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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Thanks very much Chris and Marty for sharing -- very
helpul. One our biggest challenges is lack of experience with Linux so Marty it
was good to hear of your success in this regard. Further, we would be importing
existing MARC records and so the main labor costs would most likely be with
installation and setup. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>In the mean time, would agree with Lori if anyone else
has further specifics to offer that would be great as I think this is the
sort of helpful information which would be beneficial to others considering Koha
as an option</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Thanks very much again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Laurie </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=loriayre@gmail.com href="mailto:loriayre@gmail.com">Lori Ayre</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ontariowolf64@yahoo.com
href="mailto:ontariowolf64@yahoo.com">Marty</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=czechbarnes@gmail.com
href="mailto:czechbarnes@gmail.com">Jim and Laurie Barnes</A> ; <A
title=koha@lists.katipo.co.nz href="mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz">koha
koha</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 07, 2010 6:09
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Koha] Cost Analysis
Information</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I'd love to hear this level of detail from other libraries.
I get this question from libraries all the time so it would be to
capture it somewhere. I'd like to post it at Open Source - Open
Libraries in our Q&A section if there are no objections. And I hope
a couple more larger libraries will contribute answers.
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<DIV>Lori<BR>
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<A title=cnighswonger@foundations.edu
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=czechbarnes@gmail.com
href="mailto:czechbarnes@gmail.com">Jim and Laurie Barnes</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
href="mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz">koha@lists.katipo.co.nz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 07, 2010 7:53
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Koha] Cost Analysis
Information</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Here is our experience:<BR><BR>We have several libraries on
campus. Only the main library (just under 8000 items) is on Koha at present,
but all are slated to be moved over the next year or
two.<BR><BR>Hardware/OS:<BR><BR>Two Dual Core Pentium IIIs<BR>1GB
ram<BR>70GB raid 1<BR>Ubuntu Server 9.10<BR><BR>Cost: $0.00 (This server was
taken out of service at a local dentists office during an upgrade and
donated to our school)<BR><BR>We "manually" cataloged all of our books by
harvesting records from various publicly available z3950 servers. Each
record was edited for applicability to our library and we also added data to
some fields to enhance OPAC content.<BR><BR>We used Koha's label module to
generate all of our labeling. In order to gain the functionality we felt was
lacking in this module, we re-wrote the entire module. By and large, the
label creation was the least time-consuming part of
cataloging.<BR><BR>Barcode/spine labels were printed on a Ricoh AP400N
network printer. There is nothing magic about this brand/model. They would
print as well on a $50 Brother or HP or
<your_favorite_brand_goes_here>.<BR><BR>Working with the equivalent of
one full-time cataloger and three part-time catalogers putting in 40+
person-hours per week it took roughly 2.5 years to touch all ~8K items. Keep
in mind that we were also searching out and editing bibs for each item as
well.<BR><BR>I have no idea of what sort of $$ the labor translates into as
some of this was essentially volunteer time.<BR><BR>Our barcode scanner is a
Metrologic MS9590 bought new for $183.00.<BR><BR>We began using the system
for circulation about 3 weeks ago and have happy library staff and
patrons.<BR><BR>Kind Regards,<BR>Chris<BR><BR><BR clear=all>Christopher
Nighswonger<BR>Faculty Member<BR>Network & Systems
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>2010/4/7 Marty <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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<DIV>Seems nobody has answered your question yet, so I'll give it a
shot.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Our library has about 6000 items (mainly books, but also DVD's,
VHS, audiocassette and CD's)</DIV>
<DIV>We are running Koha 3 with Zebra on an older Pentium 4 computer,
I would like it to be a little bit faster, Koha 2.2.9 seemed quite a
bit faster on some tasks. On the other hand, I absolutely love the
very powerful search on the Koha with Zebra.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>We use barcodes, we found a cheap barcode reader, (I can give you
the supplier once I get home, don't remember the name now) and we
print barcodes and spine labels on an older Brother HL-1230 laser
printer. The software we use for the barcodes and spinelabels is
kbarcode (see <A href="http://kbarcode.net"
target=_blank>kbarcode.net</A>) which is Open Source and very
powerful. You can also design & print patron cards with it. I
prefer kbarcode over Koha's barcode system, because it's easier to
bulk print and can do way more than just barcodes (we added
an extra table in the database for kbarcode to use, and
kbarcode can also put information on your label that it queries
from anywhere in the koha mysql database)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As for installation time; depends a bit on your Linux OS
experience. (I did not know anything about Linux when I installed my
first Koha, I have learned a lot ;-) )</DIV>
<DIV>But, if you have a high speed internet connection you could
install everything needed in a few hours, max. </DIV>
<DIV>Koha 3 does not run on Windows I believe, but believe me, almost
anything Windows can do, Linux can do as well or better. (Koha 2.2.9
will run on Windows I think, correct me if I'm wrong guys!)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Where things are going to get slow is if you have to enter
data manually. It all depends on how many items you have of course,
but it helps to have it in some electronic format.</DIV>
<DIV>I managed at the time to create a .csv file from a very old
custom made library program and enter this into Koha.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My costs;</DIV>
<DIV>IBM certified used computer (comes with mouse & keyboard): $
165,- (Canadian $, you probably can find cheaper, don't know where you
guys are located)</DIV>
<DIV>Monitor: Find a free CRT monitor or buy a cheap LCD</DIV>
<DIV>Barcode scanner: I think ours cost about $ 50,- at the time</DIV>
<DIV>Printer: Almost anything black & white will do. Our Brother
Laser is on it's last legs, but it came free. I have to start
hunting for another one.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Of course, a faster computer is always nice, and a 40 GB hard
drive is rather small nowadays, but if you are on a budget you have to
take what you can get.</DIV>
<DIV>There are not really any specific library items needed, unless
you want to use a label printer. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Can't help you with personnel, our library runs on volunteers.
But I can tell you there are always things to do, never knew a library
was so much work when I started.</DIV>
<DIV>Of course, since I am the first person with some library
knowledge I constantly run into things that apparently never bother
other people, like non-fiction being shelved alphabetically by
author! Try to find something... what a nightmare. So, I have to find
Dewey numbers etc.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Anyway, I hope this gives you some idea, you can always go faster
and better than we did.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Marty<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 4/1/10, Jim and Laurie Barnes
<I><<A href="mailto:czechbarnes@gmail.com"
target=_blank>czechbarnes@gmail.com</A>></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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Jim and Laurie Barnes <<A href="mailto:czechbarnes@gmail.com"
target=_blank>czechbarnes@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: [Koha] Cost
Analysis Information<BR>To: <A href="mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz"
target=_blank>koha@lists.katipo.co.nz</A><BR>Received: Thursday,
April 1, 2010, 3:31 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Dear Koha Listserve,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>We are in the process of doing a cost
analysis for installation and self-hosting of Koha and would be
interested in detailed budget information including equipment,
personnel, and maintenance costs for a small private
library. If you have this sort of information and would be
willing to share we would be most grateful. We would be
interested especially in specific equipment needs
and the amount of time needed for installation.
</FONT><FONT face=Calibri>Thanks </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>With Best Regards, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Laurie Barnes</FONT></DIV><BR><BR>
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