do as much as we can to give KohaCon 2010 as strong an online presence as possible. Some ideas:
1. Do live webcasts of the sessions. I have some experience with this kind of thing; it's hard, but with the right support staff and technology, it could be done. This would let our remote community members watch in real time (and of course go back to watch later).
2. Coupled with the live webcasts, a systematic way for users to ask questions and participate in the discussion. We could appoint someone in every session to be 'international liaison', and have them monitor IRC, Twitter and perhaps an IM account. They would then be able to proxy the questions to the presenter. Multiple liaisons might be necessary to handle the diversity of languages.
3. For folks with something to say, have them make a quick video or slideshow with audio, and allow them time to present to the conference go-ers. IRC or telephone could be used for realtime two-way discussion.
4. Ask presenters to have their materials ready electronically for publication to the wiki within an hour of their presentation. Once posted, either a conference go-er or a remote community member could garden the page and advertise it to the world.
5. Since a lot of the 'good stuff' at a conference happens after the presentation space goes dark, I'd ask the conference go-ers to tweet/blog as frequently as is practical. Hopefully this can give some of the flavor of being there to those who couldn’t make it.
I am hoping to get funding to attend this conference, and should I get it, I will gladly put in the effort to make the above happen. Even if I don't, I'll do anything I can to help. Does anyone else think this is a worthwhile pursuit, or is the effort required too great for the reward?
Cheers,
Ian Walls Systems Integration Librarian NYU Health Sciences Libraries 550 First Ave., New York, NY 10016 (212) 263-8687
-----Original Message----- From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Nicole Engard Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 7:39 AM To: Brian Chee Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz; M. Brooke Helman Subject: Re: [Koha] US Koha Conference
Not this year, but I'd love to get to come to Hawaii for a KohaCon at some point!! The NZ crew is already starting the planning and I don't think we should even be talking about moving that conference at this point - it's the 10th anniversary of Koha and makes perfect sense that we go back to where it all started (if we can).
Nicole
2009/10/5 Brian Chee <chee@hawaii.edu>:
Would Honolulu be a viable alternative? I used to bring folks from Dunedin and Christchurch over for a Novell users conference in Honolulu every year. I’m fairly sure I could get the East West Center inexpensively and also get a block of graduate dorm rooms super cheap...the last time I put folks up in our grad dorm it was $65/night.
To save even more, we might be able to convince our open source conference to co-locate and share expenses??? Honolulu gets MUCH cheaper in off seasons like Fall and Spring....our high seasons are Winter (snow birds) and Summer (everyone off school)....and right now there are amazing deals on airfares since all the airlines are hurting...my buddies just did a $599 round trip from Orlando to Honolulu on united.
We also have a library school that could possibly be convinced to get sucked into such a project and my wife is on the board of the Hawaii Library Consortium.
/brian chee
On 10/5/09 10:06 AM, "M. Brooke Helman" <abesottedphoenix@yahoo.com> wrote:
Salvete!
Sorry, but whether there is a US Koha conference or not, there is zero chance of our organization, and I suspect any other Kansas Koha users, going to KohaCon NZ. Too bad but that's just the way it is.
Jim Minges
Be that as it may, Jim, it's very selfish for US users to not plan around the rest of the world from time to time. The first KohaCon was in Paris. I really wanted to go, but I was unable. It rolled around to US, I was very happy to go. When it rolls around to NZ, I want to go. I have seen Chris bleary eyed from flight twice now, and I don't think American users are making the same efforts international users are in getting to conference. I was delighted at how many French hopped over to see us. What's a big ocean between friends? If we rotate the host continent, then it will be close to someone's backyard eventually. We've done Europe, we've done North America, I'd propose Aus/NZ, then South America, then Asia, then Africa. Yes, it might end up taking a long time for it to be in your backyard, but the point is that it will get there eventually. :D
Why not plan so that the US conference is six months away from the NZ conference. Budgets and wallets might be replenished by then. Even better, since KohaCon has mostly been following a biennial approach, we can plan a US conference for 2011.
Nicole Engard wrote:
As I said on IRC - My concern is that if there is a US conference as well then library admins will not send people to NZ where they might have before.
I share this concern, Nicole.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:18 PM, David Schuster <dschust1@tx.rr.com> wrote:
I wanted to see what type of interest there is in another conference in the US and who would be willing to help/host/committee/present...
There has been lots of discussion about other issues, but thought we should refocus our energy to helping each other.
I know Chris is working on a conference in NZ - KohaCon 2010 anniversary - but many of us I know won't be able to attend. ?I don't want to take any thunder from that though as well...
What are peoples thoughts - concerns...
Some people indicated if there is no other option than NZ maybe their administration would let them go to NZ - I want to hear what people have to say.
If people are amenable, I am willing to organise a conference in 2011 for a US KohaCon that will not conflict with another international KohaCon, should another nation step forward to host an international conference if the community feels like having an annual international conference. Since my new home is in Arlington, I would propose my location be somewhere in the DC Metro area. If someone else is foolish enough to want to take this on, we can either duke it out in the carpark, or preferably submit electronic bids somewhere and throw it up for a vote. I would certainly help organise a "rival" conference should I lose out. I would further suggest application of my moveable international conference to the domestic one. Since we had it in Plano last time, were DC to be worthy of the next US conference, then I would hope someone from the West Coast would step up for the US conference after that. I would like to stress that if the "dirty" French, New Zealanders, or any other international visitors make the journey to a US KohaCon, they will of course be welcome!
Cheers, Brooke
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Nicole Engard -
Walls, Ian