<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I agree with Chris that getting it right is more important then rushing it, but that said, it should not be pushed back for long. I do not think David Lang's concerns about Koha are unique to him. I assume even if some other entity then a Koha Foundation was to hold community property their still would be a need to some governance structure. I quickly came up with a board makeup I think would be fair. It was off the top of my head and, even if everyone liked the make up (which won't be the case, I'm sure) it needs a lot of work on how it would be organized. For example, this doesn't say how votes would be done, who gets to vote, what if any pre-conditions would be necessary for people to agree, etc. Still it is helpful, for me at least, to see how such a comprised board could be constructed.<br><br>My proposal is that PTFS and HLT each would get an equal number
(3) of slots to appoint people as they see first for three years. The community would also get to vote for slots. These "appointed" slots would decrease by one each year until there was no appointed slots.<br><br><br>Year 1: 3 appointed by PTFS + 3 appointed by HLT + 3 voted this year (2 yr term) = 9 total board members<br><br>Year 2: 2 appointed by PTFS + 2 appointed by HLT + 3 (second year of 2 yr term) + 2 voted this year (2 yr term) = 9 total board members<br><br>Year 3: 1 appointed by PTFS + 1 appointed by HLT + 2 (second year of 2 yr term) + 3 voted this year (2 year term) = 7 total board members<br><br>Year 4: 3 (second year of 2 yr term) + 4 voted this year (2 year term) = 7 total board members<br><br>Year 5: 4 (second year of 2 yr term) + 3 voted this year (2 year term) = 7 total board members<br><br>...<br><br>Anyway, it is just my thoughts as an alternative to PTFS/Liblime's proposal. I'm not invested in it, but maybe
it is helpful. Or maybe not.<br><br>Edward<br><br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 10/15/10, Chris Cormack <i><chris@bigballofwax.co.nz></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz><br>Subject: Re: [Koha] Foundation conversation<br>To: "DeGroff, Amy" <adegroff@ptfs.com><br>Cc: Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz<br>Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 7:32 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1512155717"><p>And that my friends is why you don't start a mail leave the room to check on your 1.5 year old and leave your phone near your 3 year old.</p>
<p>What I was going to say is that I think the discussions are just starting. I'm personally leaning towards either spi, software freedom conservancy or hlt to hold community property.</p>
<p>I think it would be very premature and would disadvantage many people including our vocal david lang to try and conclude anything at kohacon.</p>
<p>The programme is pretty chokka at the moment but I'm sure that some of the talks will prompt some good discussion in the hallway track. Maybe we just let discussions continue for now? When I suggested an irc meeting at kohacon I hadn't counted on the events of the last few weeks, or the fact that it seems that every minute of the conference is already accounted for.</p>
<p>I don't think there is any need to rush this, if we get it wrong it will be a mess, let's get 3.2 out of the way (very very close now) get 3.4 underway and let talks continue. </p>
<p>Chris</p>
<p></p><blockquote type="cite">On 16 Oct 2010 12:14, "DeGroff, Amy" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:adegroff@ptfs.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=adegroff@ptfs.com">adegroff@ptfs.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>It
seems, from reading comments so far, that some are in favor of a foundation and
some are not. Many ideas have been shared to the listserv and our initial
proposal remains on the wiki. <br>
<br>
As a stake holders in this -- LibLime remains interested in
compromise; is it possible that a mutually acceptable set of conditions
can be developed among us all? <br>
<br>
Is discussing the options in person - in 10 days - the most logical next
step? Is talking with us / working on this topic something that interested parties are willing and able to do at KohaCon? <br>
<br>
Amy De Groff<br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:adegroff@ptfs.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=adegroff@ptfs.com">adegroff@ptfs.com</a><p><font color="#500050"><br><br>On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:29 PM, <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:david@lang.hm" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=david@lang.hm">david@lang.hm</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, Nicole Engard wro...</font></p>-- <br><p><font color="#500050">Amy Begg De Groff<br>Product Manager<br>LibLime, a Division of PTFS<br>1-301-654-8088 ext 162<br>adegroff@liblim...</font></p>
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